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Fixed cockpit viewpoints
I've been playing through FSPort and FS2 with show-ship enabled for all craft that have been reimagined with cockpits.

As I've gone through, I've noticed a lot of very silly viewpoints, which I've been fixing through PCS2.

Uploaded here are the ones I've fixed so far - I'm not sure how many people play with show-ship, but if you do or want to start doing so, this might save some trouble.

In the zip are the following fixes:
- GTB Medusa [moved back and down]
- GTB Zeus [moved forward, down and centered. I've placed it at the front pilot, though the old eye seemed to be at the back]
- GTF Hercules MkII [moved forward and down (VA did this one, so it will probably be in the next mediavp release anyway)]
- GTF Perseus [centered and moved forward. This one has the pilot always looking to the right, so you might see his nose if you use the hatswitch unfortunately]
- GTF Apollo [forward and down, iirc]
- GTF Valkyrie [back and up, iirc]
- GTF Hercules [forward, down and centered. The design of the nose means there are still artifacts, but they should be less noticeable now]

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If anyone's interested, I can keep posting these up as I do them. It's mainly a personal thing.

While I'm here, is there any way to fix the whole hud-makes-cockpit-transparent thing?
« Last Edit: June 14, 2009, 09:34:36 pm by voidSkipper »

 

Offline Zacam

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Re: Fixed cockpit viewpoints
That is some excellent work there. If you've gotten any that we have missed, we will definitely include them.

And heck, even if we did already manage to catch them all internally, I'll add your name to the credits list any way for taking the time to not only post the issue comprehensively, but also working through it and, in the spirit of community, sharing the results.
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Re: Fixed cockpit viewpoints
Zacam, probably stating the obvious here, but if you're updating the SVN models I think at least some of the POF versions we have will have changed since these versions. :)
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Re: Fixed cockpit viewpoints
Heh. Obvious it may be, but I thank the reminder any way.
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[08/01 16:53:11] <sigtau> EveningTea: I have decided that I am a 32-bit registerkin.  Pronouns are eax, ebx, ecx, edx.
[08/01 16:53:31] <EveningTea> dhauidahh
[08/01 16:53:32] <EveningTea> sak
[08/01 16:53:40] * EveningTea froths at the mouth
[08/01 16:53:40] <sigtau> i broke him, boys

 

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Re: Fixed cockpit viewpoints
Can't you just import the eyepoints?

 

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Re: Fixed cockpit viewpoints
I _could_, but that is nowhere near as nifty as opening both, and manually adjusting.   ;)
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[08/01 16:53:11] <sigtau> EveningTea: I have decided that I am a 32-bit registerkin.  Pronouns are eax, ebx, ecx, edx.
[08/01 16:53:31] <EveningTea> dhauidahh
[08/01 16:53:32] <EveningTea> sak
[08/01 16:53:40] * EveningTea froths at the mouth
[08/01 16:53:40] <sigtau> i broke him, boys

 
Re: Fixed cockpit viewpoints
Glad to be of service.

If the whole community handles the menial tasks, the team itself can concentrate on the exciting stuff  :P

 

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Re: Fixed cockpit viewpoints
Wait, this game has cockpits now? How do I enable them...

I see theres been a lot of progress since 3.6.7...

 

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Re: Fixed cockpit viewpoints
Sorta...most fighters have low poly, non-functional cockpits modeled in, which can be made visible via a table flag.

 

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Re: Fixed cockpit viewpoints
Although without this fix the viewpoints are quite screwed up.

  

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Re: Fixed cockpit viewpoints
Some minor corrections. Where possible, setting the viewpoint to "Pilot" or "Cockpit" (when or where either exists) makes much more sense than "Detail0" or "Hull".

The Ursa is the current exception, as there is no pilot or cockpit object to attach the viewpoint to.

I am currently going through all the models now.

K. For ships with cockpits in them, I corrected:

GTB Medusa
GTB Ursa
GTB Zeus
GTF Ulysses
GTF Pegasus
GTF Hercules Mark II
GTF Pegasus
GTF Erinyes
GTF Hercules
GTF Loki
« Last Edit: June 13, 2009, 05:38:23 pm by Zacam »
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[08/01 16:53:11] <sigtau> EveningTea: I have decided that I am a 32-bit registerkin.  Pronouns are eax, ebx, ecx, edx.
[08/01 16:53:31] <EveningTea> dhauidahh
[08/01 16:53:32] <EveningTea> sak
[08/01 16:53:40] * EveningTea froths at the mouth
[08/01 16:53:40] <sigtau> i broke him, boys

 
Re: Fixed cockpit viewpoints
If somebody could delete the attachment or show me how to do so, that would be great. The upload is broken, the mediafire link is what should be used to download.

FOX2PRO, if you paste the following into notepad and save it as a .tbm file in //freespace2/data/tables/, it will enable the specified ships to display cockpit view;

Code: [Select]
#Ship Classes

$Name: GTF Perseus
+nocreate
$Flags: ( "show ship" )


$Name: GTF Myrmidon
+nocreate
$Flags: ( "show ship" )


$Name: GTF Hercules Mark II
+nocreate
$Flags: ( "show ship" )


$Name: GTF Hercules
+nocreate
$Flags: ( "show ship" )


$Name: GTF Loki
+nocreate
$Flags: ( "show ship" )


$Name: GTB Medusa
+nocreate
$Flags: ( "show ship" )


$Name: GTB Ursa
+nocreate
$Flags: ( "show ship" )


$Name: GTF Apollo
+nocreate
$Flags: ( "show ship" )


$Name: GTF Valkyrie
+nocreate
$Flags: ( "show ship" )


$Name: GTB Athena
+nocreate
$Flags: ( "show ship" )


$Name: GTF Ulysses
+nocreate
$Flags: ( "show ship" )

#End

These are only the ships I have tested, though. There are many others with cockpits, but I haven't played any of them to see if the viewpoints are acceptable.

I think the best experience you'll get is in the GTB Athena. It looks truly badass if you hatswitch left and right and see the huge engine nacels. It's also one of the few ships that gives you a useful backwards hatswitch view.

EDIT: The Myrmidon doesn't have a cockpit, but it still offers quite a nice view as you can see the stabilisers. Since the Ulysses offers a completely unobstructed view due to the pilot's position, it's probably safe to say that the Myrmidon would as well anyway.

 
Re: Fixed cockpit viewpoints
If somebody could delete the attachment or show me how to do so, that would be great.
Click "Modify" at the top right of your post, then uncheck the attachment and click "Save" :P

 
Re: Fixed cockpit viewpoints
Sorta...most fighters have low poly, non-functional cockpits modeled in, which can be made visible via a table flag.

Although I'd say it's a pretty good job for something that's supposed to be viewed from outside, at about 35 meters(isn't that about where the chase camera is in relation to the cockpit?)
Good job doing the viewpoints. One of the more tedious things you can do with PCS2.

 

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Re: Fixed cockpit viewpoints
I only set the points on ships that had actual modeled cockpits. The Myrmidon already had it's eyepoint set.

The rest of the models could probably have them set as well, but until we get cockpits in them, I (personally) don't feel like expending the effort.

Unless there is enough of a request for it.
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[08/01 16:53:11] <sigtau> EveningTea: I have decided that I am a 32-bit registerkin.  Pronouns are eax, ebx, ecx, edx.
[08/01 16:53:31] <EveningTea> dhauidahh
[08/01 16:53:32] <EveningTea> sak
[08/01 16:53:40] * EveningTea froths at the mouth
[08/01 16:53:40] <sigtau> i broke him, boys

 
Re: Fixed cockpit viewpoints
Sorta...most fighters have low poly, non-functional cockpits modeled in, which can be made visible via a table flag.

Although I'd say it's a pretty good job for something that's supposed to be viewed from outside, at about 35 meters(isn't that about where the chase camera is in relation to the cockpit?)
Good job doing the viewpoints. One of the more tedious things you can do with PCS2.

I wonder if I could shanghai anyone into making a better cockpit texture... it doesn't need to be high poly, just a nicer texture.

And just asking again - is there any way to get rid of the transparancy glitch caused by looking through the cockpit's hud upright when there's hull or struts behind it?

 

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Re: Fixed cockpit viewpoints
http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,48726.0.html
and a rough to-do list:
http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,50349.msg1220717.html#msg1220717

Basically until we get the main cockpit system working, there's not a lot of point putting effort into improving the current dinky little system. ;)
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Re: Fixed cockpit viewpoints
Sorry for reviving a old thread, but I was wondering if anyone still had the fixed viewpoint files, as the link in the first post is invalid now.

 

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Re: Fixed cockpit viewpoints
I second that notion
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Re: Fixed cockpit viewpoints
Do you have the current mediavps? Because the models were integrated into them...
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