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I say go with the Lucifer beams. After all, the GTI was researching Shivan technology and biology. To reinforce my opinion, they had Super lasers on the original Hades. That's my two cents.

EDIT: Sorry, forgot to mention that I've never played Silent Threat, so correct me if I'm wrong about the above info. And btw, can't wait to play ST: Reborn!

 

Offline Night Hammer

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Whenever I played the port the beams were more of an orangish color, just do that, like kinda red kinda yellow, but like Icefire said reduced efficiency would prolly be a good touch
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I'd go for a somewhat less powerful version of the Lucifer's beams.

 

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Definitely go with the Lucifer beam look, at least.  It would make sense for them to be dumbed down somewhat.  Remember, when the GTA captured the Dragon fighter, they couldn't get a few of its systems to work right.  I'd guess GTI would have the same problems with beam weapons.

 

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The GTI had fully functional Shivan weapons operating on the Hades. Maybe they had some help from a captured Shivan or something.
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I vote other.  But I agree with the Luci style beams, but they should behave more like SReds.  5 SReds is sufficient to carve a destroyer into chunks in a couple of volleys not to mention the infinite supply of fighter craft the Hades has. ;)
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"Other"

Create some unique beams, if it's not too much trouble.
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I voted 'other', with Lucy beams second.

Personally, I feel that the GTI would never have got full power lucy beams to work, and I'd doubt that they would already have Fs2 Terran grade beams by that point.

I'd suggest that the Hades have normal Shivan beams, with slightly altered colours and other twecks, so they are not as powerful.  To be honest, the Shivans should of had beams (the red ones) right from the outset.

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AFAIK beams were only used on the Lucifer during the Great War therefore aquiring them would be extremely bothersome...though not impossible.

Who said the Shivans had a chance to help them - how about incorporating them into the control system so they can fool the Shivan parts they aquired from Ross128 and the rest of the battlefield into believing they're in proper hands. - could be too cliche though.
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LuciferBeams, running at lower power rating (as with the shields we appropriate from the Shivans).
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Like Luciferbeams, but more transparent around the edges and somewhat duller...i.e. looking less powerful (bright), but more 'ragged' around the edges, as if the powerflow was poorly regulated.

EDIT: i.e. if the Lucifer beams were a lightsaber, these would be a light-chainsaw. :)
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Offline pyro-manic

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Quote
Originally posted by aldo_14
Like Luciferbeams, but more transparent around the edges and somewhat duller...i.e. looking less powerful (bright), but more 'ragged' around the edges, as if the powerflow was poorly regulated.

EDIT: i.e. if the Lucifer beams were a lightsaber, these would be a light-chainsaw. :)


I like it! :nod::yes:

Lucybeams, but weaker/slower-firing.
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maybe flikering a bit, like they were barley able to fire.
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I vote for Lucybeams, but maybe with a reduced rate of fire.
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Spoiler'ed for great justice :p (see my post below) // Goober5000
Spoiler:
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The GTI would have no way of exactly copying LuciferBeam technology. As far as we know in FS1 era, there was only one Lucifer, and it was the only ship with beams. When it was destroyed, it died in the node, and in Sol, and we all know what happened to the node. So really, the only thing the GTI have to go off of when building beam weapons is scans from Alpha One and other attacks by the Lucifer, and a whole lote of theorizing + guess and check. The GTI would use what they know, combine it with what they think works, and create a prototype beam cannon that would be the precursor to what we see now, as it would be the first Terran beam cannon.  Thus, it being Terran, it should be green. It wouldn't be Shivan, because the GTI don't have the magical ability to just duplicate whatever technology they see. If they did, we'd see ships after Capella armed with BFReds....

You guy sforget that the Kayser used Shivan technology and design, but was not a direct shivan weapon in the sense that you wouldn't see it mounted on any shivan ships.  It's reverse-engineered shivan technology, rebuilt and adapted to suit terran needs. Just as Beams are. The GTI took what they knew of the LuciferBeam cannons and made their own prototype. They didn't jack the beams off the Lucifers' broken corpse...

The exception however, are Shivan Turrets mounted on the Hades. However, these are explained through the GTA capturing the Taranis and checking it out, as well as the various cargo depots carptured. It's been theorized that the  Shivans would have kept spare Beam Cannon parts in the cargo depots, but I highly doubt that. Namely because the Lucifer was unique, and invincible, as were the beam cannons.

In summary, it makes perfect sense for the Hades to have Green (if not a little on the weak side) Beam cannons, vs. t3h L\/CiF3R C4n|\|0nZ!!11
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Voted other. They shouldn't be perfect FS2 era military grade beams, but they also shouldn;t be carbon copies of the Lucifers beams, for the reasons KTs explained. A Pale Green would seem appropriate IMO, if you can make it look good.
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Hey - staff aren't supposed to post their opinions in the thread, KT. :p

The first post is for laying out the two arguments.  The rest of the thread is for polling the HLP populace.

 

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The Hades is ugly enough as it is. Don't mix green beams with red turret fire.

 

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Green? Runner? Kidney? Butter? How about Chillie?

Oh, you said BEAMS.... ah... um...

 

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Green beams, for the same reasons as KT says.
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