[666maslo666]

How much mining do you have to do to buy an Idris

You cannot buy ships in-game yet. I think it should be in the next patch..

[Colonol Dekker]

Seems like a key feature.......

"Downloads warframe on PS4 to experience boarding party mechanics"

[Aesaar]

How much mining do you have to do to buy an Idris

You cannot buy ships in-game yet. I think it should be in the next patch..

Yes, I'm sure CIG are definitely going to compromise the thing that makes them money.

Also, the only thing SC has over ED is its barely functional FPS system (which is a core feature of CryEngine to begin with).  ED has everything else and much more besides.  I don't much enjoy the game, but it's miles ahead of SC.  This isn't opinion.  ED objectively has more functional gameplay systems and more content than SC does.

[wookieejedi]

How much mining do you have to do to buy an Idris

You cannot buy ships in-game yet. I think it should be in the next patch..

Yes, I'm sure CIG are definitely going to compromise the thing that makes them money.

Also, the only thing SC has over ED is its barely functional FPS system (which is a core feature of CryEngine to begin with).  ED has everything else and much more besides.  I don't much enjoy the game, but it's miles ahead of SC.  This isn't opinion.  ED objectively has more functional gameplay systems and more content than SC does.

But does it have the power of anticipation and projection of dreams? 

[Aesaar]

No, which is why citizens dismiss it so readily.  They compare the imperfect game ED is to the perfect game they imagine SC will be.  All of SC's problems get dismissed with excuses like 'it's alpha/tier 0 implementation'.  Nevermind that the dogfighting has been **** since Arena Commander released and hasn't improved in those 4 years.

ED's at a disadvantage because ED is a finished game.  As long as Star Citisn't makes no meaningful progress, its fans will excuse every single ****ty aspect of it.  CIG has a vested interest in making as little progress as possible.  Once they release something, citizens will have to come to terms with the fact that the reality doesn't match their dreams.

[wookieejedi]

Yes I agree. It's human nature to love anticipation and to 'imprint' on things (I am guilty of this myself). SC is this in a masterclass. In this and other cases it leads to folks feeling like an attack on something you really like is an attack on yourself, and to create logic blind-spots. 

[Scotty]

- Jesus patch 3.0 was released, performance is still **** -> But fret not, the new Jesus patch 3.1 3.2 3.3 will make everything great again

Obviously you havent played SC recently, as performance is now at consistent 40 fps (assuming you have an SSD and 16 gigs of RAM). Patch 3.2 is out and was quite well received by the community. Also patches 3.1 and 3.2 were released without any delays, however at the cost of some features not making it.

Can I just take a moment to revisit how hilarious it is that maslo thinks 40 FPS is performance worth mentioning in a good light, and further listed two things that have very little to do with frame rates to back it up?

[Novachen]

Well, sometimes FSO do not give me more than 40 FPS in some missions too, even with a Titan X in SLI.


So you have to see it from this perspective. Star Citizen has finally closed the gap to FSO 

[666maslo666]

Can I just take a moment to revisit how hilarious it is that maslo thinks 40 FPS is performance worth mentioning in a good light, and further listed two things that have very little to do with frame rates to back it up?

40 FPS is not ideal but very much playable and you need to put it in contrast with 20 FPS that we used to get when 3.0 landed. That is why I mentioned this important figure. Also, a lot of SC performance issues have to do with heavy stuttering any time the game touches anything out of RAM, hence why the need for SSD and lots of RAM. Processor is also kind of a bottleneck. GPU less so.

[wookieejedi]

Can I just take a moment to revisit how hilarious it is that maslo thinks 40 FPS is performance worth mentioning in a good light, and further listed two things that have very little to do with frame rates to back it up?

40 FPS is not ideal but very much playable and you need to put it in contrast with 20 FPS that we used to get when 3.0 landed. That is why I mentioned this important figure. Also, a lot of SC performance issues have to do with heavy stuttering any time the game touches anything out of RAM, hence why the need for SSD and lots of RAM. Processor is also kind of a bottleneck. GPU less so.

Interesting. Objectively a gain is 20+ fps is indeed an improvement (even if it took a while). If you, as a paying backer, are happy with the progress and logical about the road-map then I don't want to hamper something you enjoy. For me it's not my cup of tea, but to each their own 

[Scotty]

40 FPS after four years of a playable demo is horse****, hth.

[The E]

40 FPS after four years of a playable demo is horse****, hth.

40 FPS is 33% more cinematic than any 30 FPS console peasant game, don't you know.

[Nightmare]

40 FPS after four years of a playable demo is horse****, hth.

40 FPS is 33% more cinematic than any 30 FPS console peasant game, don't you know.

I think SC will run fine on any common Quantum PC once it's released.

[Grizzly]

40 FPS after four years of a playable demo is horse****, hth.

It's a feature of the CryEngine.

[Lorric]

$189M now eh? Another huge, mind blowing jump since the last time I saw the number, I think it was about $140M then.

It has to end sometime, right? There's only so much the cash cows can be milked, right? Right?

[Nightmare]

Probably they should start mining crypto currencies to get that thing financed.

[Col. Fishguts]

Can I just take a moment to revisit how hilarious it is that maslo thinks 40 FPS is performance worth mentioning in a good light, and further listed two things that have very little to do with frame rates to back it up?

40 FPS is not ideal but very much playable and you need to put it in contrast with 20 FPS that we used to get when 3.0 landed. That is why I mentioned this important figure. Also, a lot of SC performance issues have to do with heavy stuttering any time the game touches anything out of RAM, hence why the need for SSD and lots of RAM. Processor is also kind of a bottleneck. GPU less so.

Word on the street is that they disabled a lot of NPCs for 3.2 so that the server doesn't **** the bed and you get a decent framerate.
But I'm sure subsumption AI/server meshing/ bind culling will fix these issues, once Crobbers get's around to implement them in one of his late night coding sessions.

[BlueFlames]

Probably they should start mining crypto currencies to get that thing financed.

They're looking for a way to get backers to pay for the privilege of mining cryptocurrency for CIG.

[Mikes]

40 FPS after four years of a playable demo is horse****, hth.

40 FPS is 33% more cinematic than any 30 FPS console peasant game, don't you know.

I think SC will run fine on any common Quantum PC once it's released.

Chris Roberts games always ran like a turd on current generation hardware.

It's a feature! It's traditional! It wouldn't be a real spiritual Wing Commander successor otherwise! :-)

(Although, back in the day, the next gen CPU was always leaps and bounds faster than the last one, which definitely is no more the case. going from 286 to 386 was a different world back then. Same when the 486er finally released)

[Colonol Dekker]

Yeah but I used to run frontier elite 2 on a 286.   Wing commander 3 ran on a 486 and I think frontier had better ganeplay.