[Mars]

*doges behind counter*
Whew, I thought that trout was meant for me.

Yeah, the new Elysium looks good with env mapping.

[Cobra]

does anyone else get those nebula colors on the hulls and canopies/windows with env. mapping on?

Wow. Just... wow.

*smacks with a trout* What do you think environment mapping is?

i'm talking about the three ****ing NEBULA BITMAPS.

[Mars]

Screen shot? I'm just not understanding you (I hope). You're supposed to see background bitmaps on ships windows and hulls and such.

[ARSPR]

Great work!!

One HTL ship more is always good news.

(I have also LOD 2 and 3 issue).

[Taristin]

does anyone else get those nebula colors on the hulls and canopies/windows with env. mapping on?

Wow. Just... wow.

*smacks with a trout* What do you think environment mapping is?

i'm talking about the three ****ing NEBULA BITMAPS.

Yeah. And? Environment mapping takes the background maps (a.k.a. the environment) and shows it on the hull.

[Cobra]

...you just freaking missed the point. i'm talking about the nebula bitmaps that show up on the canopy when there's nothing there to reflect.

[Mars]

Yeah, I have things reflecting in the tech room, I'm assuming that's supposed to happen.

[ARSPR]

...you just freaking missed the point. i'm talking about the nebula bitmaps that show up on the canopy when there's nothing there to reflect.

This is a question for Taylor to answer. But I think it's coded a fixed env reflection within F3 window or tech room. Because of this reason, Taylor gave a cubemap.vp (cubemap.dss) with his builds, to see this reflection even from the first time you ran the new env mapping feature. Look at http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,39734.msg809846.html#msg809846

[Taristin]

...you just freaking missed the point. i'm talking about the nebula bitmaps that show up on the canopy when there's nothing there to reflect.

Perhaps if you specified that you were talking about in the techroom, or the lab, or that there were no nebulas present, rather than flipping out when people look at you like you're just now noticing there's light coming from the sun, there wouldn't be this problem.

[Axem]

Ah communication. Where would we be without you?

If I recall, the nebula "lighting" is usually retained from the last mission you've played. Though nothing should show up right away, like ARSPR said, the cubemap may be pushing itself on.

Also I notice this has sorta drifted off topic just so slightly. Let's get back to the original topic. Which is satisfying my ego with your praises and offers of sacrifice.   

[Taristin]

like ARSPR said

Don't take this wrong if its not the case, but does anyone else read ARSPR as ARSePiRate? >..> It just fits the lettering too well <..>

[Mars]

I read it aspar which gets turned, in my mind, to aspartame.

That's one sexy shoebox Axem I will sacrafice my virgin (loser) self on an alter before its boxy alter.

[ARSPR]

like ARSPR said

Don't take this wrong if its not the case, but does anyone else read ARSPR as ARSePiRate? >..> It just fits the lettering too well <..>

Well I can assure you that there's a much easier explanation for my forum name ...

But I think Axem is right, lets return this thread to praise him  : 

(BUT you still have a LOD issue and I think the ship paths are a bit mad  )

[S-99]

As far as the elysiums cockpit windows go. Keep in mind this thing flies just like bobba fetts ship, i have no doubt this thing lands the same way too.

[Axem]

(BUT you still have a LOD issue and I think the ship paths are a bit mad  )

I still can't figure out that LOD issue. It's driving me crazy. And what's wrong with the paths? I copied them directly from the old pof.

[ARSPR]

Well in F3 renderer, paths don't seem quite logical.

BUT I do not know what they exactly do, (or if they are really important),  AND I haven't checked the old model ones. You'll have to ask to someone more expert about them ( or just not noob as myself).

[karajorma]

I still can't figure out that LOD issue. It's driving me crazy.

I seem to vaguely remember that PCS works out the LODs from the order they were added NOT from the names.

It's been a while so don't quote me on that but I seem to remember having this same problem a few years back.

Shouldn't take you more than a minute or two to check if I'm right about that. Just simply pull the LODs out of the hierarchy and then add them back in the correct order and convert.

[Axem]

Ah sorry. I must have missed that.

But it did seem to do the trick. Thanks. Add that to the stupid things in FreeSpace modding book.

LODs look fine in modelview and the lab. I've uploaded a new model, it should just be in the same place as the old one.

[karajorma]

No need to apologise. It's you who got driven crazy by missing it not me

Glad it's working now though

[StratComm]

Cool!