[Arkangel]

First of all, the specs of my pc

512mb ATI 4870
E8400 Dual Core
6Gb DDR3 RAM
Monitor is 1920 x 1080 Res

Okay, things that make me lag-

Large objects/ships
Large Amounts of Ships
Warp in/out of ships

Basically all the stuff you'd expect to cause lag, but this didnt happen with the previous build (3.6.9) or the zeta mediavps but do with all the latest builds/mediavps. I turned all the graphics down to minimum including the resolution but the lag still occurs. Im fairly sure my rig should at least be able to handle an Apollo warping in on minimum graphics...

Can anyone provide an explanation?

[FUBAR-BDHR]

By latest builds do you mean 3.6.10 RC2?  Do you have the latest video drivers? 

[Arkangel]

Yes and Yes

Narrowed it down: its the entry/departure of ships and if a ship sends a message that causes the lag....

[Dilmah G]

Are you using the MVPs?

[Arkangel]

Yeah, the all-in-one mediavp

[Dilmah G]

Hmm, does that included the advanced mvp's? That WILL lag your system on occasion.

[haloboy100]

Hmm, does that included the advanced mvp's? That WILL lag your system on occasion.

Well, for comparison, I have a moderate computer (GTS 8800 GeForce card, 2GB RAM, 2.60 Ghz dual-core) and I never get framerate hits at all in FSO with adv effects.

[Flipside]

Just a shot in the dark here, but what soundcard do you have?

[colecampbell666]

And to clarify: It's not lag. Lag is due to a slow internet connection, this is a framerate issue.

[Arkangel]

Sorry, low fps then

The soundcard is one built into the motherboard (its one of the most recent gigabytes) but even if the message isn't initiating a sound it still lags.
Also has a brief low fps regardless of the adveffects. If the system can take fallout 3 on full im sure it should handle FSO

[captain-custard]

can you post your command line please, its in the file marked launcher in the FS folder , before that you can try this .... in the launcher go to features/gamespeed and click the v-sync box and retry, it woud be good as well to do a clean reinstal of your drivers to just make sure there are no clashes

other question , in the launcher what are your video settings , they should be open gl ( but i think the RC2 builds default to this

if you wish too check what open gl settings you have you can download this

http://www.realtech-vr.com/glview/download.html

run it and post the results


good luck

[karajorma]

3.6.10+ builds will only run in OpenGL regardless of whatever is set in the launcher. The D3D enabled builds I put up for TBP and BtRL users are the last D3D builds anyone ever built AFAIK and they're over a year old.

That said Arkangel's lack of a problem with 3.6.9 could be due to him running that in D3D mode and being very very lucky.

[Jeff Vader]

3.6.10+ builds will only run in D3D regardless of whatever is set in the launcher.

!

[karajorma]

OpenGL I mean. Fixed.

[Dilmah G]

You of all people making that mistake...

[Arkangel]

-env -normal -nomotiondebris -spec -glow -mipmap -snd_preload -fps -fov 0.65 -spec_exp 7.0 -spec_tube 5.0 -spec_point 8.6 -spec_static 3.0 -ambient_factor 80

Disabling V-Sync worked but video was unplayable
OpenGL as it should be
I did try a 3.6.9. build again for the hell of it and the mesage/jump issue was resolved! but there was a weird targeting issue so once again; unplayable

So yeah, a 3.6.10 issue i think   (forgot to mention im running 64bit vista if that makes a diference)

[Flipside]

Well, at least it appears you are not alone with the problem, which is good news, at least from your perspective

[captain-custard]

can you run the open gl app i linked earlier so i can see what your driver is doing?

[Arkangel]

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[M87]

Just posting to say that I'm also experiencing the same frame rate issue when comm animations occur. Only during these moments do I notice any frame rate loss. I should also note that I have a GPU that's in the same series, and has similar driver, OpenGL, and shading language versions as Arkangel's.