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Offline Sandwich

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We really didn't want it to get to this, but a couple of recent events have forced our hand. First off, our webhost is sucking. Badly, as I'm sure many of you have noticed. We want it to stop sucking. We want a webhost that doesn't go down every few days - heck, that's why we left GameSpy's free hosting a couple of years back in the first place. However, a server that can handle the strain that HLP puts on a system, one from a reliable webhost, costs considerably more than we're paying now.

Secondly, you may have noticed a distinct lack of Google advertisements in the past couple of days. Google discovered that the account we were using was "connected" in some way to our previous account (which had been shut down due to fraudulent clicks) and shut it down as well. Our ad income had been enough to cover monthly costs (on our current, sucky server), and usually a wee bit more, depending on the month. Without it though, we're kinda up a creek without a subspace drive. We're not sure where to turn for advertising income (we'd rather have no ads than annoying, invasive, flashy, PITA ads), so if anyone has any suggestions, let us know - preferably some advertising system that doesn't require a US Social Security number, US tax ID, etc, since 90% of us are not from the US.

Therefore, without any further ado, we have decided to accept donations.

Finally, if some of you would like to support HLP on an ongoing monthly basis, please let us know what kind of sums you're thinking of and we'll get it set up (unfortunately, I cannot set up a monthly recurring payment button in PayPal where the amount per month is left open for the donator to decide - we have to set the amount ahead of time).
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Do you accept Euros?
How much money do you need?
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Offline Fury

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PayPal accepts at least US, Canadian and Australian dollars, Euros, Yens and Pound Sterlings. Optimally, and I say again, optimally we would love to receive $2400 every 12 months or $200 every month. However, $1200 every 12 months or $100 every month is little more than enough to afford at least a decent dedicated server.

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I'm under 18,but I'll do my best...
We are 4800,2 dollars per member(but I'm including non active members too).
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Offline Fury

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If you can and are willing to donate, even a small donation does help. :) But don't worry if you cannot. :)

Also, both HLP and GW admins are intending to come into an agreement to share a dedicated server because we both will have to rely on donations. If you want to donate, you can either donate to HLP or GW and in the end it should help both. It is possible that this joint-project won't succeed, but it is in our best interests to make it happen.
« Last Edit: September 03, 2006, 04:14:38 am by Fury »

 

Offline Kosh

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Any ideas how they (Google) found out about the ads?
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Offline Qwer

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Sorry, Poland is poor country, i'm from rather poor family, and even worse i'm not over-18. :doubt: All i'll be able to afford is one-time 1$. :p I'll send it after 2 weeks after parents will get their payments.
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Offline CP5670

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I could donate something as a one-off, but I don't think many people will be willing to do it every month. Can we go back to Gamespy? Even if the service sucked (although as far as I remember, it wasn't quite as bad as what we're seeing right now), it was at least free.

As for the ads, I have seen a system called Yahoo Ads that looks similar to Google AdSense (http://www.brickshelf.com has them, for example), so that may be worth a look.

 

Offline Goober5000

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If I recall correctly, you get a free $5 when you sign up for PayPal.  If you're a poor student but can sign up for an account, you could transfer us the $5 without having to spend your own money. :)

 

Offline Herra Tohtori

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Crap.

Visa Electron doesn't seem to be good enough a debit card for PayPal. :sigh: :(
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here in Italy we often use PayPal,but I can't do this...
I:Mom,can I donate some money for HARD Light Productions?
Mom:WHAT?HARD?

I:Dad,please give me the credit card.
Dad:*%*^&*!!!
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Offline BlackDove

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I'm pretty sure if I made a joke about your mom that is so obvious, I'd probably get banned so we're not even going to go there.

 

Offline Sandwich

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Any ideas how they (Google) found out about the ads?

Ideas, yes. Knowledge, no. I suspect that when time came to write the first payout check, something lined up with something else and went click.
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill

 

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I'm pretty sure if I made a joke about your mom that is so obvious, I'd probably get banned so we're not even going to go there.

Can you be more exaustive?
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Offline Col. Fishguts

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If I recall correctly, you get a free $5 when you sign up for PayPal.  If you're a poor student but can sign up for an account, you could transfer us the $5 without having to spend your own money. :)

A credit card is mandatory for PayPal, right ?

Well, I'd gladly pay several bucks for HLP, but I don't have a credit card, and getting one just for that seems a bit overkill. Is there another way to transfer money ?
Hell .... give us a post adress to send money in an envelope ;)
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Offline Blue Lion

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I'll have to see what I can do.

 

Offline TrashMan

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Could you belive I'm 24 and wihtout a credit card?

I knew I would need it one day badly and it looks like it has come.. Dang, better go get one.
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Offline Blue Lion

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Is it 1200 a year for an ok server? and 2400 for a good one?

 
Paypal UK accepts debit cards, including visa electron.

 

Offline Herra Tohtori

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How?

It just asks me to put in a credit card and I don't have one... I don't seem to find a button that says "Debit Card" on the user interface. :mad:
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