[knn]

Is this a waste of polygons?

I won't make all the armor plates, just the bigger ones. The three intake like things to the sides of the big modeled plate, the mouth-like things below and the 3 plates with circles on the sides are candidates for extrudes
Turrets will get moved a bit too

Edit since this post got on a new page, I'll quote my previous post (it's kinda relevant too)

what should the polycount be? I was thinking about 10k, and it's 9k now (will be optimized tho)

[Akalamanaia]

Bosch: "Okay who the shivan installed a eyebrow, and a nose on my ship!?" 

I think just a few armor plate pieces are useless unless the whole plating is modelled, giving it a complete look..


[edit]post looked like it had correct spelling when posting, but suddenly after posting word armour missed the o.

[StratComm]

The only way that could be worthwhile is if it uses a different texture.  It's too small, too shallow, and serves no real purpose from what I can see to spend the polygons on.

[knn]

Bosch: "Okay who the shivan installed a eyebrow, and a nose on my ship!?" 

I think just a few armr plate pieces are useless unless the whole plating is modelled, giving it a complete look..

Not really, the ones I'm thinking of doing look like they stick out better. They have a sharper edge around them

The only way that could be worthwhile is if it uses a different texture.  It's too small, too shallow, and serves no real purpose from what I can see to spend the polygons on.

Probably


Added a light:

[StratComm]

Yeah, if I didn't know it was bumped out then I would never guess that it was.

[knn]

That's the kind of thing bumpmapping was invented for
Too bad FSO doesn't have it yet

[FireCrack]

Detail boxes?

[knn]

Still doesn't justify it. Detail boxes are for detail that can be seen. This one can barely be seen with lighting or when the angle is right. Even with detail boxes, the amount of available polygons is not endless

[Sheepy]

I say leave it as just texture, or make it more obvious.

[Sandwich]

There's a couple of wide, dark bands on the texture that look like they should be indented the whole way across, from one edge to the other. Those would show up...

[S-99]

Can't someone make the head of the iceni a little more distinguishing?
All it's got is two beam cannons.
I really don't know what should go on the head of the iceni, or maybe what should go on top of the head.
I guess that's why the iceni is a challenge, i mean the collossus has windows on it's head, the orion doesn't really have windows on it's head, but it's got distinguishing lighting and textures in the least.
Yes it's a lot less plain and neat looking now with the htl version underway.
But, so far the only reason for the head on the iceni is just those two beams still.
Any type of glowpoints or something, idk about windows so much for the head unless you put some on the top or the bottom of it.
I mean design usually goes for how it's going to be used, not how it looks, the head looks cool, but people have been debating that's not where the bridge is because enemies beam the hell out of the head of the iceni.
It needs to have more of a purpose for the honking huge ass head than just two beams.
Especially if people are debating that the bridge isn't in the head, and the fact the head has no windows or anything particular.
Just make it more distinguishing or something, glowpoints, idk what to suggest, make the head look like it has a purpose because it's big, it's the head of the vessel, and it only has two beams, the head of the iceni looks very primary to how the ship would be piloted and especially where a bridge would be or something.

[StratComm]

The head of the Iceni looks like a battering ram, which further suggests that it was designed for running blockades.  It actually would kill the design to have windows there, and AFAIK there has been a conscious decision not to put windows there.

[S-99]

No i wasn't saying put windows there indefinitely, just do something, that gives the head a little more distinguishment.
As far as the battering ram hypothesis goes, i've never heard that one before.
Yeah that makes the iceni make more sense in it's design, and especially how it was used in the fs2 campaign.
In the fs2 campaign it's always on the move, the only blockade unfortuneately i get to see it run is when the iceni makes it's final run to gamma draconis.
The iceni probably could have survived without the collossus being sabotaged, i mean that wasn't too big of a window for the iceni not to get blasted till it warps out.
Anyway, i don't wish to get off topic.
The htl iceni is extremely lovely, and the head of it to, now that it's make sense purpose is brought to dawn upon me
I hope it gets finished, i really want to see it badly in game.

[TrashMan]

Well, you could adda window strip above the two beam cannons, but if you do make it intruded...a lot.

that still keeps hte rugged feel of it and at the same time adds something that can serve as a bridge.

[Galemp]

If you do add a set of bridge windows remember that they look like this: / \ / \ / \

I always got the feeling Bosch was looking out the side, though.

[Herra Tohtori]

The windows probably were like that for some reason (I'm thinking that triangular structures are stronger than rectangular), thus the windows probably were similar all the way round Iceni. It wouldn't make any sense to mix different kind of windows in different parts of ship.

So, it doesn't really matter where Bosch was standing, looking out; the bridge windows vere similar on a very high probability.

[knn]

If you do add a set of bridge windows remember that they look like this: / \ / \ / \

I always got the feeling Bosch was looking out the side, though.

Yes, he probably was, the Iceni had no windows on the front. And

The head of the Iceni looks like a battering ram, which further suggests that it was designed for running blockades.  It actually would kill the design to have windows there, and AFAIK there has been a conscious decision not to put windows there.

Yes, I decided not to put windows there 5 pages ago 

IMO the bridge is located at the top of the neck, where it connects to the middle section.

[starfox]

Is it possible to make certain parts of the ship more heavily shielded/armored than others, just thought if the Iceni was designed as the sort of "Blockade Runner" then the front certainly should have more armor than the rest. I mean, that by shooting the front part damages the ship much more slowly, than shooting the rear.

[Singh]

As far as the battering ram hypothesis goes, i've never heard that one before.

You, sir, need to read the stickied story in the Arts forum. The Iceni's head is actually a battering ram in disguise, so that the captain can stand and say, all engines, Double burn - bring us up to ramming speed! and make it look extremely cool too

[S-99]

long time to be posting on this thread
but i wonder how much damage 10 iceni's could do battering the colosus
that'd certainly be an interesting way to make the gtva crap its pants