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Offline JSRNerdo

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Do you do anything but game? Ryzen.
If not, 7600k.
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Do you do anything but game? Ryzen.
If not, 7600k.

But Ryzen typically outperforms the i5 chips in gaming workloads.
7700k is what you would want to maximize gaming performance.

 

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For now, Intel retains single core performance.  However, the AM4 platform and the Ryzen CPUs themselves have a lot of optimization to do, whereas with Intel that's already been done.  So in the future, perhaps the Ryzens will overtake the i-series.  Also, Ryzen R5s and eventually R3s coming out, keep an eye on that (R5s have 6core/12thread and 4core/8thread, all unlocked, even lower prices, dunno about R3s yet).

http://www.pcgamer.com/amds-affordable-ryzen-5-cpus-arrive-april-11-starting-at-169/



 
That Linus clickbait. But while I don't really think that "test" is providing accurate info, it still may be a pretty good R5 and R3 price to performance prediction.
Mito [PL] - Today at 8:52 PM
I was supposed to make a short presentation about basics of optical fibers and here I am, listening to Eurobeat while reading about quantum cryptography.

 

Offline JSRNerdo

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Do you do anything but game? Ryzen.
If not, 7600k.

But Ryzen typically outperforms the i5 chips in gaming workloads.
7700k is what you would want to maximize gaming performance.

For the savings on the 7600k compared to the 7700k you can get a beefy CPU cooler and overclock that **** to 5ghz or above. The 7700k has a higher stock frequency but typically gets to the same OC speed. The only real advantage of the I7 is the 4 extra logical cores, which games don't tend to use.
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The Last Stand: A very episodic capship command mini-campaign
Breakthrough: A pretty standard but not really capship command mission

 

Offline Ulala

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Thanks for the info. I'll take a look at the 7600K. Might wait and see what R5 reviews/benchmarks are like, but I'm not sure I want to wait that long.
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If you can't wait it is pretty simple on this point:

You will only game on your rig -> go for the 7700K
You will do other stuff too or like to multitask (that includes streaming your gaming) -> go for the Ryzen 1700


But honestly the early indications look like that the R5 1400 might become a real bang for the buck gaming CPU if it overclocks at least as well as the 1700.
Without overclocking one might even go for the 1600 for the extra two cores.
Habeeb it...

 
There was a wave of videos on YouTube lately, all about Tomb Raider (IIRC) getting a Ryzen optimisation update and gaining about 30% more FPS...

I'd say that when things get a bit more optimised, Ryzen 7 should be performing at least the same as Intel's 7th gen i7 and i5. Oh wait, max clock speeds on a stock cooler without sweat.

Edit: Oh look, Ryzen 5 released and everyone is doing tests! For now, in games R5 = R7... Oh, and you can OC R5 to 4.0GHz!
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Mito [PL] - Today at 8:52 PM
I was supposed to make a short presentation about basics of optical fibers and here I am, listening to Eurobeat while reading about quantum cryptography.

 
If I were to build a new machine right now, in my usual $1000-1500 budget range, it would have a Ryzen CPU. From what I have seen and read, there just isn't a compelling argument for any of the CPUs in Intel's lineup (unless you consider 5% more FPS in certain gaming titles a compelling argument; I don't).

 

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Habeeb it...

 

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From what I can tell, Ryzen R5s are basically the way to go. Once developers have switched to ryzen-friendly compilers (there's a bug in VS 2015 and possibly earlier that causes them to emit code that hits one of ryzens bottlenecks pretty hard), they're going to be pretty much on par with 7k-series Intel chips; it's notable that amd's guidelines on how to get the most out of Ryzen are very much x86 programming best practices.
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Offline JSRNerdo

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Until Paradorks games start using more than 1 core, I'm probably going to stick with my super-overclocked I5 k.
When they do, though... Late-game empire at playable timeframes here I come!
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Inferno: It's the I in Inferno / It's the beam spam delight / Risin' up to a shock jump arrivaaaaaal
Between The Ashes: Look just a really cool and neat thing, OK?
Dimesional Eclipse: High speed anime girlies blowing **** up gets me excited
The Last Stand: A very episodic capship command mini-campaign
Breakthrough: A pretty standard but not really capship command mission

 
On similar logic I can't see AMD ever making inroads into the Dwarf Fortress player market.
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Offline JSRNerdo

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On similar logic I can't see AMD ever making inroads into the Dwarf Fortress player market.

there seems to be a lot of overlap in the esoteric strategy games that only use 1 core market
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Inferno: It's the I in Inferno / It's the beam spam delight / Risin' up to a shock jump arrivaaaaaal
Between The Ashes: Look just a really cool and neat thing, OK?
Dimesional Eclipse: High speed anime girlies blowing **** up gets me excited
The Last Stand: A very episodic capship command mini-campaign
Breakthrough: A pretty standard but not really capship command mission

 
I am wondering - all these benchmarks are fine and all - but has anyone actually benchmarked these CPUs on Linux? :nervous:
Mito [PL] - Today at 8:52 PM
I was supposed to make a short presentation about basics of optical fibers and here I am, listening to Eurobeat while reading about quantum cryptography.

 
 
Well, I am not so familiar with these methods, however this still looks very impressive! :yes:
Mito [PL] - Today at 8:52 PM
I was supposed to make a short presentation about basics of optical fibers and here I am, listening to Eurobeat while reading about quantum cryptography.