[General Battuta]

No there were definitely baked shadows

[Dragon]

Yes, but only on the city model. The surface mesh was tiled.

[Nyctaeus]

Seems to me landscape is one of the few places where tilemapping is better.  I suspect it wasn't before because landscapes without shadows look wrong, so they needed to be baked in, but that won't be a problem soon.

Someone tilemap the Moon!

Actually, the moon is tilemapped, there are no baked shadows. The tile size is just so enormous that you don't see it.

Change tile factor

[Darius]

Increased tile factor doesn't look too bad if there's a few hills and valleys to break up the repetition.

Less blurry swiss cheese moon.

[Androgeos Exeunt]

It still looks good, but any sharp-eyed individual will notice the tiles within seconds. This isn't a really big issue unless you get to see most of the moon's surface.

[The E]

It still looks good, but any sharp-eyed individual will notice the tiles within seconds. This isn't a really big issue unless you get to see most of the moon's surface.

You don't say. Hey, if you know a way to make a large slab of polygons like that look good without using a bazillion textures, why didn't you tell us?

[Luis Dias]

It still looks good, but any sharp-eyed individual will notice the tiles within seconds. This isn't a really big issue unless you get to see most of the moon's surface.

You don't say. Hey, if you know a way to make a large slab of polygons like that look good without using a bazillion textures, why didn't you tell us?

Is it possible to have two textures one on top of the other in any way?

If it is (and I mean in *any* possible way... perhaps Valathil could help us here), the effect can be substantially improved.

This is exactly how I deal with these problems when they appear in my architectural renderings, for instance with grass. I need both a very good texture up close but something else that stops the far away mesh to appear like a tiled carpet. I do this with two textures on top of each other, the one on top with 50% transparency. I use one texture with 1 meter (+-) in size, the second 10/100m in size (depends on the project). The first deals with the fine texture, the second deals with shades of colors, diluting the tile effect. The solution is perfect.

Is this anyway helpful? I know you can't simply put a texture on top of another, but perhaps with an effect?

[Dragon]

I see only one way to do it, and it'd result in massive z-fighting. Though this does sound like a good idea.

[General Battuta]

I am way more interested in mission design and story than in making my space moon dirt look good (this may just be me though!)

[Aesaar]

In the interest of simple solutions, I'd say obvious tiles are better than blurriness.   Darius' second picture looks just fine.

[rscaper1070]

That sounds like how Starshatter does it. There's a noise layer above the tiled texture of the terrain.

[An4ximandros]

Someone throw me in the general direction of the texture size needed and some moon references and I'll see if I can make a texture that hides the tiling better (I have an exam this week so this would take a while.)

Edit: also it would be useful to know the location of Luna city on the moon, is it in a mare?

[Droid803]

It still looks good, but any sharp-eyed individual will notice the tiles within seconds. This isn't a really big issue unless you get to see most of the moon's surface.

You don't say. Hey, if you know a way to make a large slab of polygons like that look good without using a bazillion textures, why didn't you tell us?

Using a MASSIVE texture

[mjn.mixael]

It still looks good, but any sharp-eyed individual will notice the tiles within seconds. This isn't a really big issue unless you get to see most of the moon's surface.

You don't say. Hey, if you know a way to make a large slab of polygons like that look good without using a bazillion textures, why didn't you tell us?

Yeah, the is definitely tough with how FSO currently works (lack of materials, etc.). One solution I'd try is by using multiple tiles that have the same repeat edges, but are different otherwise. With clever UV mapping, it could help alleviate some of the repetitiveness of just a straight tile.

Though, the only real problem I have with the latest screen is that all the craters are too perfectly circular. I just happened to have my Gmail open and it's background is currently of the moon. I looked and only a few of the craters were almost a perfect circle.

[Nighteyes]

Is it possible to have two textures one on top of the other in any way?

yes, the most simple way of doing it is to simply mix them in Photoshop and save them as 1 image and use it as the main texture, this will indeed fix the tiling issue...
only problem with this method is you can't really have any unique texture details, would be a good way to make the gray sand of the moon without those craters(better to model them in anyway)

[mjn.mixael]

He means in-game. Like using Composite materials in 3DS Max. That's not possible in FSO currently. One image/map per poly (excluding glow/shine/normal), that's all you get.

[Swifty]

Using a MASSIVE texture

Unfortunately John Carmack isn't on the SCP yet so we unfortunately can't implement MegaTexture until 3.7 is out.

[X3N0-Life-Form]

That's funny, not 5 days ago I was thinking it would be great to have MegaTexturing in FSO^^. So, which is more likely to come first: MegaTexture or Geomod?

[The E]

Neither. MegaTexture is a technology that, while neat, isn't necessary in FSO. Geomod is bogus.

[Dragon]

Just wait till Valathil implements both at the same time.