[Marcov]

I think the Meson's quite wierd. I detonated it and it had the damage only slightly stronger than a Helios. Is it really meant to be this powerful?? I mean, the thing is almost as big as a cruiser, and a Helios is even smaller than a fighter.

[Kie99]

It's damage is done via scripting in the mission.  It's useless if you just detonate it in FRED without using SEXPs.

[headdie]

classic use of the special explosion section of the ship properties

[terran_emperor]

Yes, and once you've fiddled around with the shockwave properties, it is "Guaranteed to blow anything up" well anything that can blow up

[haloboy100]

Except capital ships, though; they're not affected by shockwave damage, right? I think it's because of the big flag.

[stuart133]

This reminds me of playing around with the flags, and ending up with some very strange results.

[General Battuta]

Except capital ships, though; they're not affected by shockwave damage, right? I think it's because of the big flag.

I'm pretty sure the meson bomb takes out capital ships. Could be wrong, though.

[Droid803]

Shockwaves kill capital ships just fine. Well, even if they didn't die outright, they'd lose significant portions of health.

[TopAce]

Shockwaves kill capital ships just fine. Well, even if they didn't die outright, they'd lose significant portions of health.

Or funnier, it survives the explosion, but a piece of debris hits it and destroys it. It happens.

[IronBeer]

Shockwaves kill capital ships just fine. Well, even if they didn't die outright, they'd lose significant portions of health.

Or funnier, it survives the explosion, but a piece of debris hits it and destroys it. It happens.

In one of the JAD missions, the one where you need to destroy the Knossos, I had the GTD Sasquatch (was that the ship?) get destroyed before the meson bomb could be planted properly. The front prow of the ship was blown away from the explosion, crashed into the freighter carrying the meson bomb, trashed the freighter, whose explosion set off the meson bomb. The bomb's shockwave wasted the Knossos, and I won the mission. I don't think you could even script something like that.

[Droid803]

Oh damn that would have been epic to watch and lulz afterwards.

[Kolgena]

Wait, debris hit for -huge damage?

[Thaeris]

For that matter... do collisions count as huge damage? If that's the case, I think I might have to try something against a particular Shivan corvette in a Nebula that's down to 1% hull...

[Retsof]

That's the strange thing, collisions do next to no damage, yet flying debris can punch a hole through a destroyer.

[Dark RevenantX]

That's the strange thing, collisions do next to no damage, yet flying debris can punch a hole through a destroyer.

That's usually because the debris *explodes* when it impacts your hull. 

[haloboy100]

Could that actually be it? Perhaps the shockwave does huge damage and not the physical collision.

[Thaeris]

That might... be sensible...

If I recall correctly, one of the means of destroying the corvette I was alluding to was to use the EMP... which killed it with a shockwave... 

[Marcov]

Shockwaves kill capital ships just fine. Well, even if they didn't die outright, they'd lose significant portions of health.

Or funnier, it survives the explosion, but a piece of debris hits it and destroys it. It happens.

It's strange, though.

One time I tried to do a capital ship duel mission wherein you play as a Sath vs. an enemy Sath. I SEXPE'd the command to fire your four beams. My enemy was destroyed, and I probably got like 15% hull integrity left, but a f*cking piece of debris from my enemy hit me and I died. 15% hull integrity of A SATHANAS!!! That's like 150,000 hp! Proving that a juggernaut's debris can do 150,000+ damage. Debris hits are the most awesome weapon on Freespace, after all 

[stuart133]

150,000 hp from a single piece of debris?? The GTVA should have been building debris launchers instead of the Collie for those 15 years.

[Droid803]

The Collie is actually a wonderful debris launcher.
Due to it's odd center positioning, much of it pitches forward, making it quite a deadly debris launcher.