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Curtnik88 installs FreeSpace
I'm new here, so will someone point me to a step-by-step guide on how to properly install and run FSO on Windows 8?

 

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Re: Curtnik88 installs FreeSpace
I'm new here, so will someone point me to a step-by-step guide on how to properly install and run FSO on Windows 8?

There isn't one for Windows 8.  There's one for generic Windows, but it involves more steps than simply running the installer.

The installer should run on Windows 8 if you've installed Java; just double-click on it.

 
Re: Curtnik88 installs FreeSpace
Got it. I wound up using the installer, but I'm wondering if I chose the right pathway. I installed it in C:/users/willi_000/Steam/steamapps/common/Freespace 2. What do I do from there?

 

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Re: Curtnik88 installs FreeSpace
There are several threads on the Steam boards which describe what to do in explicit detail, if that's what you want.  Try here or here.

 
Re: Curtnik88 installs FreeSpace
Thank you. I was able to launch FSO, but three things happened: MediaVPs_2014 failed to install, when I launched Inferno, it said my profile was incompatible with the mod, and when I tested a mission in the tech room, I was given an error message saying 32 ship classes failed to load.

 

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Re: Curtnik88 installs FreeSpace
In that case I would recommend asking for help from the various mod makers.  I'm moving your posts to the FSO Support board.

 

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Re: Curtnik88 installs FreeSpace
It would help if you would please post your fs2_open.log file.  Instructions on how to do this can be found in this post.
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<MageKing17> Because the "reason" often turns out to be "nobody noticed it was wrong".
(the very next day)
<MageKing17> this ****ing code did it to me again
<MageKing17> "That doesn't really make sense to me, but I'll assume it was being done for a reason."
<MageKing17> **** ME
<MageKing17> THE REASON IS PEOPLE ARE STUPID
<MageKing17> ESPECIALLY ME

<MageKing17> God damn, I do not understand how this is breaking.
<MageKing17> Everything points to "this should work fine", and yet it's clearly not working.
<MjnMixael> 2 hours later... "God damn, how did this ever work at all?!"
(...)
<MageKing17> so
<MageKing17> more than two hours
<MageKing17> but once again we have reached the inevitable conclusion
<MageKing17> How did this code ever work in the first place!?

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<MageKing17> It was all working perfectly until I actually tried it on an actual mission.

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* z64555 erases "Thursday" and rewrites it in red ink

<MageKing17> TIL the entire homing code is held up by shoestrings and duct tape, basically.

 
Re: Curtnik88 installs FreeSpace
Ok, here's the debug log on my notepad. Towards the end, where the ships and weapons begin showing up, I was at the loading screen for the "untitled" mission in the INFR1 tech room. I went ahead and quit early since I was getting these same error messages, albeit different ships and objects, and the loading progress wasn't even past the first "bar".

[attachment kidnapped by pirates]

 
Re: Curtnik88 installs FreeSpace
Here's another one from when I started the campaign.

[attachment kidnapped by pirates]

 
Re: Curtnik88 installs FreeSpace
MediaVPs_2014 failed to install

What do you mean exactly?

Just in case you mean what I think you mean, MediaVPs 2014 is only compatible with FreeSpace Open 3.7.2 RC4.
Why do you say "as" instead of "because"?

 

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Re: Curtnik88 installs FreeSpace
Err.

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  -mod inf1,mediavpsI can't recall INFR1's requirements and couldn't quickly find anything on the Inferno board, but it may have required the 3.6.10 MediaVPs back in the day. And right now the game tries to find them in the \mediavps\ directory, which you don't have. You can open the mod.ini file in the inf1 directory with a text editor and change that line to say
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  -mod inf1,Mediavps_2014and see what happens.

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Found root pack 'C:\Users\willi_000\Steam\steamapps\common\Freespace 2\Program files, Program files (x86) and the user directories may cause FS2 and FSO to be prone to weirdass problems. If it's not too much trouble, cut and paste your FS2 installation somewhere else, like C:\Games\FreeSpace2\ for example.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

15:41 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
15:53 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client]

18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
11:51 < Kobrar> ...
11:51 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has left #hard-light []

 

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Re: Curtnik88 installs FreeSpace
Program files, Program files (x86) and the user directories may cause FS2 and FSO to be prone to weirdass problems. If it's not too much trouble, cut and paste your FS2 installation somewhere else, like C:\Games\FreeSpace2\ for example.
User directories shouldn't subject to UAC (unless it's for a different user, of course); the problem with them used to be over-long path names, which stopped being a problem when that was bumped after the Steam release.
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schrödinbug (noun) - a bug that manifests itself in running software after a programmer notices that the code should never have worked in the first place.

When you gaze long into BMPMAN, BMPMAN also gazes into you.

"I am one of the best FREDders on Earth" -General Battuta

<Aesaar> literary criticism is vladimir putin

<MageKing17> "There's probably a reason the code is the way it is" is a very dangerous line of thought. :P
<MageKing17> Because the "reason" often turns out to be "nobody noticed it was wrong".
(the very next day)
<MageKing17> this ****ing code did it to me again
<MageKing17> "That doesn't really make sense to me, but I'll assume it was being done for a reason."
<MageKing17> **** ME
<MageKing17> THE REASON IS PEOPLE ARE STUPID
<MageKing17> ESPECIALLY ME

<MageKing17> God damn, I do not understand how this is breaking.
<MageKing17> Everything points to "this should work fine", and yet it's clearly not working.
<MjnMixael> 2 hours later... "God damn, how did this ever work at all?!"
(...)
<MageKing17> so
<MageKing17> more than two hours
<MageKing17> but once again we have reached the inevitable conclusion
<MageKing17> How did this code ever work in the first place!?

<@The_E> Welcome to OpenGL, where standards compliance is optional, and error reporting inconsistent

<MageKing17> It was all working perfectly until I actually tried it on an actual mission.

<IronWorks> I am useful for FSO stuff again. This is a red-letter day!
* z64555 erases "Thursday" and rewrites it in red ink

<MageKing17> TIL the entire homing code is held up by shoestrings and duct tape, basically.

 

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Re: Curtnik88 installs FreeSpace
Oh, right. It was probably causing weird issues even in the XP era when some people installed FSO somewhere in their user directories. I'm just generally allergic to installing things in the user directory, but if FSO works there now, I won't judge anyone.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

15:41 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
15:53 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client]

18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
11:51 < Kobrar> ...
11:51 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has left #hard-light []

 
Re: Curtnik88 installs FreeSpace
I tried running INF1 again. Even managed to get a few missions in, but during the 2nd shivan mission in the campaign the game crashed. Here's my debug file.

[attachment kidnapped by pirates]

 
Re: Curtnik88 installs FreeSpace
Edit mod.ini in inf1 folder

This:
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secondrylist = mediavps;should look like this:
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secondrylist = ;

 

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Re: Curtnik88 installs FreeSpace
INF1 doesn't require MediaVPs?  I thought it required 3.6.8 or somesuch.  (I forget now).

 
Re: Curtnik88 installs FreeSpace
Last time when I installed INFR1 from these links:
http://www.freespacemods.net/download.php?view.95
http://www.freespacemods.net/download.php?view.353
there was no mod.ini in folder and it worked good.

  

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Re: Curtnik88 installs FreeSpace
Yeah, back then you had to manually put in the string -mod infr1,mediavps

Now they have the mod.ini to do that for you.  Still, it is possible they also upgraded inf1 to not depend on mediavps. 

Reading this http://inferno.hard-light.net/R1U/FAQ.htm  -- It seems maybe they made it standalone.  Then it would depend on the edition of INFR1 you have; apparently the SCP version doesn't need MVPs.  :confused: