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What should the ship be changed to?

Leave it, the alternatives are worse.
24 (63.2%)
Rakshasa, it's a logical choice even though it's a bit smaller.
10 (26.3%)
Demon, there may or may not be Demon destroyers lurking about.
2 (5.3%)
Cain/Lilith, they are iconic.
0 (0%)
Multiple ships including Rakshasa, Cain, Lilith, etc.
2 (5.3%)

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Author Topic: FS2 ANI Inconsistency  (Read 9011 times)

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Offline mjn.mixael

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I'm about to start on cb_sm1-04_c (I've attached a screen to jog your memory).

It shows a Ravana destroyer coming out of the Knossos portal before you even enter the Nebula for the first time. This is quite inconsistent with the FS2 story and the reveal of the Ravana later on. So let's put it to a vote. The results of this poll will determine what ship it is changed to.

Things to consider.

Smaller ship class means harder to see and smaller portal size.

I *COULD* fudge the scales a little bit, but some of you will freak out if I do that.

Could simply leave it inconsistent.

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Offline General Battuta

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It's obviously the Vassago, leave it.

 

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It's obviously the Vassago, leave it.

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I dunno, I think anis made for a FreeSpace upgrade project should definitely be made to make sense with the FreeSpace 2 canon story, not any one's custom campaign.
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Offline General Battuta

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I dunno, I think anis made for a FreeSpace upgrade project should definitely be made to make sense with the FreeSpace 2 canon story, not any one's custom campaign.

Or they could stay true to the original instead of forcing an equally crappy alternative.

 

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The Ravana doesn't make a whole lot of sense there, but it does look really cool in that .ani, so I vote for leaving it.

 

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Leave it, I'm sure [V] understood what was going on with the Ravana - it was most likely meant as either an easter-egg for your second time through or a subtle foreshadowing of later events, rather than a straight up continuity error.
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While I can see the argument for having it make sense with canon, in my opinion, the FSU is upgrading original stuff, rather than changing original stuff to have it make sense with the other original stuff. Sure, a bit of fixing of plain buggy crap is alright in my opinion, but this is a bit more of a story integral element than a gameplay bug, and so I reckon the upgraded ani should be exactly that, rather than a 'fixed to make sense with story, high res ani'.

If an .ani doesn't make sense where it's placed in the story, that's :v:'s problem, not ours. :P

 

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I actually mistook that for a Rakshasa all this time until mjn pointed this out at the very beginning of this thread. I think it's a good idea to leave it as is, though. Anything smaller than a Ravana will require squinting, and bear in mind that I've mistaken that for a Rakshasa for five years. I believe I would have continued mistaking it for another fifty if somebody didn't tell me it was a Ravana.
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what do you mean its not a rakshasa? (will check out the retail ani, just in case...)


nevermind, i thought this was the one where the aeolus got beamed.
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I actually mistook that for a Rakshasa all this time until mjn pointed this out at the very beginning of this thread. I think it's a good idea to leave it as is, though. Anything smaller than a Ravana will require squinting, and bear in mind that I've mistaken that for a Rakshasa for five years.

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In a completely offtopic note,

LOOK HOW GOOD THAT HAZE LOOKS ON THE WARP RIFT

:nervous: Don't kill me.

Meh, screw it. If you guys want to hijack a new thread to make a point about something you dislike about a previous work of mine, whatever. I've got better things to do than to please you all with ANIs.
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The views of many outweigh the views of a few. And the major part loves every bit of your awesome work.

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And I think Mr. mixael can surely handle constructive critisism when it's offered in a clever and polite way :nod:

OnTopic:

I also always thought it was a Rakshasa until we had a conversation about that ANI in our forum a few months ago :D
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Offline General Battuta

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In a completely offtopic note,

LOOK HOW GOOD THAT HAZE LOOKS ON THE WARP RIFT

:nervous: Don't kill me.

Meh, screw it. If you guys want to hijack a new thread to make a point about something you dislike about a previous work of mine, whatever. I've got better things to do than to please you all with ANIs.

Well, technically I think what you're doing is pleasing us all with ANIs.  :nervous: However, let my register my opinion that haze and bloom as present in the retail anis is a worthy investment if we find someone who has the knowledge and skill to invest in making it happen.

 

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Haze and Bloom in the retail ANIs? Look again... the Orion and Sobek are at abotu 50% opacity as they warp out.. you can see the stars behind them...
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Offline General Battuta

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Well, whatever was used to prevent the hard clipping.

 

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Then you should consider changing a lot of other FS1 ani's with jumpnode inconsistencies.

Looking at the future, if you start changing things now you'll have hell breaking loose here in HLP, everyone will have a say about how those ani's should be or what did V meant.

So no, my vote (even if I don't like voting to leave it that way) is negative.
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Well, technically I think what you're doing is pleasing us all with ANIs.  :nervous: However, let my register my opinion that haze and bloom as present in the retail anis is a worthy investment if we find someone who has the knowledge and skill to invest in making it happen.

Thanks for assuming I couldn't pull it off...

This took a lot of work to figure out and set up. http://imagebin.org/127863

Now will you all shut the frick up and get back on topic?
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Rakshasa

This ani is probably older than final version of Freespace 2 storyline, when the Maxim was called Newton etc. Maybe, in previous version of the storyline Ravana might be first big shivan ship from the 2nd Shivan Armada what attacked GTVA by the Knossos in Gamma Draconis. Later, it was changed to Rakshasa.
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