[MP-Ryan]

*sigh*

I've seen this kind of thing far too much.  You know...and why should a kid/teenager/whatever have to argue with their parents so that their parents will come to a more reasonable and logical outcome instead of a kneejerk reaction based on no knowledge or understanding?  Unless we're missing something here.

I guess I have a beef with this kind of thing.  Drives me around the bend.

I'm with you on that one IceFire.

Here's a question:  has Titan's father ever sat down and looked over HLP and the FreeSpace universe?  Has he taken 10 minutes out of his day to bother to see what his kid is looking at rather than just assume it's bad?

HLP is frequented by people from all walks of life, including not a few people with varied degrees (or multiple degreees), a variety of national backgrounds, and a huge variety of employment backgrounds.  It's hardly a stereotypical internet community, especially for young people.

Having grown up with the Internet's evolution myself, knowing far more about computing than anyone in my family, and having been exposed to some of the worst the Internet has to offer I can certainly respect what Titan's dad is trying to accomplish, but I think he's going about it in entirely the wrong way.  Assuming you know what your kid is doing online is a far cry from actually knowing (and I say this as some whose parents thought they knew what I was doing and had absolutely no clue) and the absolute best policy about this technology is to sit down and explain your position, keeping an open line of communication going on.

There are far worse things in life that Titan could be getting himself into than sitting on HLP in his spare time.  Now, if he's using this place and dodging homework and household responsibilities then that is another matter entirely.

Best thing you could do Titan is ask your dad to sit down with you and go over what HLP is, how it functions, and what exactly you do on this site.  You might try a read over the Wikipedia article on open-source software as well, follow by quick redirection to unbuntu.com (surely your Dad has heard of Linux?), Sun Java, OpenOffice.org, and Sourceforge.net to explain how this works.

[colecampbell666]

But none of those programs are by Microsoft.

[nubbles526]

His dad seems to think that Microsoft = God^TM and open source = Satan/equivalent.

Titan's Dad: Son you must learn to trust in the Father: Microsoft, in the Son: Bill Gates, and the Holy Ghost: Windows.
Titan: But Dad freespace has like really cool graphics and stuff!
Titan's Dad: No son! you must stay away from the Warez Gods! it is blasphemy! *he then proceeds to take out an amulet in the shape of a window and starts humming the jingle you here when you start windows.*

Oooohhhh....ROFL...

*cough* getting back on topic, what exactly is Titan Snr. concerned about HLP?

[Jeff Vader]

what exactly is Titan Snr. concerned about HLP?

It doesn't appear to be HLP as such. It's more about the fact that Titan has been downloading a lot of stuff from the Interwebs for free. That can only be described as criminal activity. Criminal activity more severe than raping puppies.

[Ghostavo]

Perhaps it's due to downloading too much stuff, which can be troublesome if you don't have an unlimited download connection or a pay by gigabyte rate or something.

[Dark RevenantX]

What I'm getting from this is that Titan's dad believes that Titan is doing a lot of illegal downloading activities and general warez while discussing it with his online buddies and is thus in the following mood:

ˈFəkɪŋ pissed.

He probably fears that the FBI is going to be knocking at the door, telling them that they have fines for a quarter million dollars, a Felony charge, and that their hardware will be confiscated permanently.


I haven't heard of someone acting so... violently due to a simple exceeding of bandwidth.

[Mika]

About Haloboys comment breaking ribs: if you suspect that something like that could have happened, for your own sake go see a doctor! Punched hard enough, rib bone can puncture lung, but this you would certainly know, had it happened.

However, if the broken part fastens itself back to the old part but in wrong angle or in wrong position, it will bother you a) for the rest of your life b) until it breaks next time, and it will do it easier. Also, if you take too long to visit doctor, they have to break it again! By the way this is coming from a person who didn't know he had broken one of his palm bones and had to see the X-ray picture to believe it. That happened fortnight after the fracture, but the broken part was not fastened to a wrong position and could be adjusted correctly.

Personally I'm starting to be quite tired of these kind of "men" that punch their kids or wifes, and surprisingly Italian and Spanish men are not indeed at the top of my good people list. If you lived any closer, I could come for a visit to dislocate a couple of joints and break some major limb bones. Of course, nothing that couldn't recuperate.

Also, titan, how much have you been playing with computer lately? I recall my father simply locked the computer for two weeks if I had been sitting too much in front of the screen (which I, admittedly, did quite a lot between ages 10 and 14). Time by time he was quite pissed off about playing too much, but it never went to violence.

Mika

[colecampbell666]

Perhaps it's due to downloading too much stuff, which can be troublesome if you don't have an unlimited download connection or a pay by gigabyte rate or something.

He uses this internet connection. (he let slip a while ago)

[Mars]

He downloaded 4GB on a dialup connection 

[Polpolion]

Here's a question:  has Titan's father ever sat down and looked over HLP and the FreeSpace universe?  Has he taken 10 minutes out of his day to bother to see what his kid is looking at rather than just assume it's bad?

HLP is frequented by people from all walks of life, including not a few people with varied degrees (or multiple degreees), a variety of national backgrounds, and a huge variety of employment backgrounds.  It's hardly a stereotypical internet community, especially for young people.

Having grown up with the Internet's evolution myself, knowing far more about computing than anyone in my family, and having been exposed to some of the worst the Internet has to offer I can certainly respect what Titan's dad is trying to accomplish, but I think he's going about it in entirely the wrong way.  Assuming you know what your kid is doing online is a far cry from actually knowing (and I say this as some whose parents thought they knew what I was doing and had absolutely no clue) and the absolute best policy about this technology is to sit down and explain your position, keeping an open line of communication going on.

There are far worse things in life that Titan could be getting himself into than sitting on HLP in his spare time.  Now, if he's using this place and dodging homework and household responsibilities then that is another matter entirely.

Best thing you could do Titan is ask your dad to sit down with you and go over what HLP is, how it functions, and what exactly you do on this site.  You might try a read over the Wikipedia article on open-source software as well, follow by quick redirection to unbuntu.com (surely your Dad has heard of Linux?), Sun Java, OpenOffice.org, and Sourceforge.net to explain how this works.

That won't work. By the sounds of it, his dad has already made up his mind on HLP, and all he'll be doing is looking for bad things. And if you're looking for bad things, you'll find them even on the most perfect things ever, and I can't honestly say that HLP is more perfect than that. The only thing that would accomplish is a more definite not-allowing.

A slightly less bad thing to do would be to just simply explain the general story of HLP, Freespace, and the SCP.

[haloboy100]

About Haloboys comment breaking ribs: if you suspect that something like that could have happened, for your own sake go see a doctor! Punched hard enough, rib bone can puncture lung, but this you would certainly know, had it happened.

However, if the broken part fastens itself back to the old part but in wrong angle or in wrong position, it will bother you a) for the rest of your life b) until it breaks next time, and it will do it easier. Also, if you take too long to visit doctor, they have to break it again! By the way this is coming from a person who didn't know he had broken one of his palm bones and had to see the X-ray picture to believe it. That happened fortnight after the fracture, but the broken part was not fastened to a wrong position and could be adjusted correctly.
Mika

Well, maybe he just chipped it, because after feeling it for a while I felt little bits around.

[colecampbell666]

That's horrible. Learn karate, ad subsequently get kicked out.

[tinfoil]

bad idea.
try getting in on your parent's account if you can't get access anywhere else

[haloboy100]

That's horrible. Learn karate, ad subsequently get kicked out.

Eh? Meh. Me and my dad (especially him) are Italian. Family fights are all part of the "love".

[tinfoil]

Dude - family yelling matches are normal. if you got a cracked rib because of said love somthing is not right.

[jr2]

Dude - family yelling matches are normal. if you got a cracked rib because of said love somthing is not right.

QFT  And, downloading 4GB over dial-up is possible with resuming software that can auto-dial, resume the download, then hang up come early morning.  I used to download all sorts of utilities and game demos at night.  (Have to keep phone line free.)  Figure 3KB/s average, that's 16.1 days if you do 24 hours a day.  Let's say 6 hours of downloading per night.  64.72 days.

[tinfoil]

now is that QTF in the sense of qouted for truth or other less polite meanings.

[jr2]

I wasn't aware of the other meanings.  Quoted For Truth.

[tinfoil]

the other one is quit talking faggot or ****er depending on your mood

[DREDHAWK]

I have a Bios password and a windows pass word so my parents cant get into my computer.  im the computer geek of the house anyways.  if they restart my computer they will get the bios password if they some how get pass that they will have the windows password to figer out and i don't use sort pass words   there is a way to to bye pass window password in safe mode but my parent wouldn't now how to do that   they proble don't even no what safe mode is