I want to put in my two cents here as well.
@ Aesaar First of all, faithfulness to retail should be the number one priority imo. And making a ship from a standpoint of the ship is **** seems like a very wrong position to do it from. This should be a labour of love to improve an existing model, not make sweeping changes to it because it's ****. Change too much, and if we use this as an example, it wouldn’t be the GTB Ursa anymore, it would be Aesaar’s GTB Ursa. It would have less
and more Aesaar about it. It wouldn’t be the GTB Ursa made by
it would be Aesaar’s version of it.
About the launchers, I too would be in the camp to keep them close to retail with the flat base for the Ursa to sit on, though I won’t be fussed if it stays the way it is, it’s not a drastic enough change to wreck the feel of the ship for me, I look at it and still see the GTB Ursa. Purely from a model standpoint than a retail accurate standpoint, I don’t think it makes the model better or worse. I don’t see the need to have changed it.
If you’re making a model as a personal project or to put into a mod that you’re creating by yourself, then the only opinion that matters is yours.
If you’re creating a model for a project that has a team, then the opinions of the team are also relevant.
If you’re creating a model that is for the Freespace Upgrade Project, then everyone’s opinion matters. Because it changes the core gameplay for all of us. You’re not making the model for yourself. You’re not making the model for a single mod. You’re making a model for the whole community, so it should meet with the community’s approval.
Who did he show it to on IRC exactly? People he knew would approve, his buddies, or everyone on IRC at the time? Now it’s been opened up to the whole community, and the trend is that the launchers would be better being changed to the look and function of the retail design. I can’t see this discussion on IRC. I question why even do IRC first at all when you could do it to the whole community, as it’s ultimately the whole community who should be deciding the fate of this model since that is who it is being created for.
@ The Dagger
I don’t think anyone’s piling on Hades. He’s not even in here yet to be piled on. The thread has got heated because people are being made to feel their opinion doesn’t matter or matters less than the opinion of certain people, largely thanks to Aesaar. And that retail faithfulness matters less than Aesaar’s subjective opinion on whether a model is **** or not. Without him, I reckon the atmosphere in here would be much more friendly.
@ The E
So it’s okay for IRC to comment on the model when he shows it to them, but when he shows it to us in a discussion thread we should just shut up and wait because it’s “too early” even though he has chosen to open the model up for discussion at this time? Better to voice our concerns now, than further down the road when he has wasted time and energy on something if that something isn’t going to be there in the final product or is going to cause his model to not get used as an Ursa upgrade.