[karajorma]

Their idiotic policy on Europe is enough for that.

Seriously is there anyone here who wants to try to defend it?

[Phantom Hoover]

In news related to my contention that thanks to UKIP we're dealing with laws designed to look anti-europe which make no sense, the Tories are continuing in their foolish decision to try to scrap the Human Rights Act. Unfortunately it looks like the wheels are already coming off that plan.

It also contravenes the Good Friday Agreement and the Welsh devolution bills. If you needed clearer proof that the Union is falling apart...

[karajorma]

And yet the Tories won't give it up as a bad idea, most likely.

In more amusing news, UKIP seem to be intent on fighting amongst themselves.

[Luis Dias]

Are you telling me that a political party is having a political infighting over the leadership of itself after a terrible election result? Come on. And, lol, as if the Guardian won't spin this in the most terrible way possible for their image.

[Phantom Hoover]

Oh **** off Luis, will you? Yes, UKIP's post-election infighting is pretty funny. So's Scottish Labour's. Would you please stop derailing any commentary on it by making it out to be some sort of meanspirited bias? Farage's farcical non-resignation certainly goes above and beyond the call of humiliation answered by the other losing parties.

[Luis Dias]

Did I touch your nerves, Phantom, or are you just being typically yourself? I'm sorry if my commentary is not to your liking, should I submit it first to you in PMs to get your approval?

To get a very old donor of the party in the mike saying Farage should probably leave and call this a "coup", a "turmoil" and so on is ludicrous. Journalism at its best I guess? Just typical schadenfreude? Every way you want to look at it, it's not serious. And that link proves it, with a reporter implying that Farage is getting drunk in his lunch at a restaurant. I have no personal pride in our own journalists, but I don't think they ever stooped this low.

Farage's 180 is hilarious in itself, of course it is, but nowhere near the territory of our deputy prime minister who, in 2013, resigned "irrevocably" from the government, only to recant in less than a week (and getting the deputy prime minister job at it). So color me "meh" at it. It will cost him a lot of political strength. And it may lead to others, hey, like the Guardian, smell "blood" and get "LIVE COVERAGE" at the TURMOIL, CRISIS, COLLAPSE, APOCALYPSE at UKIP. I have no sympathy for Farage, but I also have no patience for fools and foolish boorish media like this. In fact, I just have disgust.

[karajorma]

Fine. Please take your ranting about the media elsewhere then. The rest of us want to discuss the politics of the UK, not your conspiracy theories about the media.

[Luis Dias]

Media spin is now a conspiracy theory? AHAHAHAH, oh GOD, I'm so out of here.

[karajorma]

Right, now we can get down to discussing the whole thing with Prince Charles secret lobbying letters. Given the strongly anti-science bent of some of those letters, I really do wish he'd take a lesson from his mother and keep it shut when it comes to politics.

[Flipside]

What I loved about those was that the Palace complained that releasing them might affect the Princes' impartiality...

As if the fact he was sending them had no impact on it at all...

[Phantom Hoover]

Media spin is now a conspiracy theory? AHAHAHAH, oh GOD, I'm so out of here.

tell me more about the left-wing bias of the uk media

[Luis Dias]

It's not left wing bias. It's status quo bias. It's the same in America, it's the same everywhere. There are the Murdoch newspapers that got Cameron's back, there are the Guardians and whatnots who have the centre left's back. Hell, even Fox news is derided by the Tea Party people as the "Jeb News".

[Flipside]

The thing is, a Party is like an Employer, their Party policies take priority over the members own personal ones. It's ironic really that a Politician, in some ways, has less 'Freedom of Political Speech' than any other person in the country.

[Phantom Hoover]

meanwhile in the scottish labour headless chicken cluster****, their leader won a vote of no confidence by 3 votes and promptly resigned anyway

[headdie]

lol

[Phantom Hoover]

i've received alarming reports that south thanet may have been an inside job

[rance]

I'm not sure where it was but one guy ran independently and voted for himself as did his family, but the results says he got no votes.

EDIT: The article was clickbait so it's not exactly reliable but still, if it did happen then odd stuff is going on.

[Phantom Hoover]

what was all that about the SNP really being national socialists

[headdie]

given what he is saying I found this bit especially amusing

'Weeding out the lunatics'

[666maslo666]

I wonder what would you call a party that has nationalistic and socialist agenda, but without the extremist parts? Like a party that supports both strong welfare state and strict immigration control, sort of a hybrid of Labour and UKIP? Considering that "national socialist" is a dirty word.