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Offline ARSPR

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FS2 data contents
on: May 27, 2007, 06:27:02 am
Because my doubts in this thread I think we need to post in Wiki how data structure works and which files each subfolder should have.

I think the best place to do this is removing Modding > File Types by a more comprehensive FS2 Data Structure or something like that.

I don't mind doing it with my little knowledge so more expert people will have a scratch to easily fix or update. As said I would start from my knowledge and from this info (a bit antiquated), Taylor posted somewhere sometime ago:
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Files are found in the following order and file type/extension filter per root (same basic rule applies to directories and files inside of VPs):

/   (mve, avi, mpg)
/data  (cfg, log, txt)
/data/maps   (pcx, ani, eff, tga, jpg, dds)
/data/text   (txt, net)
/data/missions   (fs2, fc2, ntl, ssv)
/data/models  (pof)
/data/tables  (tbl, tbm)
/data/sounds  (wav, ogg)
/data/sounds/8b22k  (wav, ogg)
/data/sounds/16b11k   (wav, ogg)
/data/voice  ()
/data/voice/briefing  (wav, ogg)
/data/voice/command_briefings  (wav, ogg)
/data/voice/debriefing  (wav, ogg)
/data/voice/personas  (wav, ogg)
/data/voice/special  (wav, ogg)
/data/voice/training  (wav, ogg)
/data/music  (wav, ogg)
/data/movies  (mve, msb, avi, mpg)
/data/interface  (pcx, ani, tga)
/data/fonts  (vf)
/data/effects  (ani, eff, pcx, neb, tga, jpg, dds)
/data/hud  (ani, pcx, tga)
/data/players  ()
/data/players/images (pcx)
/data/cache  (clr, tmp, ibx)
/data/players  (hcf)
/data/players/single  (pl2, cs2, plr, csg, css)
/data/players/multi  (plr)
/data/multidata  (pcx, fs2)
/data/config  (cfg)
/data/players/squads  (pcx)
/data/demos  (fsd)
/data/cbanims  (ani)
/data/intelanims  (ani)
/data/scripts  (lua, lc)
My suggestion is having a screen like flags screen with the next sections:
  • Introduction and data priority Brief explanation of data (and therefore vp) structure and a link to -MOD flag or something like that to explain data priority
  • List of data subdirs. In a similar way to the list of flags it will list all the data structure. I'd fill the subdirs I know (or I think I know) specifiying which kind of files they support and what are they suppose to have.
  • Exact loading order. More or less it would be Taylor's info. Some data could go (although it is a wrong mod design) in several folders (ie, ship textures are also read from effects). So this (updated) list could be useful.

If you agree with this, please change File Types or create a new page for me (with a link) because I don't know how to do that.  ;)
IF YOU HAVE TROUBLES WITH FS2:
  • Please, please, please, READ and UNDERSTAND the sticky threads in FreeSpace & FreeSpace Open Support board.
    A lot of people are willing to help you, but, as anyone can understand, seeing the very same "issues" repeated again and again can become quite depressing. Please, spend a bit of time trying to solve the issue by yourself.
    (Lobo deserves a monument).
  • Then, if you aren't still able to solve your issue, feel free to ask for help in that same board.
    FYI, most of the troubles are caused by wrong mod installations which lead to either missing data or undesired cross-effects between them. Always follow the mod installation instructions and keep a clean FS2 installation as explained in the sticky threads. Two additional links about how the game handles game data:
  • If you think that you've discovered a bug, mantis it.
    Provide as much info as you can, and try to narrow it down. A lonely "FS2 doesn't work" is not a good report.

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Albert Einstein: Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe.

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Offline jr2

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Re: FS2 data contents
Reply #1 on: May 27, 2007, 08:03:54 am
Log in to the wiki, then open this link:
http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php?title=FS2%20Data%20Structure&action=edit

EDIT: Oh, and put this line of text at the bottom of your page (I think):

[[Category:Modding]]

EDIT: To view his page (now in progress), click:
http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/FS2_Data_Structure
« Last Edit: May 29, 2007, 12:06:57 am by jr2 »
 

Offline ARSPR

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Re: FS2 data contents
Reply #2 on: May 27, 2007, 01:51:32 pm
Thanks.

WIP!!!  :pimp:
IF YOU HAVE TROUBLES WITH FS2:
  • Please, please, please, READ and UNDERSTAND the sticky threads in FreeSpace & FreeSpace Open Support board.
    A lot of people are willing to help you, but, as anyone can understand, seeing the very same "issues" repeated again and again can become quite depressing. Please, spend a bit of time trying to solve the issue by yourself.
    (Lobo deserves a monument).
  • Then, if you aren't still able to solve your issue, feel free to ask for help in that same board.
    FYI, most of the troubles are caused by wrong mod installations which lead to either missing data or undesired cross-effects between them. Always follow the mod installation instructions and keep a clean FS2 installation as explained in the sticky threads. Two additional links about how the game handles game data:
  • If you think that you've discovered a bug, mantis it.
    Provide as much info as you can, and try to narrow it down. A lonely "FS2 doesn't work" is not a good report.

Whoever Hanlon was: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Albert Einstein: Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe.

Dell Dimension 9200 - Vista 32-bit Ultimate
Core 2 Quad Q6600 @2.4GHz - RAM 2 GB DDR2
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Offline Wanderer

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Re: FS2 data contents
Reply #3 on: May 27, 2007, 03:10:43 pm
Very nice start on the page
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Re: FS2 data contents
Reply #4 on: May 28, 2007, 11:46:25 am
What the hell are ntl and ssv files?
Karajorma's Freespace FAQ. It's almost like asking me yourself.

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Offline ARSPR

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Re: FS2 data contents
Reply #5 on: May 28, 2007, 03:51:57 pm
Quote from: karajorma on May 28, 2007, 11:46:25 am
What the hell are ntl and ssv files?
You aren't asking me, are you?   :p


Well, more or less 75% done...
IF YOU HAVE TROUBLES WITH FS2:
  • Please, please, please, READ and UNDERSTAND the sticky threads in FreeSpace & FreeSpace Open Support board.
    A lot of people are willing to help you, but, as anyone can understand, seeing the very same "issues" repeated again and again can become quite depressing. Please, spend a bit of time trying to solve the issue by yourself.
    (Lobo deserves a monument).
  • Then, if you aren't still able to solve your issue, feel free to ask for help in that same board.
    FYI, most of the troubles are caused by wrong mod installations which lead to either missing data or undesired cross-effects between them. Always follow the mod installation instructions and keep a clean FS2 installation as explained in the sticky threads. Two additional links about how the game handles game data:
  • If you think that you've discovered a bug, mantis it.
    Provide as much info as you can, and try to narrow it down. A lonely "FS2 doesn't work" is not a good report.

Whoever Hanlon was: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Albert Einstein: Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe.

Dell Dimension 9200 - Vista 32-bit Ultimate
Core 2 Quad Q6600 @2.4GHz - RAM 2 GB DDR2
nvidia 8800 GTX - Integrated Sigmatel Audio
 

Offline karajorma

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Re: FS2 data contents
Reply #6 on: May 28, 2007, 04:16:32 pm
More of a general :wtf: than anything.
Karajorma's Freespace FAQ. It's almost like asking me yourself.

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Offline ARSPR

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Re: FS2 data contents
Reply #7 on: May 29, 2007, 11:48:19 am
Well I'm more or less finished. Please check it:

http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/FS2_Data_Structure
IF YOU HAVE TROUBLES WITH FS2:
  • Please, please, please, READ and UNDERSTAND the sticky threads in FreeSpace & FreeSpace Open Support board.
    A lot of people are willing to help you, but, as anyone can understand, seeing the very same "issues" repeated again and again can become quite depressing. Please, spend a bit of time trying to solve the issue by yourself.
    (Lobo deserves a monument).
  • Then, if you aren't still able to solve your issue, feel free to ask for help in that same board.
    FYI, most of the troubles are caused by wrong mod installations which lead to either missing data or undesired cross-effects between them. Always follow the mod installation instructions and keep a clean FS2 installation as explained in the sticky threads. Two additional links about how the game handles game data:
  • If you think that you've discovered a bug, mantis it.
    Provide as much info as you can, and try to narrow it down. A lonely "FS2 doesn't work" is not a good report.

Whoever Hanlon was: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Albert Einstein: Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe.

Dell Dimension 9200 - Vista 32-bit Ultimate
Core 2 Quad Q6600 @2.4GHz - RAM 2 GB DDR2
nvidia 8800 GTX - Integrated Sigmatel Audio
 

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Re: FS2 data contents
Reply #8 on: May 29, 2007, 12:58:43 pm
Thanks for that work.  :yes:  A lot of people will find the Data Structure entry helpful.
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