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Offline SypheDMar

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I felt like I've asked this before, but I want to ask again since a lot has changed.

Is it possible to make a dedicated mobile page instead of a one-size-fits-all? That way, the desktop version doesn't have to suffer when trying to accommodate for tablets and phones. Instead of one suboptimal page, we can have two more optimal ones. Is that something we can do?

I was reminded of this again when I went to this forum and saw how clean it was on my tablet: http://www.wildfiregames.com/forum/

Can we do something similar?

edit: Just to clarify, I love how it looks on desktop at the moment. I just don't want it changed for the worst. I still think mobile could be tweaked a lot more.

 

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:) doesn't appear to be rendering correctly as a smiley in this post. Am I the only one getting this?
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Quote: Tuesday, 17 March 2020, 1340hrs UTC, #general
z64555
I highly doubt I'd be able to get enough precision with hand tools and a drill press to be able to make a good quality lathe
in fact, often its more expensive to try to build one from raw materials.  Unless you have access to a high-grade junkyard where you can salvage parts from

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the hardest part would be the "table" everything is on itself
because well, nothing can beat a ton and a half of strong steel shaped for the purpose

z64555
yes

Mito [PL]
Actually, seasoned ton and a half of strong steel shaped for the purpose

z64555
seasoned? what, you added spices to the metal?

 

Offline Fury

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Can we get rid of the google ads if it isnt even working? That white box in mobile looks stupid.

 

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Is it possible to make a dedicated mobile page instead of a one-size-fits-all? That way, the desktop version doesn't have to suffer when trying to accommodate for tablets and phones. Instead of one suboptimal page, we can have two more optimal ones. Is that something we can do?

I was reminded of this again when I went to this forum and saw how clean it was on my tablet: http://www.wildfiregames.com/forum/

Can we do something similar?

edit: Just to clarify, I love how it looks on desktop at the moment. I just don't want it changed for the worst. I still think mobile could be tweaked a lot more.

Unfortunately, dedicated mobile isn't really an option to my knowledge. The best you can get is the scary WAP pages. :scared:

Please realize that I haven't done much optimizing of the forums for mobile at all... mainly just made the width fluid and post sidebars stack to vertically below a certain size... stuff like that. I have a lot of ideas on the wishlist, and not anywhere near enough time ATM.

Can we get rid of the google ads if it isnt even working? That white box in mobile looks stupid.

White box?
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There is a white box in where ads should be. But since the account hasn't worked in ages, there is a white box in its place. Mobile browser doesn't have adblock, so it is slightly annoying.

 

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The [yt] tag apparently breaks automatic smileys. This post is getting the same issue as the post I linked to above.
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Quote: Tuesday, 17 March 2020, 1340hrs UTC, #general
z64555
I highly doubt I'd be able to get enough precision with hand tools and a drill press to be able to make a good quality lathe
in fact, often its more expensive to try to build one from raw materials.  Unless you have access to a high-grade junkyard where you can salvage parts from

Mito [PL]
the hardest part would be the "table" everything is on itself
because well, nothing can beat a ton and a half of strong steel shaped for the purpose

z64555
yes

Mito [PL]
Actually, seasoned ton and a half of strong steel shaped for the purpose

z64555
seasoned? what, you added spices to the metal?

 

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That's a odd thing with the YT tags... I'll try to look into that this week.

As for ads, I'm simply not seeing a white box in my Android phone, but I do know what you're talking about, Fury. I'm trying to get a clear picture of what the deal is with them before I just remove it though. Please bear with it some more... and remind me in a week if you haven't heard anything. :p
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill

 

Offline Fury

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Encountered a bug. Every time a poll is edited by whoever created it and is not a moderator, edit resets some of the poll's settings to default. I searched SMF forums and bug tracker and came up with nothing, so this leads me to ask whether this is a bug in the HLP theme or forum settings. Many of the settings that should be visible when editing a poll are missing, these settings are visible when creating new poll or when moderator edits the poll.

Poll layout is weird. Poll option texts are under poll checkbox, making it unnecessarily harder to see what's what.

Noticed that a critical SMF security update has been available for over a week now as well. Might want to check other apps have their security updates too.

 

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Encountered a bug. Every time a poll is edited by whoever created it and is not a moderator, edit resets some of the poll's settings to default. I searched SMF forums and bug tracker and came up with nothing, so this leads me to ask whether this is a bug in the HLP theme or forum settings. Many of the settings that should be visible when editing a poll are missing, these settings are visible when creating new poll or when moderator edits the poll.

Poll layout is weird. Poll option texts are under poll checkbox, making it unnecessarily harder to see what's what.

Noticed that a critical SMF security update has been available for over a week now as well. Might want to check other apps have their security updates too.

The thing with SMF theming (and this has been the main thing discouraging me from doing anything in-depth) is that they do not have any sort of disconnect between form and function. So as we continue using this theme (which IIRC was based on SMF 2 RC2 I think?) and the forums continue to be updated with new patches, there will be a growing disconnect between the functionality provided and expected by the forum code, and the features that the theme has built in.

WRT your specific issue, can you switch to the default SMF theme and see if the issue still occurs there? Barring that, give me a clear report of what settings specifically aren't carrying through, and I'll try to investigate.
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill

 

Offline Fury

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These options aren't visible in default SMF theme either. But it's shocking how much cleaner the default SMF theme is. HLP theme has so many layout and color issues. I think I'll use the default theme for now.

I can't give you a list of what's missing because I can't see them, duh. All I know is that the option to allow re-voting is missing when poll is edited by non-moderator, which forces the setting back to default (which is off).
« Last Edit: September 23, 2013, 11:24:34 pm by Fury »

 

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Something appears to have happened to reactivate my profanity filter despite the fact I've confirmed it's off, and flipped it back and forth once to be certain.

EDIT: Also now there's an unsightly blank space to either side of the content, of about an inch in width.
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EDIT: Also now there's an unsightly blank space to either side of the content, of about an inch in width.
Did you try a hard refresh? It's Ctrl-F5 on Firefox.

 

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EDIT: Also now there's an unsightly blank space to either side of the content, of about an inch in width.

Sounds like your forum preferences got reset somehow; I'm guessing you now have things set to fixed-width rather than fluid.
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill

  

Offline Fury

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The thing with SMF theming (and this has been the main thing discouraging me from doing anything in-depth) is that they do not have any sort of disconnect between form and function. So as we continue using this theme (which IIRC was based on SMF 2 RC2 I think?) and the forums continue to be updated with new patches, there will be a growing disconnect between the functionality provided and expected by the forum code, and the features that the theme has built in.
I mean no disrespect or offence, and this post is not just about SMF themes but in general. If you don't have time, will or both to keep up with web application updates, then perhaps you should admit as much and request to have someone on-board who does. See, themes can have bugs and some of them may even be security related. So keeping themes up-to-date is important too. As a neat side-effect, custom theme stays consistent with default theme and there shouldn't be weird layout or color issues like there currently is in the HLP theme.

Another thing  to consider is, perhaps you're customizing HLP theme more than is necessary. Sure it is nice to have something different, some bells and whistles and some additional eye-candy, but in the end they cause nothing but additional work when you have to update theme to latest version.

Another thing to remember is that most web applications supply detailed changelogs. Which is excellent means to check if you need to update files, themes or otherwise. In that case you can simply run side-by-side code comparison to see what needs to be modified, added or removed. Reducing time needed to keep things up-to-date.

Bottom line is, if it is true that the current theme is still based on SMF 2.0 RC2, then that means there might be potential security holes in the theme files themselves. It's no longer just an inconvenience from some layout/color issues, but security as well. Same applies to MediaWiki and anything else.
« Last Edit: September 28, 2013, 09:31:20 am by Fury »