[LT]

The only reason I've registered is because I'm suffering from a Frame Rate issue I can't seem to find any where.

I'm running the Retail version of Freespace 2, 20th anniversary edition on my pc with the most god awful frame rate ever.

My video card is a Nvidia 7800 GT, the drivers are up to date.
The processor is an AMD 64 3000+, 1 gig of ram and a K8n neo4/sli platinum.

The setup suggests high everything even before I detect the card * go fig *.

I run the game on or even off 98/ compatibility mode with the same sluggish frame rate. I william shakespear couldn't even describe the sheer pain I had on the demo, flying through the nebula.

From screwing around in the game I've found that the more ships are on screen the slower my frames get, I think five and I'm dead in the water. And thats just fighters.

I've done no real manipulation to the game as of yet, so if there is a patch on a server that doesn't require me being buttbuddies with file shack or some other corporate sleeze I'd be much abliged.

I haven't played Freespace 2 at all, but I played great war and loved it to death.

Also I'm hoping this post will leave a trail for other poor SoB's in my position.

P.S. Wow, remember when companies put time into producing large beautiful box art?

[FUBAR-BDHR]

Well this may be one possibility http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,53110.0.html

Also you should get FS2 open and give that a try.  Just use Turey's installer.  It doesn't mess up retail at all so you can always go back. 

[LT]

Testing right away.

I had problems running The great war recently too, but not in the past on this machine. Chance thats the problem.

[LT]

Well this may be one possibility http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,53110.0.html

Also you should get FS2 open and give that a try.  Just use Turey's installer.  It doesn't mess up retail at all so you can always go back. 

WOW, Thanks much.

This game runs like it did back in the old days on my 98, I can finally have some closure with me and freespace.

Again thanks.

[ShadowGorrath]

LT? What does your nick mean ?

[LT]

LT? What does your nick mean ?

much like why voalition doesn't host patches and fixes for its product, we may never know.

[Jeff Vader]

Retail FS2 is serious fun, but I'd still recommend you gave FreeSpace Open a try. Turey's Installer makes it easy as you only need to download it, run it and point it at your FreeSpace2 folder. It won't break anything, but it will get you a kick-arse game engine, positively stunning graphics, the ability to play the FS1 campaign and Silent Threat with the FSO engine and better graphics, as well as several high-quality usermade campaigns.

The reason why I'm recommending FSO is that it often works better than retail FS2, and your rig sounds like it wouldn't have any trouble dealing with at least the 3.6.8 Zeta MediaVPs, which, simply put, are really purdy graphics.

[ShadowGorrath]

In FS SCP ( Open ), you can turn on OpenGL ( which makes the game run with a much higher performance ) and etc. Download the exe files and the launcher for that ( no more than 5-10mb ). For good graphics you'd need the mediavps, which is quite large.

[terran_emperor]

LT's Nickname

LT ---> Same as BT in .hack//Sign

Favorite Food - Least Favorite Food

BLT - B = LT

.'.LT = Lettuce + Tommato

  

[colecampbell666]

Retail FS2 is serious fun, but I'd still recommend you gave FreeSpace Open a try. Turey's Installer makes it easy as you only need to download it, run it and point it at your FreeSpace2 folder. It won't break anything, but it will get you a kick-arse game engine, positively stunning graphics, the ability to play the FS1 campaign and Silent Threat with the FSO engine and better graphics, as well as several high-quality usermade campaigns.

The reason why I'm recommending FSO is that it often works better than retail FS2, and your rig sounds like it wouldn't have any trouble dealing with at least the 3.6.8 Zeta MediaVPs, which, simply put, are really purdy graphics.

Hell, he can use the .10 AdVPs with that thing. I can.

And LT, read this thread to get the most purdiness.

[LT]

Retail FS2 is serious fun, but I'd still recommend you gave FreeSpace Open a try. Turey's Installer makes it easy as you only need to download it, run it and point it at your FreeSpace2 folder. It won't break anything, but it will get you a kick-arse game engine, positively stunning graphics, the ability to play the FS1 campaign and Silent Threat with the FSO engine and better graphics, as well as several high-quality usermade campaigns.

The reason why I'm recommending FSO is that it often works better than retail FS2, and your rig sounds like it wouldn't have any trouble dealing with at least the 3.6.8 Zeta MediaVPs, which, simply put, are really purdy graphics.

Hell, he can use the .10 AdVPs with that thing. I can.

And LT, read this thread to get the most purdiness.

Okay so I'm downloading the Open thing because I am a tool and the idea of cherished game + Improvements = **** I always complain about not happening.

This and I am a whore for Duke Nukem hi-res pack.

So I downloaded Toreys, Turies.....Mr.T's Good for the install file and my god I can't say I wouldn't have chosen the same layout Mr. T. Then I'm sitting here, Mac Install bla bla? I don't own a damn mac so screw that. Oh god the useless OS X, throw that out and so forth. I saw what appeared to be a campaign that described something so juvenile that even I at age 15 would never dream of trying to make. Sure my **** was same old 3 cruisers vs 3 cruisers but by god atleast it was relevant to my interests.

I didn't have Freespace 1 installed, so I'm hoping that FS2's directory will be adequate.

On a side note, Freespace 2 was every bit of nastalgia and entertainment I had dreamt it to be. Who said sequals never live up to their expectations? **** YOU BUNGIE! **** YOU!

[Jeff Vader]

I didn't have Freespace 1 installed, so I'm hoping that FS2's directory will be adequate.

Quite adequate. But I hope you downloaded FSPort with Turey's Installer, since FSPort is a "mod" that allows you to play the FS1 main campaign with the FS2/FSO engine, making it, oh, so much prettier.

saw what appeared to be a campaign that described something so juvenile that even I at age 15 would never dream of trying to make. Sure my **** was same old 3 cruisers vs 3 cruisers but by god atleast it was relevant to my interests.

Well, actually the campaigns that the Installer offers to download are widely regarded as good. There is no newbish "kill all the lucifer's " **** in there. Some, like Derelict, also include voice acting. But if user made content really isn't your cup of tea, by all means, just skip them.

[LT]

I didn't have Freespace 1 installed, so I'm hoping that FS2's directory will be adequate.

Quite adequate. But I hope you downloaded FSPort with Turey's Installer, since FSPort is a "mod" that allows you to play the FS1 main campaign with the FS2/FSO engine, making it, oh, so much prettier.

saw what appeared to be a campaign that described something so juvenile that even I at age 15 would never dream of trying to make. Sure my **** was same old 3 cruisers vs 3 cruisers but by god atleast it was relevant to my interests.

Well, actually the campaigns that the Installer offers to download are widely regarded as good. There is no newbish "kill all the lucifer's " **** in there. Some, like Derelict, also include voice acting. But if user made content really isn't your cup of tea, by all means, just skip them.

1. My good man Mr. T seems to know literal definition. Dear Mr. T Damn your eyes good sir! one less thing for me to piss and moan about!

2. Deus Ex eluded my interest. As an Irishmen once said...."When I wants water, I drinks water. When I wants whiskey, I drinks whiskey"

[Jeff Vader]

Deus Ex Machina is one of the four known humour campaigns, with the other three being the Just Another Day trilogy. And they're all quite amusing. I'd recommend. Unless, of course, you don't like funny FreeSpace things.

[LT]

Deus Ex Machina is one of the four known humour campaigns, with the other three being the Just Another Day trilogy. And they're all quite amusing. I'd recommend. Unless, of course, you don't like funny FreeSpace things.

oh joy, I thought it was bad writing.

[LT]

Okay after running this installer and starting up FS2 I'm not seeing too much of a difference. Did it not deliver the good or am I not following an instruction?

[Herra Tohtori]

Well, what mod(s) have you selected?

Good way to check if mediaVP's are activated is to load up the Mainhall, then press F3 to open ship lab, and navigate to Ship Classes->Terran->GTF Hercules. If you see a pilot, mediaVP's are working; if not, you need to make them work.

Graphical user interface solution: Go to Launcher's MOD tab, and select mediavps as active mod. That will give you the new models and effects (and some other stuff) and you can use them in the retail FS2 campaign.

A command line based solution (and, in my opinion more useful and easy to use): got Launcher's Features tab (IIRC), find the Custom command line text window, and add the following words: -mod mediavps. The reason why I prefer this way of selecting mod folders is that I use *several* mod folders at once, and they change from time to time, so managing them with the MOD tab and mod.ini files gets really inconvenient, whereas with the custom command line I can just string mod after mod and not worry about mod.ini's... in fact I usually either remove them, or clear the secondary mod references from them...

...but for now, you don't need to worry about that since you're about to just use mediaVP's...

[Jeff Vader]

A command line based solution (and, in my opinion more useful and easy to use): got Launcher's Features tab (IIRC), find the Custom command line text window, and add the following words: -mod mediavps. The reason why I prefer this way of selecting mod folders is that I use *several* mod folders at once, and they change from time to time, so managing them with the MOD tab and mod.ini files gets really inconvenient, whereas with the custom command line I can just string mod after mod and not worry about mod.ini's... in fact I usually either remove them, or clear the secondary mod references from them...

Hmm. You do have a point there. I think I shall also switch to that technique.

[LT]

Well, what mod(s) have you selected?

Good way to check if mediaVP's are activated is to load up the Mainhall, then press F3 to open ship lab, and navigate to Ship Classes->Terran->GTF Hercules. If you see a pilot, mediaVP's are working; if not, you need to make them work.

Graphical user interface solution: Go to Launcher's MOD tab, and select mediavps as active mod. That will give you the new models and effects (and some other stuff) and you can use them in the retail FS2 campaign.

A command line based solution (and, in my opinion more useful and easy to use): got Launcher's Features tab (IIRC), find the Custom command line text window, and add the following words: -mod mediavps. The reason why I prefer this way of selecting mod folders is that I use *several* mod folders at once, and they change from time to time, so managing them with the MOD tab and mod.ini files gets really inconvenient, whereas with the custom command line I can just string mod after mod and not worry about mod.ini's... in fact I usually either remove them, or clear the secondary mod references from them...

...but for now, you don't need to worry about that since you're about to just use mediaVP's...

I've done that.


Opened little launch panel in my folder, Selected its origin after install, Select apply and hit run. I'm not seeing any changes.

[Jeff Vader]

Opened little launch panel in my folder, Selected its origin after install, Select apply and hit run. I'm not seeing any changes.

That's good but did you select the mediavps folder as a mod either by using the Launcher's MOD tab or using the command line parameters? If not, the game will look the same as it has always looked.