[Valathil]

it will cast a shadow from the most intense beam or point light per ship + 1 sun but i cannot do more efficiently till we bump up the opengl version on the engine which is a project in itself

[jr2]

So... Valathil, do you have a twin?  More specifically, one that would be interested in coding said bump in opengl version for FSO?  If not, how do you feel about cloning?... what? 

[Kolgena]

Yes. Right now shadows are only being based on sun light sources. We want them to be cast by beams too. Shadows from explosions would be cool too, now that I think of it...

... and of lasers, and exhaust plumes, and glowpoints, and everything! Start saving for the new rig that's gonna handle it

We don't even have lights for plumes or glowpoints yet lol

Also, I thought this thread was supposed to be only about the current build and its testing, not about random stuff?

[Valathil]

yeah tell me about it

[redsniper]

Erk, sorry.

[Valathil]

Now with POINT LIGHTS

http://youtu.be/v4HWG7ilJ2M?hd=1

[Trivial Psychic]

 

[Valathil]

After carefully thinkin it through i probably wont do self shadowing for point and beam lights cause they are not so apparent but i can do all 7 lights and other objects casting shadows on ships instead which in my mind would be more efficient use of the memory and processing power

EDIT: Spoke too soon cant do my idea cause of stuff in the same position overwriting each other Maybe it DOES work have to think about it. Instead of a depth map using normal color texture and  render shadowers additive to red with the light num as a bitshift in a normal integer texture  and then checking in the shadow lookup if it has that bit set.

[Nemesis6]

Maybe it DOES work have to think about it. Instead of a depth map using normal color texture and  render shadowers additive to red with the light num as a bitshift in a normal integer texture  and then checking in the shadow lookup if it has that bit set.

Anyway, I've been playing around with the build a lot, and the only thing I've noticed other than what I've already reported is just the performance loss thing. If it means anything, it seems to manifest itself more when looking at very big objects like a Hecate class warship. The loss isn't permanent, which is to say that if I look away, my FPS will become normal. It doesn't seem to matter if I've close to the object or very far away. If I'm looking in the general direction of the ship that causes the lag, well, yeah you get the point. That's really all I can report. Not sure if there's anything new there, but I figured I'd just type it out anyway.

[Deadly in a Shadow]

So bad that there's only an SSE 2 build. My comp can't run SSE2

[chief1983]

If you don't have at least SSE2, you might not be able to run shadows at a playable FPS at all.

[jr2]

I guess that answers the question of whether I should ever try to run one of these builds on my Athlon XP 3200+...

[karajorma]

Given that the XP 3200+ can do SSE2 I really don't see how.

[Luis Dias]

Well.... it *is* an old rig...

[pecenipicek]

For you folks being unsure of the SSE2 support in your cpu, if you have an AMD CPU thats older than Athlon 64's or Intel's Pentium 4's, you dont have SSE2. EVERYTHING ELSE HAS IT.

[karajorma]

I did not know that. I thought all the older athlons supported it too. Guess I was wrong there.

[pecenipicek]

I did not know that. I thought all the older athlons supported it too. Guess I was wrong there.

i'm going from whats written here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSE2#Notable_IA-32_CPUs_not_supporting_SSE2


its about as accurate as anything else.

[Fineus]

I've got ahead and split the topic after this point into a new thread of its own to discuss hardware issues. Please keep this on the original topic (shadows in FSO, bug reporting, play testing, showing off awesome screenshots of it in action etc.)

Let me know if anything got accidentally mixed up, otherwise, enjoy and carry on folks

[Mad Bomber]

From a discussion with a friend on skype, on this subject:

[10:46:44 AM] Suralin: And they say fan projects can't match modern graphics.
[10:49:46 AM] (friend): never under estimate the power of fans
[10:50:08 AM] (friend): I'm sure they'd make giant cheese obelisks of this game too
[10:50:21 AM] (friend): if challenged
[10:50:47 AM] Suralin: Crap. I think we have to do that now.

[Cyborg17]

I'll start working on it right away!