[AdmiralRalwood]

http://imgur.com/a/lgu8K

That is a damned beautiful opening video.

[jr2]

Multi is not going to happen. FSO is a single-player project now. We don't have the resources to fix it or the playerbase to make it worthwhile.

I thought karajorma had it on the backburner?

Multi has been "on the backburner" for, like, a decade (if not longer). Without a coder that knows netcode, someone would have to basically learn how it works from scratch to be able to perform even marginal improvements, and nobody has that kind of time for something that our active playerbase does not use (of course, improved netcode would increase our potential playerbase significantly... but the people who currently use FSO obviously don't use it for multiplayer).

...and the ultimate goal of this topic was to increase our playerbase, not just make things better for the current playerbase (although it is also that).  However, still no netcode guru, so moot point.

[jr2]

... why are the URLs split in that video?  Currently it has a hypertext link to "http://www" and then " . fsoinstaller . com"

[Spoon]

It's some kind of anti spam protection or something, it keeps breaking up the link after I edit it. Yet oddly enough the mixtape link doesn't suffer that fate, the links also seem unbroken in the public profile

[xenocartographer]

I don't think that's supposed to happen; file a support ticket to get a definitive answer.



Unrelated: "Show unread posts" has become actually useful since the gendisc blacklist. Much appreciated.

[deathspeed]

Unrelated: "Show unread posts" has become actually useful since the gendisc blacklist. Much appreciated.

I hate that change.  (I know; strong language for me!)  I think it killed gendisc, which may have been the intent,  since there have been very few new posts there since the switch.  I was one of the apparent few who enjoyed that board, but it's a PITA now to have to manually go to the board and look for stuff I haven't already seen. 

What really irritates me i guess is that there already was a way for people to opt out of seeing it on the "unread posts" link, but now the option to see it for those of us who liked it has been taken away.  Can't it be added back, maybe defaulted to "don't show", so those of us who like it can choose to turn it back on?



Edit: toned down 2nd paragraph, originally written before i had enough coffee to be civilized

[Mongoose]

I must be the only person who opens every subfolder I'm reading in like 20 different tabs instead of using that link.

[karajorma]

I even do that on my phone!

[deathspeed]

I even do that on my phone!

I don't think I've ever even tried getting to HLP on my phone. 

[Colonol Dekker]

I've been hard lighting on my phone for ten years this year.

[mjn.mixael]

Ya'll should make sure to give @HardLightPro a follow on Twitter. I've been posting regularly. Re-tweet the stuff you find interesting and help get the word out!

[Colonol Dekker]

Shared on the facebook.  (at least one of them )

[niffiwan]

I'm going to have to create a twitter account... 

[jr2]

Ya'll should make sure to give @HardLightPro a follow on Twitter. I've been posting regularly. Re-tweet the stuff you find interesting and help get the word out!

Went to go follow, apparently already did (yeah I don't use Twitter much lol).

[Blue Lion]

Do we know who runs the facebook page for HLP, not the group? I'd like to get in contact with someone who runs the page (which is basically empty)

[Colonol Dekker]

Message sent, will find out for you.

[chief1983]

Multi is not going to happen. FSO is a single-player project now. We don't have the resources to fix it or the playerbase to make it worthwhile.

I thought karajorma had it on the backburner?

Multi has been "on the backburner" for, like, a decade (if not longer). Without a coder that knows netcode, someone would have to basically learn how it works from scratch to be able to perform even marginal improvements, and nobody has that kind of time for something that our active playerbase does not use (of course, improved netcode would increase our potential playerbase significantly... but the people who currently use FSO obviously don't use it for multiplayer).

...and the ultimate goal of this topic was to increase our playerbase, not just make things better for the current playerbase (although it is also that).  However, still no netcode guru, so moot point.

Are people just conceding that multiplayer is completely dead?  That's sad.  I now have four VPS servers running, currently still for testing, but which could be running full time release standalones of any combination of mods.  That's up to 48 multiplayer slots running simultaneously without anyone having to forward ports.  Probably the best workaround we have for the confusing NAT setup until someone figures out punch-thru.  Also jg18 plans on running a series of experiments on the netcode to see if we can find some gains, and has even had users volunteering to help him out yet.  So there is still some interest, and sometimes a small, but dedicated grass roots team is all you need to make things happen.  I have personally been trying to ensure the WebUI-based standalones remain stable for a couple years now I think, because I think that a few dedicated hosting machines are our best bet for any multiplayer viability in the near term.  I'm really happy with how stable they're running now and think that I could set up a couple retail, a MediaVPs, and maybe another mod once 3.8 is released.

[Spoon]

Are people just conceding that multiplayer is completely dead? 

Uuuuh, it has been completely dead for years now.

That's sad.

It's called looking at reality.

[karajorma]

It's also rather premature. Multi isn't very healthy but the quickest way to actually kill it is to discourage the coders who want to work on it.

[jg18]

Seemed apropos.

EDIT: I may be kidding myself, but I do think that multi is as Miracle Max says, slightly alive. We do get people from time to time who are interested in multi, and if Internet multi were playable -- or even fun! -- maybe it'd spark something.