[Mars]

• The Deimos has the advantage of having an excellent fighter and bomber defense
• The Sobek has the advantage of having two excellent beam cannons, making it superior in a warship-to-warship fight.
• The Moloch has a fighterbay, on top of okay defenses and beam cannons, adding to its advantage
• Corvettes in general have been estimated (to the best of my ability) to have 1 and 2/3X to 2X the crew complement of cruisers, using several cruisers rather than one corvette may get the job done just as effectivly at a smaller cost in lives.

[Polpolion]

I am biased like crazy. I 'dislike' almost all non-terran ships.

[Mehrpack]

hi,
mhh the best corvette, mhh not so easy.

like you say all of this corvetts have advantages and disadvantages, i think military is there no real winner.

Mehrpack

[NGTM-1R]

Best all-rounder is unquestionably the Deimos. The Sobek is just weak really, while the Moloch gets dinged for its crappy anti-fighter defense.

[achtung]

Yeah, Deimos FTW!

[phreak]

I can do a strafing run on a moloch with maxims and take out half of its turrets.
The Sobek is really weak from the sides and bottom.
Deimos wins by default.

[S-99]

Yeah deimoses are very formidable.
They can handle their own on fighters and bombers and larger warships.
Deimoses also take a while to destroy.
The deimos also has a wide array of weaponry, flak, lots of laser turrets, AAA beams, and good placed big beams.
The sobek is a weaker vessel.
But, i've noticed that it's always deployed with a good fighter screen.
The sobek is completely awesome when supported with one or more fighter wings.
Also the sobek is in the "stupid dog" role for ships (the sobek thinks it's destroyer when it's not ).
Sobeks just keep taking on destroyers and bigger ships (if you remember the few missions in fs2 with the sobek and the sathanas ).
The sobek is highly effective also, but i just don't like it as much, but it is trustworthy to run to when you're almost dead.

[StratComm]

A sobek never directly engages a Sathanas, except when it is able to get into position to more or less be safe from the Sath's main weaponry.  And unlike a destroyer, the sobek could stay there.  As for going head-to-head, that would have been with a Demon.  And for its designed roll as an anti-capital ship without the size and cost of a destroyer, the Sobek is very capable.  It's when it's put against fighters (or generally out-manuvered) that it gets in to trouble, but then it's much like a destroyer in that regard anyway.  The Deimos is a better all-around, but has less hitting power head-to-head.  The Moloch, as its tech description implies, is really inferior to both and if it were not for the small fighterbay (which is too small to launch bombers) it would be worthless.

As for the crew compliments, a Sobek has a crew listing of about 3000, IIRC.  Most of us generally put the Deimos at a similar number.  Cruisers have crews numbering in the hundreds, so the crew differential is not a mere 1.5-2X but rather a whole order of magnitude.

[NGTM-1R]

The statement that a Deimos or Sobek can take out a Moloch is really kinda...debatable. The Moloch has fewer heavy beams, sure. They are also the vastly superior SRed.

[StratComm]

There's nothing superior about an SRed, especially in comparison to the Sobek and Deimos V/TSlash.  The Rakshasa, a cruiser, has more firepower in it's primary guns than the Moloch.

[Flipside]

I recall reading somewhere that the Moloch only really made it into the definition of Corvette because of its ridiculous armour levels. Other than than, it's more a 'Heavy Cruiser' by Freespace terms.

Personally I think the best Anti-cruiser ship is the Sobek, but the best for all round situations has to be the Deimos.

[Singh]

The Diemos, no contest.

Better AAA defenses, better Missile defenses, better hull armor, better primary beam cannon coverage. While a Sobek is a somewhat cheaper alternative and has a better assault head-on, with a smaller profile, it's extremely weak when attacked by any ship from the rear, and the hull structure, despite being strong, is still not all THAT strong. It also really doesn't have all that many more turrets than an Aeolus, which is probably better suited for Fighter support and anti-warship roles, and may even be a tad cheaper, too. The Deimos on the other hand, handles itself well against multiple opponents, has the hull plating to take a tremendous beating and is capable of taking on any Shivan warship smaller than it or the same size (save a Lilith) one-on-one and win.

[Nuclear1]

The Sobek and the Deimos are both nasty to attack, but the Deimos is just nastier to deal with. The Sobek has those two AAAf beams on the bow and two guarding the rear with flak to balance it all out nicely, but the Deimos wins by having AAAf beams all over the place and with four anti-capital beams. The Deimos just looks more aesthetically-pleasing as well.

The Moloch is just... embarrasing. Like Phreak said, a good Maxim run can easily disarm it, leaving it prey to any warship or bomber.

[Kosh]

The statement that a Deimos or Sobek can take out a Moloch is really kinda...debatable. The Moloch has fewer heavy beams, sure. They are also the vastly superior SRed.

The SRed is more of a cruiser beam. While it is vastly superior to the SGreen (what beam isn't except for the LTerslash?), it is inferior to the V/T Slash. 

Technicaly the Moloch has the same number of anti-capitalship beams as the Rakshasa, but they are not concentrated. It can only fire two of its beams at most at any given target (usually only one because it needs to be in a certain position to do it). While it can munch any GTVA cruiser, for a corvette it is quite weak. It's only saving graces are that fighterbay (which isn't particularly useful) and better anti-fighter defences (compared with other shivan capital ships). Even then it still is just bomber-bait.

[Jopi]

Had to go with Sobek, I deal with the fighters, they deal with the capital ships. Firepower ftw!

[FireCrack]

The Deimos, the other's just cant compete.


It needs some sort of mgreen instead of those silly slashers though...

[Roanoke]

I wanna know why the Lilith is so damn powerful.

[Wanderer]

To put it simply, LRed..

All other cruisers or corvettes carry much less efficient weapons

[antar05]

I really wished the Terran and Vasudan models had had fighterbays as well... I would LOVE to have been able to set a campaign aboard a Deimos.

[Polpolion]

Why de the terrans have a BIG beam, but shivans have a LARGE beam?

I really wished the Terran and Vasudan models had had fighterbays as well... I would LOVE to have been able to set a campaign aboard a Deimos.

There was one set on a deimos once.

Also in the mission with the Paracombe, Malstrom, and the Collosus, the deimos there 'deploys' a wing of perseus! How does that happen?