[An4ximandros]

It needs to be at least this greeble'd:

[The Dagger]

@An4ximandros: That is not good, it's only noise, there's no form or flow. Hades' detailing is complex and beautifull. His modeling skills are put to a good use throughout the front of the ship, in contrast to some lazzy method of "I'll just make senseless bits to make it look detailed".

Now, if no further work is done, I do think the model will look unbalanced and, dare I say, rushed. Although normal maps may help, it seems strange to model every single bit of greeble in the front and use maps for the back. Go for the whole thing or keep it simple, but don't stop inbetween. That been said, let's just wait a bit and see what he'll do.

[Rodo]

I think An4x was being sarcastic Dagger.

[esarai]

I'm not necessarily in favor of 'greebles' in the sense of random details strapped on to the plates, I'd prefer to see them used to frame the armor plates, much like what was done in the front section.  This could even be as simple as adding a few trenches to space the seam between the distinct sections of the rear carapace.

[Buckshee Rounds]

Let's step back for a second and appreciate the fact that the past several posts have been telling Hades to both add AND take away some greebles.

Business as usual in other words.

[Luis Dias]

Well you know but on the other hand, and while we can say that however...

[Hades]

Rear has a bit more detail overall now.

[BritishShivans]

Rear armor thingies are looking great there! Not really sure about the back where there's no details on the two curvy bits, but to be honest I think it looks pretty fine.

[Kolgena]

Looks great. Ventral surface generally needs more detail, but I suspect it's because you haven't even started in those areas yet.

[Alan Bolte]

It works, but having watched a few Hades threads I expect to come back in a few days or weeks to see it looking even better.

[esarai]

YEAAAAH those look pretty swank.

[Trivial Psychic]

NOW she's starting to look detail-balanced.  While I like the "intakes" on the side and top of the aft segment, I am concerned that they there may be a few recesses there were fighters could hide, which may have an effect on balance where the player is concerned.  You may want to consider reducing the amount of accessible space there by reducing the depth of the recesses.

[Buckshee Rounds]

NOW she's starting to look detail-balanced.  While I like the "intakes" on the side and top of the aft segment, I am concerned that they there may be a few recesses there were fighters could hide, which may have an effect on balance where the player is concerned.  You may want to consider reducing the amount of accessible space there by reducing the depth of the recesses.

That shouldn't be a problem if it uses the same collision box as the default model which is what most HTL models do right?

[Rodo]

And hades does it again.

Nice job man

edit: I just noticed the intakes right behind the docking ports. AWESOME AWESOME DETAIL.

[Aesaar]

NOW she's starting to look detail-balanced.  While I like the "intakes" on the side and top of the aft segment, I am concerned that they there may be a few recesses there were fighters could hide, which may have an effect on balance where the player is concerned.  You may want to consider reducing the amount of accessible space there by reducing the depth of the recesses.

I think this might be taking "no upsetting game balance" a little far.

[Enioch]

It does. Seriously, let Hades do his magic.

[Alan Bolte]

I was thinking those were sensors rather than intakes.

[esarai]

NOW she's starting to look detail-balanced.  While I like the "intakes" on the side and top of the aft segment, I am concerned that they there may be a few recesses there were fighters could hide, which may have an effect on balance where the player is concerned.  You may want to consider reducing the amount of accessible space there by reducing the depth of the recesses.

I think this might be taking "no upsetting game balance" a little far.

If it becomes an issue, FS has a long and glorious tradition of invisible, collideable faces to keep fighters from going where they shouldn't.

[Hades]

NOW she's starting to look detail-balanced.  While I like the "intakes" on the side and top of the aft segment, I am concerned that they there may be a few recesses there were fighters could hide, which may have an effect on balance where the player is concerned.  You may want to consider reducing the amount of accessible space there by reducing the depth of the recesses.

That shouldn't be a problem if it uses the same collision box as the default model which is what most HTL models do right?

I don't think a single ship in the MVP uses anything but its LOD0 as its hitbox. Plus that wouldn't work most of the time due to different proportions due to detailing or changes by the artist.

[Phantom Hoover]

I also don't see how it could have any affect on balance, seeing as the AI is totally incapable of navigating around collision hazards.