Author Topic: [RE-RELEASE] What If: Another Great War  (Read 1125 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Novachen

  • 29
  • The one and only capella supernova
    • Twitter
[RE-RELEASE] What If: Another Great War
As it was suggested, that i should create a forum topic aswell.

Nearly one whole year after the release of my last upgrade, which was Storm Front Saga, and at least a half of the year, where i got only very slow through this one, i can finally present a new Nova Upgrade release. For this modification i had to correct and re-create some of the tables. The actual missions had only minor bugs, apart from some compatibility issues due the age of this campaign.
I orginally planned to create a standalone modification, but after the file size exploded i decided against this and created this one as a mod for an existing modification.


What If: Another Great War

About this campaign:
To explain it short: What If: Another Great War is simply a remake of FreeSpace: The Great War, which was released by SF-Junky in 2008.
Anyone who is familiar with the FreeSpace series know about the several continuity issues between both games. What If not only try to address these issues and to reimagine FreeSpace: The Great War as the universe was shown in FreeSpace 2, it also considers the FreeSpace Reference Bible. Last but not least What If tries to explain the events of the Great War in a much more structured and coherent way.

At the same time What If: Another Great War works as a prequel to the already upgraded Storm Front Saga. So the events that take place in What If are the Great War how it happened in the Storm Front universe.
The original campaign was released as a modification for the FreeSpace Port 3.0.4 and worked with FSO 3.6.10 builds and the 3.6.10 MediaVPs.
This upgrade release is a modification for Nova Upgrade: FreeSpace Port 2.0.7 which runs itself on FreeSpace Port 3.5, MediaVPs 3.8.2 and FSO 19.0.0.



What is this about?
A fourteen year war between the Terrans and Vasudans leads into something far more sinister.

Sounds familiar? Then you are wrong. Because this time things are different... in a FreeSpace 2 way. This is the story of The Great War from the Storm Front Universe.

What is in it?
• The What If: Another Great War singleplayer campaign with 35 missions.
• Four new ships.
• Two new weapons.

What is different or new?
• Compatibility to current Builds and MediaVPs.
• Through Nova Upgrade: FreeSpace Port this mod uses all its enhancements like the 1024x768 HUDs for all three species, APNG animations, remastered cutscenes and all upgraded models, that are not present in current FSPort. Aswell Axem's message box and Admiral MS' screencam are included by default.
• Mission bugfixes & small enhancements.
• Obtainable medals! Gotta catch 'em all!
• Proper usage of the callsign and alternative name features.
• Fixed TTS-Support.





Requirements:
FSOpen 3.8.1 from 29th June 2019 (or newer)
wxlauncher 0.12.0 RC2 (or newer)
MediaVPs 3.8.X in a "MediaVPs_38X" folder. (Folder with mod.ini)
These components are also part of my FreeSpace 2 Open All-in-One Installer.
FreeSpace Port 3.5 with FSPort MediaVPs 2014
Nova Upgrade: FreeSpace Port 2.0.7
These components are also part of my Nova Upgrade: FreeSpace Port All-in-One Installer 2.0.7




Download:
Automatic:


Semi-Automatic:
Nova Upgrade All-in-One Installer 10-2019 (1,05 GB)

Manual:
What If: Another Great War (2.2.4-Nova) (39.36 MB) - FSFiles Mirror
OPTIONAL:
This is only necessary if you have installed the Extended Remastered Cutscene in Nova Upgrade: FreeSpace Port. This file ensures, that the correct cutscene is played.
What If: Another Great War: Movies (112,34 MB) - FSFiles Mirror

Installation
Automatic:
In Knossos you only have to install the recommended packages of "What If: Another Great War" as they install every other needed dependency with it. Even i strongly recommend to install the APNG packages aswell. After the installation, you can click on "Play".
Semi-Automatic:
In the Nova Upgrade All-in-One Installer, you only have to select your FreeSpace2 folder and then you can select the What If: Another Great War components for installation.
Be advised, that What If: Another Great War needs an already installed Nova Upgrade: FreeSpace Port.
I strongly recommend a Nova Upgrade: FreeSpace Port installation with all available components for the impression of a true FreeSpace remake.
If you want, you can also install a preconfigured wxLauncher profile. With this, you only have to set your Freespace 2 folder, the most current build and your hardware settings. All mod settings and recommended flags are already configured with this.

Now you only have to click on "Play".
Manual:
Extract the archives into your FreeSpace2 folder, select "Nova Upgrade: What If: Another Great War" as your current mod in the mod tab of wxlauncher and click on "Play".

Credits:
SF-Junky for the original campaign.
tcrayford for the english spellchecking.
Inferno: Alliance for the GVD Bastet.
Inferno: Nostos for the GTI Lycaon.
Terran-Vasudan War Project for the TCr Constellation.
« Last Edit: October 27, 2019, 10:44:48 am by Novachen »
Female FreeSpace 2 pilot since 1999.
Global moderator in the German FreeSpace Galaxy Forum.

Responsible for the german translation project FreiRaum - FreeSpace auf Deutsch.
Also responsible for the Nova Upgrade Project, which upgrades and fix older campaigns to make them play- and solveable again with current builds and MediaVPs.

Release List:
German Translations:
Awakenings, Between the Ashes 1, Deneb III, FreeSpace 2 (in development), FreeSpace Port, Silent Threat: Reborn & The Destiny of Peace

Nova Upgrades:
A Walk in the Sun, Into the Halls of Valhalla, Luyten Civil War, Renegade Resurgence, Revenge: Final Conflict (in development), Rogues!, Shadow Genesis (de-facto), Storm Front Saga, The Deuterium Connection, Venice Mirror & What If: Another Great War

 
Re: [RE-RELEASE] What If: Another Great War
Ooooooooh.  Thanks Novachen! It's been ages since I played through the FS1 campaign in any form, and this might be just the ticket.

 
Re: [RE-RELEASE] What If: Another Great War
 :yes:

BTW did you change anything about the Bastet? I have a resmoothed version of it, and also a more PVN/Great War era version from INFA that I could hand to you (though I'd require a permission for the latter as it is still INF-private despite its low polyness).

 

Offline Novachen

  • 29
  • The one and only capella supernova
    • Twitter
Re: [RE-RELEASE] What If: Another Great War
:yes:

BTW did you change anything about the Bastet? I have a resmoothed version of it, and also a more PVN/Great War era version from INFA that I could hand to you (though I'd require a permission for the latter as it is still INF-private despite its low polyness).

Unfortunately not. It is the retaily brick one that is also used in Inferno: Classic, because no other one was released.
And in my search through ship lists i did not find any newer vasudan craft, that looks similar to it.

The same goes to the Constellation, even it looks much better as TWVP was much more recent.
« Last Edit: October 02, 2019, 08:38:00 pm by Novachen »
Female FreeSpace 2 pilot since 1999.
Global moderator in the German FreeSpace Galaxy Forum.

Responsible for the german translation project FreiRaum - FreeSpace auf Deutsch.
Also responsible for the Nova Upgrade Project, which upgrades and fix older campaigns to make them play- and solveable again with current builds and MediaVPs.

Release List:
German Translations:
Awakenings, Between the Ashes 1, Deneb III, FreeSpace 2 (in development), FreeSpace Port, Silent Threat: Reborn & The Destiny of Peace

Nova Upgrades:
A Walk in the Sun, Into the Halls of Valhalla, Luyten Civil War, Renegade Resurgence, Revenge: Final Conflict (in development), Rogues!, Shadow Genesis (de-facto), Storm Front Saga, The Deuterium Connection, Venice Mirror & What If: Another Great War

 
Re: [RE-RELEASE] What If: Another Great War

 

Offline Novachen

  • 29
  • The one and only capella supernova
    • Twitter
Re: [RE-RELEASE] What If: Another Great War
This bastet: http://inferno.hard-light.net/SOL/tech4.html

Well, i am interested in any Bastet that looks better than the one i have  :D

And i think a PVN/Great War Bastet would fit fine in a Great War campaign.
Female FreeSpace 2 pilot since 1999.
Global moderator in the German FreeSpace Galaxy Forum.

Responsible for the german translation project FreiRaum - FreeSpace auf Deutsch.
Also responsible for the Nova Upgrade Project, which upgrades and fix older campaigns to make them play- and solveable again with current builds and MediaVPs.

Release List:
German Translations:
Awakenings, Between the Ashes 1, Deneb III, FreeSpace 2 (in development), FreeSpace Port, Silent Threat: Reborn & The Destiny of Peace

Nova Upgrades:
A Walk in the Sun, Into the Halls of Valhalla, Luyten Civil War, Renegade Resurgence, Revenge: Final Conflict (in development), Rogues!, Shadow Genesis (de-facto), Storm Front Saga, The Deuterium Connection, Venice Mirror & What If: Another Great War

 
Re: [RE-RELEASE] What If: Another Great War
OK, I asked for permission. :)

 

Offline Nyctaeus

  • Betrayal is his middle name
  • 211
  • Your local priest of cheeki breeki!
    • Minecraft
    • Exile
Re: [RE-RELEASE] What If: Another Great War
And in my search through ship lists i did not find any vasudan craft, that looks similar to it.
Fortunately you are wrong :]
Exile | Shadow Genesis | DA Profile | P3D Profile

Proud owner of NyctiShipyards. Remember - Nyx will fix it!

All of my assets including models, textures, skyboxes, effects may be used under standard CC BY-NC 4.0 license.

 
Re: [RE-RELEASE] What If: Another Great War
INFT0013 is some damage/destroyed tile.

 
Re: [RE-RELEASE] What If: Another Great War
The Constellation was replaced with a new model in TVWP, wasn't it? When I look it up on the wiki I'm only seeing this ( https://wiki.hard-light.net/index.php/TCa_Constellation ), which hopefully isn't part of this campaign.

 

Offline Novachen

  • 29
  • The one and only capella supernova
    • Twitter
Re: [RE-RELEASE] What If: Another Great War
And in my search through ship lists i did not find any vasudan craft, that looks similar to it.
Fortunately you are wrong :]

Well... i never heard of this ship :( And the screenshots are not working to see it.

And the only reliable bigger ship list with pictures i have is the Hard Light wiki. :nervous:
And as a last resort i simple asked in the Discord if there is a newer Bastet or atleast a model that looks very similar to that. "Nope" was the answer back then.
So i kept it.

The Constellation was replaced with a new model in TVWP, wasn't it? When I look it up on the wiki I'm only seeing this ( https://wiki.hard-light.net/index.php/TCa_Constellation ), which hopefully isn't part of this campaign.

Was it? Then it has a total different name, now. What make it even harder to find any newer versions of a ship.
But to destroy your Hope. Yes, the TCa Constellation is used. But actually it does not look too shabby... at least in comparsion to the Bastet  :lol:
« Last Edit: October 02, 2019, 09:30:36 pm by Novachen »
Female FreeSpace 2 pilot since 1999.
Global moderator in the German FreeSpace Galaxy Forum.

Responsible for the german translation project FreiRaum - FreeSpace auf Deutsch.
Also responsible for the Nova Upgrade Project, which upgrades and fix older campaigns to make them play- and solveable again with current builds and MediaVPs.

Release List:
German Translations:
Awakenings, Between the Ashes 1, Deneb III, FreeSpace 2 (in development), FreeSpace Port, Silent Threat: Reborn & The Destiny of Peace

Nova Upgrades:
A Walk in the Sun, Into the Halls of Valhalla, Luyten Civil War, Renegade Resurgence, Revenge: Final Conflict (in development), Rogues!, Shadow Genesis (de-facto), Storm Front Saga, The Deuterium Connection, Venice Mirror & What If: Another Great War

 
Re: [RE-RELEASE] What If: Another Great War
The Atum is surely a better design, not to speak of the model quality.

As for the Constellation... get rid of it. :D There is a ship called Sagittarius, and another one called Hestia that could both work as replacement.

 
Re: [RE-RELEASE] What If: Another Great War
I just wanna say this was amazing. The addition of flak turrets and Shivan beam weapons makes the FS1 complete in my mind and it now really does have the feeling of the end times. Since with beam weapons the Shivans as whole not just because of the Lucifer, seem unstoppable. Also the added cap ships make up for massive deficiency in FS1 in general, a lack of cap ships for bother V and T.

The only real addition I can image to make it complete is maybe adding Frigates like 'Blue Planets' UEFg Karuna. At least in the beginning to escort convoys and all carrier types, from the Orion to the others you added. Giving the feel that instead of lone ships, both Terrans and Vasudans have real stellar navies, with real fleets and battle groups. I suppose you could give a Frigate for the Vasudans too, but since we don't seem them much its not very necessary. But the best part for you the modder is that as the campaign goes on the missions start having less and less frigate/escorts. Until you can just say that the war is going so badly and so many frigates/escorts have been lost that there is simply not enough. So Command starts deploying all the ones they have left in places that absolutely needs them. So that means carrier groups like Bastion or the Galatia have to go it alone, because there is simply no one left to reinforce them.

It also adds to the feel that the Great War is an apocalyptic conflict like it is described in FS2. Since you can have FS1 missions start with these big powerful fleets of Terran capital ships in a grand chess match against the Vasudans. But as the Shivan invasion goes on and on, there is no more great fleets or battle groups. Only desperate missions with surviving capital ships fighting a war that appears unwinnable.

Well that was my mad ramblings, still great mod and look forward to see you would do with FS2 campaign.

 

Offline Novachen

  • 29
  • The one and only capella supernova
    • Twitter
Re: [RE-RELEASE] What If: Another Great War
Thank you very much for your feedback. I appreciate it, as the most other comments are only about models and not the campaign ;)
I am against it to introduce whole new ship classes that were not used in FreeSpace 2 or Storm Front respectively. Not to speak of, that this would change the original campaign way too much  :nervous:
As the Iceni was the only terran frigate that is used during Storm Front i actually think, that the Iceni class is only the beginning of GT(V)A's frigate classes.

As SF-Junky is still around on this forum sometimes, i would never say, that it is impossible that a "What If: FreeSpace 2" can happen. Even i have no idea how different the events of Freespace 2 are in the Storm Front universe.



There was an update for this campaign. Current version is 2.2.3-Nova, now. The main change is the inclusion of the newer Bastet model that was posted earlier.
Of course there were also some other bugfixes and additions that were mentioned on Discord.
Be advised, that the Semi-Automatic Installation method now contains only an outdated version with 2.2.2-Nova. The next Nova Upgrade All-in-One Installer will be released at the beginning of November 2019. Until then you can use the manual download to update the existing installation.

Changelog:
2.2.2-Nova -> 2.2.3-Nova
• Replaced the Bastet model which was based upon Inferno: Classic with a Bastet, that is based upon the previously unreleased better model from Inferno: Alliance.
• There was a bug in "Avenging Angel" that could make this mission unsolveable under specific conditions.
• A recommendation was added to "Hit and Run".
• In "La Ruota della Fortuna" one message got its right sender and another message was changed. Also there are some new events to make the Eva more dangerous. Aswell there were some coordinates changes for Eva and Malthusa due to the new and so bigger Bastet.
• Changed credits in "Endgame".
« Last Edit: October 09, 2019, 04:42:51 am by Novachen »
Female FreeSpace 2 pilot since 1999.
Global moderator in the German FreeSpace Galaxy Forum.

Responsible for the german translation project FreiRaum - FreeSpace auf Deutsch.
Also responsible for the Nova Upgrade Project, which upgrades and fix older campaigns to make them play- and solveable again with current builds and MediaVPs.

Release List:
German Translations:
Awakenings, Between the Ashes 1, Deneb III, FreeSpace 2 (in development), FreeSpace Port, Silent Threat: Reborn & The Destiny of Peace

Nova Upgrades:
A Walk in the Sun, Into the Halls of Valhalla, Luyten Civil War, Renegade Resurgence, Revenge: Final Conflict (in development), Rogues!, Shadow Genesis (de-facto), Storm Front Saga, The Deuterium Connection, Venice Mirror & What If: Another Great War

 
Re: [RE-RELEASE] What If: Another Great War
I believe one of biggest reasons for a lack of cap ships in FS1 and FS2, was limitations of the engine and what people's PC's could run in the late 90's.

...

Meaning, no turning back now.

You opened the door, you got us used to the idea of more than 4 ships in both the T and V Navy.

Now, now you must pay for your sins and flesh out their stellar Navies.

For once down the path of better immersion, forever will it dominate your destiny.

 

Offline Novachen

  • 29
  • The one and only capella supernova
    • Twitter
Re: [RE-RELEASE] What If: Another Great War
2.2.3-Nova was a somewhat of sloppy update.

The new model of the Bastet had another name for the dock point which makes "Hit and Run" not possible as a ship is required to dock with it.
Also i simply overlooked another SEXP that caused the same error as another one. So the bug in "Avenging Angel" was only half fixed in 2.2.3... now it should work finally :).
But the original intended way in this mission was reinitiated as a requirement for the medal in this mission nevertheless :).

New additions are two updated Models that got a reskin.

Changelog:
Quote
Version 2.2.4-Nova
• A new textured GTCr Akula.
• A new textured GTI Lycaon by Nyctaeus.
• There was another bug in "Avenging Angel" that could make this mission unsolveable under specific conditions. Because i fixed them now, there is an additional debriefing stage aswell changed requirements for the Medal in this mission, which are intended to be closer to the original design of this mission.
• A spelling fix in "Hit and Run".
• Fixed the invalid docking point order in "Hit and Run" for the Amphion.

Currently this update is only available as a manual install because of three or maybe four reasons:
The Semi-Automatic Installer is planned to be updated only at a start of a month. So next week.
Knossos is currently not working for me, except for Non-FS2 stuff and it crashes if i want to "reinstall" FS2.
But also because i want to reorganize Nova Upgrade: FreeSpace Port and FreiRaum: FreeSpace Port into two seperate mods on Knossos like i did it with manual/semi, during the next couple of days. That would mean, that WhatIf will also get different dependencies. Reason for that is simple, it seems to cause big confusion, what is needed to be installed if someone want to play it only in english.
Also it seems, that Knossos does not keep the same loading order as i had it on the developer's end aswell i had with wxlauncher due to the different folders. So i have to change some file names exclusively for Knossos anyway.

As long as i get able to run it with FS2 again, of course.

But atleast i think about it, to bring my upgrades also to FSOInstaller, which would be also another installation method. The more alternatives, the better.
« Last Edit: October 22, 2019, 02:30:03 pm by Novachen »
Female FreeSpace 2 pilot since 1999.
Global moderator in the German FreeSpace Galaxy Forum.

Responsible for the german translation project FreiRaum - FreeSpace auf Deutsch.
Also responsible for the Nova Upgrade Project, which upgrades and fix older campaigns to make them play- and solveable again with current builds and MediaVPs.

Release List:
German Translations:
Awakenings, Between the Ashes 1, Deneb III, FreeSpace 2 (in development), FreeSpace Port, Silent Threat: Reborn & The Destiny of Peace

Nova Upgrades:
A Walk in the Sun, Into the Halls of Valhalla, Luyten Civil War, Renegade Resurgence, Revenge: Final Conflict (in development), Rogues!, Shadow Genesis (de-facto), Storm Front Saga, The Deuterium Connection, Venice Mirror & What If: Another Great War

 

Offline SF-Junky

  • 29
  • Bread can mold, what can you do?
Re: [RE-RELEASE] What If: Another Great War
What a funny coincidence. I just got my ass up to give this and all my campaigns another major facelift, including speed adjustments for fighters and bombers. Actually, I started this already last year but then lost pace again.

And there is even the adacious plan to ever finish Storm Front: Episode III. :nervous:

Novachen, would you be in to help me with that?

 

Offline Novachen

  • 29
  • The one and only capella supernova
    • Twitter
Re: [RE-RELEASE] What If: Another Great War
Novachen, would you be in to help me with that?

Due to the upgrade i feel myself responsible for What If and Storm Front too now.

And even i still have many other projects on my to-do list, i always try to have time for the already released projects if there is something the matter :).

So, sure. I will try to help if this is within my capabilities.
« Last Edit: October 27, 2019, 09:22:52 am by Novachen »
Female FreeSpace 2 pilot since 1999.
Global moderator in the German FreeSpace Galaxy Forum.

Responsible for the german translation project FreiRaum - FreeSpace auf Deutsch.
Also responsible for the Nova Upgrade Project, which upgrades and fix older campaigns to make them play- and solveable again with current builds and MediaVPs.

Release List:
German Translations:
Awakenings, Between the Ashes 1, Deneb III, FreeSpace 2 (in development), FreeSpace Port, Silent Threat: Reborn & The Destiny of Peace

Nova Upgrades:
A Walk in the Sun, Into the Halls of Valhalla, Luyten Civil War, Renegade Resurgence, Revenge: Final Conflict (in development), Rogues!, Shadow Genesis (de-facto), Storm Front Saga, The Deuterium Connection, Venice Mirror & What If: Another Great War

  

Offline AdDur

  • 25
Re: [RE-RELEASE] What If: Another Great War
"The file you are trying to view (What If: Another Great War (2.2.4-Nova) - WhatIf-2.2.4-Nova.7z) uploaded by Novachen has been deleted and is no longer available."

Any chance to bring manual download back?