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Shield discussion (split from WIP)
They're not sensor globes, dammit, they're shield generators. You know, in Episode VI, the Imp officer goes "Sir! We just lost our bridge's deflector shields!" right after one globe goes kablooey.

Looks nice, but I liked your old ones better.
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Actually, we've come to the agreement that they are sensor globes, based on resemblance to real life counterparts, and on sources compiled before the sources that claimed they were shield generators.  However, we have also agreed that due to an error in their engineering, they are somehow tied into the shields systems, so that their failure will, at least for a time, cause the shields to go down.  This should satisfy both everything seen in the movies, and agree with all first-party sources.
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They're not sensor globes, dammit, they're shield generators. You know, in Episode VI, the Imp officer goes "Sir! We just lost our bridge's deflector shields!" right after one globe goes kablooey.

Looks nice, but I liked your old ones better.

nope .. there are sensor globes most likely ... Just click http://www.theforce.net/swtc/towers.html#globes
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Well if the people who designed the scene and model say they are sensor globes, I agree. 
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Dude .. the link I posted is one of the most complete ref re: SW stuff.
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Right, which is why he agreed with you...

Although, complete as it may be, it's still third party, so I take everything on it with a grain of salt.  I'd still only use it when lacking a better first party reference, or it's directly referencing a first party reference.  Granted, due to the mass amount of information, odds are it's the only reference on a lot of subjects, so I'm sure we'll be using it heavily.
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What would you define as first party?  How about the people who designed the scene? (Richard Edlund, ILM)
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Yes, people who actually worked on it, which fall under it referencing first party material, or the movies themselves.  General speculation is not however, first party.
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And so when a first party source specifically identifies them as sensors:

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"A very large explosion is coming out of the bridge area and it's causing several others to go as well; and one of the big radar domes up on top has been blown away, and that's spewing flames."
CINEFEX #13, p.55, 3 February 1983
— Richard Edlund (who shared ILM's 1983 Academy Award for ROTJ special effects).


what do we say then?
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That confirmed first-party information is not canon. ::)

 

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How bout this....

Technically since they are supposed to be sensors, and the rest says
shields, how bout you just split it 50/50 and have both?

There are 2 globes after all....
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I don't know about having them be one of each, it just seems too odd since they appear identical.  I really only see either having both serve a dual shield/sensor purpose, or having them as sensors that are somehow poorly tied into the shield system, being a solution that satisfies enough of the information out there.  But whatever they are, let's spend a little more time telling brandx0 how awesome they look, so he has a bit more incentive to keep working on them, because they're coming along great.
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Meh.  They are sensor globes, and the outside is used as a projection surface for the shield generators, located under the the globes.  When one of the globes was destroyed, the power surge / EMI discharge knocked the shields out temporarily.

There's a theory for you, if you want it.  :p

 

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That confirmed first-party information is not canon. ::)

Says who ?
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Just to let you guys know, we staffy type people are working out how exactly we're going to impliment these, but we don't have a concrete answer yet.  Wait for it on the forums, it'll be coming up soon.  Until then, no more comment from me.
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Just to let you guys know, we staffy type people are working out how exactly we're going to impliment these, but we don't have a concrete answer yet.  Wait for it on the forums, it'll be coming up soon.  Until then, no more comment from me.

A certain CVS build that Goober released has a shield generator. When the 'shield' subsystem is destroyed, then the shield turns off.

Alternatively, you could do that for every ship using SEXP's in mission, but that would suck ass.

 

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I should have rephrased that.... we staffy types are working on what stance we're taking on the shield generator vs. sensor globe debate, is what I should have said...
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Re: Shield discussion (split from WIP)
you should say actually ISD Balls.   :D
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