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Re: TBP 3.5 Work in Progress (Split from Star Fury Pilot Unofficial Patch 2.0 released!)
@wesp5:

Since its now on Knossos, it is pretty easy to just add them as new mod with FSO & TBP dependency. Knossos also takes care of the .vp packing upon upload if you select that option.
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Re: TBP 3.5 Work in Progress (Split from Star Fury Pilot Unofficial Patch 2.0 released!)
Since its now on Knossos, it is pretty easy to just add them as new mod with FSO & TBP dependency. Knossos also takes care of the .vp packing upon upload if you select that option.

Cool! But I think we should decide now then to either move everything inside the main game or use this Knossos feature to keep the campaigns seperate. Also I just mailed Blues News and asked to announce the release!

 

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Re: TBP 3.5 Work in Progress (Split from Star Fury Pilot Unofficial Patch 2.0 released!)
I wouldn't release them as separate mods unless Knossos gets the filter function working sometime soon. They'll just get lost in the mix that way.
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Re: TBP 3.5 Work in Progress (Split from Star Fury Pilot Unofficial Patch 2.0 released!)
I get a schockwave error in the Achen Flight School if 3D shockwaves are enabled: Unable to open neither 3D nor 2D default shockwaves!! File: shockwave.cpp, Line 531. After debugging it the missions starts...
« Last Edit: September 30, 2019, 06:40:57 am by wesp5 »

 

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Re: TBP 3.5 Work in Progress (Split from Star Fury Pilot Unofficial Patch 2.0 released!)
You should have everything TBP in a folder called TBP. I have no idea why you'd have files anywhere else. Are you sure Knossos put those files there?
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Re: TBP 3.5 Work in Progress (Split from Star Fury Pilot Unofficial Patch 2.0 released!)
You should have everything TBP in a folder called TBP. I have no idea why you'd have files anywhere else. Are you sure Knossos put those files there?

I figured that out and removed the error report. I had a bad vp in the main directory which caused the issues, the file structure itself was fine! So how can I build correct vp files from my campaigns or should I upload them for you to do it?

 

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Re: TBP 3.5 Work in Progress (Split from Star Fury Pilot Unofficial Patch 2.0 released!)
If you've done things correctly Knossos will build the VP itself. Just commit the files in SVN and I can sort them out if need be.

I'm going to be away for a week starting tomorrow though and I don't know if I'll be able to get my travel PC to download Knossos and TBP easily.
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Re: TBP 3.5 Work in Progress (Split from Star Fury Pilot Unofficial Patch 2.0 released!)
If you've done things correctly Knossos will build the VP itself. Just commit the files in SVN and I can sort them out if need be.

I think I commited them a long time ago already in SVN, but now that 3.6.0 is out, need I switch SVN to work with that?

 

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Re: TBP 3.5 Work in Progress (Split from Star Fury Pilot Unofficial Patch 2.0 released!)
Nothing in that extra folder is going to appear in our Knossos releases. If they're already in SVN we just need to have a quick run through to see if they work and then bump the release version.
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Re: TBP 3.5 Work in Progress (Split from Star Fury Pilot Unofficial Patch 2.0 released!)
So Knossos-TBP is supposed to be shipped without the FRED documentation and the movies? I'm wondering because they weren't in the other files, so they'd be missing.

 

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Re: TBP 3.5 Work in Progress (Split from Star Fury Pilot Unofficial Patch 2.0 released!)
So Knossos-TBP is supposed to be shipped without the FRED documentation and the movies?

No. On my system they are in the TBP-3.6.0/data/ folder and work just fine!

 

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Re: TBP 3.5 Work in Progress (Split from Star Fury Pilot Unofficial Patch 2.0 released!)
If they're already in SVN we just need to have a quick run through to see if they work and then bump the release version.

This seems like a plan! I tested them with 3.5.1 and I will release them externally in my patch today so maybe we can get some outside feedback as well...

 
Re: TBP 3.5 Work in Progress (Split from Star Fury Pilot Unofficial Patch 2.0 released!)
So Knossos-TBP is supposed to be shipped without the FRED documentation and the movies?

No. On my system they are in the TBP-3.6.0/data/ folder and work just fine!

Good to hear. :) I just thought I better report it as it seemed kinda unusual.

 

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Re: TBP 3.5 Work in Progress (Split from Star Fury Pilot Unofficial Patch 2.0 released!)
This seems like a plan! I tested them with 3.5.1 and I will release them externally in my patch today so maybe we can get some outside feedback as well...
What do you mean release them in your patch?  Your old way of releasing content very likely doesn't work anymore.
[6:23 PM] PIe: why do I have the feeling that I shouldn't be able to give orders to 22nd armored hq
[6:24 PM] Axem: 22nd armored hq, i order you to get me a cup of coffee
[6:24 PM] PIe: and donuts
[6:24 PM] PIe: BECAUSE THIS IS THE GTVA POLICE
[6:25 PM] Axem: :O
[6:25 PM] Axem: am i under arrest
[6:26 PM] [`_`]/: no, just please step out of the myrmidon
[6:26 PM] [`_`]/: you have so much to fred for

[9:50 PM] Sottises: wait did you do vassago's verge?
[9:50 PM] Sottises: .. dirge?
[9:50 PM] Axem: yes
[9:50 PM] Sottises: ohh
[9:50 PM] Sottises: well I have that and JAD too
[9:50 PM] Axem: :)
[9:50 PM] Sottises: what a contrast of themes lmao
[9:50 PM] Axem: isnt it
[9:51 PM] Axem: super grimdark thriller about unknowable alien intelligence and over the top colorful action about friendship
[9:51 PM] PIe: jad is grimdark???
[9:51 PM] Axem: :skull:

 

Offline wesp5

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Re: TBP 3.5 Work in Progress (Split from Star Fury Pilot Unofficial Patch 2.0 released!)
This seems like a plan! I tested them with 3.5.1 and I will release them externally in my patch today so maybe we can get some outside feedback as well...
What do you mean release them in your patch?  Your old way of releasing content very likely doesn't work anymore.

I tested it and it still works. I just added another option so people can decide whether they want to use it with classic TBP 3.4b or the Knossos version :)!

 

Offline PIe

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Re: TBP 3.5 Work in Progress (Split from Star Fury Pilot Unofficial Patch 2.0 released!)
I'm not trying to insult you but based on what you've posted, I'm not sure you really understand how Knossos works.  There's nothing wrong with that; it is very different from how FSO used to be distributed.
First of all, we don't want people installing TBP 3.4b.  It's really difficult to get working and there's no reason to use it over the version now available on Knossos.  That was the whole point of this rerelease.
Second, we don't want people messing with TBP as installed from Knossos.  Knossos makes your patch obsolete and someone installing your patch probably would find it harder to play your content.  The best thing to do is to add your fixes to the SVN and let Karajorma or I integrate it into the Knossos release.
In short, all distribution of TBP content should be done through Knossos.
[6:23 PM] PIe: why do I have the feeling that I shouldn't be able to give orders to 22nd armored hq
[6:24 PM] Axem: 22nd armored hq, i order you to get me a cup of coffee
[6:24 PM] PIe: and donuts
[6:24 PM] PIe: BECAUSE THIS IS THE GTVA POLICE
[6:25 PM] Axem: :O
[6:25 PM] Axem: am i under arrest
[6:26 PM] [`_`]/: no, just please step out of the myrmidon
[6:26 PM] [`_`]/: you have so much to fred for

[9:50 PM] Sottises: wait did you do vassago's verge?
[9:50 PM] Sottises: .. dirge?
[9:50 PM] Axem: yes
[9:50 PM] Sottises: ohh
[9:50 PM] Sottises: well I have that and JAD too
[9:50 PM] Axem: :)
[9:50 PM] Sottises: what a contrast of themes lmao
[9:50 PM] Axem: isnt it
[9:51 PM] Axem: super grimdark thriller about unknowable alien intelligence and over the top colorful action about friendship
[9:51 PM] PIe: jad is grimdark???
[9:51 PM] Axem: :skull:

 

Offline wesp5

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Re: TBP 3.5 Work in Progress (Split from Star Fury Pilot Unofficial Patch 2.0 released!)
I'm not trying to insult you but based on what you've posted, I'm not sure you really understand how Knossos works.

Regardless of how Knossos works, everything you place into the data subfolder will end up in the game as usual. I agree that it may be best to add my stuff to the base game, but as long as it took to get the Raider Wars campaign working, I thought I might as well do it myself right now in the old way! A few days ago I already got a request via PM on how to get my missions and campaigns working in Knossos...

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First of all, we don't want people installing TBP 3.4b.

Then we should start with updating all pages that still link to TBP 3.4b! In fact the Blues News guy wanted to know if TBP 3.6.0 was legit as no official TBP webpage mentions it. I changed that for the ModDB, but at the moment the Knossos version is only known to people who are already TBP specialists.

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The best thing to do is to add your fixes to the SVN and let Karajorma or I integrate it into the Knossos release.

All my fixed missions and campaigns should already be in a temp folder of the 3.5.1 SVN so you are free to do so :)!
« Last Edit: October 01, 2019, 05:34:20 pm by wesp5 »

  
Re: TBP 3.5 Work in Progress (Split from Star Fury Pilot Unofficial Patch 2.0 released!)
I uninstalled TBP on my main system then re-installed it (I had been using some of the files from the beta testing before). So with a clean install I now get a shockwave error in the Raider Campaign if 3D shockwaves are enabled: Unable to open neither 3D nor 2D default shockwaves!!

Not sure that is normal. For now I turned them off in the settings.