[K515]

I'm playing my Descent FreeSpace PC game that I got for Xmas, but when I use the cheats (~K to destroy these fast-moving enemy ships) in cheat mode all goes fine until I'm at the debriefing, but when I click on "accept" at the end of my debriefing, I get a pop-up message that says "you're a cheater. You cannot accept this mission/debriefing." I like this game very much but since my reflexes are slow the only way I can win the training mission dogfighting test or the first champagin mission (if I choose to skip training) is by resorting to cheat mode so 1) I won't get killed in a dogfight, 2) I can fulfil my mission objectives and win that mission. How can I disable this pop-up "you're a cheater" dialogue box and proceed to the next mission so I can play (and win) all the champagin missions in this game?

So, is FS2 the only thing I have to buy, or is there other stuff I'll have to buy (I hope not) in order to enjoy the Free Space series while using cheat codes without that "you're a cheater" dialogue box restriction?

Now that I have all these downloads, will I still need my boxed version of Descent: FreeSpace, FreeSpace: Silent Threat, and FreeSpace 2: Colossus? If not, can I sell them or give them away and reuse the downloads (after first making backups of them) including FS2 from GoG, for unlimited times?

I'm nearly finished downloading all of the stuff - I've downloaded all the mods and the stuff from the FilePlanet links. Tomorrow I'll download the Silent Threat: Reborn voice files and the ST: Reborn sectorgames. Don't know if I'll need the stuff from FilePlanet and the sectorgames, tho.

Where do I find the mediaVPs and the FSO?

Well, if I can get FS2 from GoG for 6 dollars which is the complete version, well why not? Then I wouldn't need my cut-down version of FS2 Colossus (it's a retail, boxed version that I brought in 2001.)

Could you please answer my latest questions I've asked in my latest post yesterday and in this post? I'd appreciate this.

Now I'm downloading the Silent Threat Reborn voice files and the sectorgames.

Why are there 2 download links marked "sectorgames" on the Silent Threat Reborn page but they are the same thing? One is is next to the ST Reborn mod link and the other is next to the ST Reborn voice files mod link, but why do they have the same label when I'm downloading them?

Ok, I've downloaded the Silent Threat Reborn voice files and the sectorgames.

Also, may I inform you that I'm going away in 3 weeks for 1 week, and when I return home I'll see about buying FS2 from GoG, ok? Also, thank you, karajorma, for offering to talk me through getting all these downloads to work after I get FS2 from GoG.

(these were from my post in the General FreeSpace forum at www.game-warden.com. I posted there last night and today asking these questions and didn't get them answered. Is there anyone who can answer my questions on this forum and help me?

Thanks in advance!

If you want, you may read this this post (actually a thread) at www.game-warden.com where I go by the same name as here - K515 - if you want background info on what this post is all about - please do so; I'd appreciate this if you do so.

P.S. Just now I've downloaded the FreeSpace Open installer, and the installer source code - is this the same thing as FreeSpace Open, or is the FSO installer separate?
 

[Cobra]

The only thing I can say to your post is that you take all the fun out of playing FreeSpace.

[Rhymes]

Okay
1.) There is NO way to avoid the cheat popup in retail FS1.  That's the point, so nobody just cheats through the campaign.  However, the FreeSpace Port for FS2 doesn't have this.

2.) FS2 is all you HAVE to buy, but you can buy the others if you want.

3.)  Turey's Installer will install most everything, but you need to download the Media VPs manually, since the installer has corrupted versions.  The 3.6.10 vps thread should be stickied under the FreeSpace Upgrade category, and you'll find the download in that thread.

4.)  What was your last post?

5.)  Idk why the ST:R files have the same name.

6.) Most importantly



And don't be mean, Cobra.

[K515]

Thank you so much, Rhymes with Psycho; I appreciate your sticking up for me. And thanks for the welcome, Rhymes with Psycho.

[K515]

4.)  What was your last post?

Here's a link to the entire thread:  http://www.game-warden.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7154
I have only 1 thread on that forum, and this is it. My last post is at the very bottom of that thread.

[General Battuta]

Whoakay. 'Sectorgame' is a file hosting site. It just hosts files, like Filefront, or Fileplanet, or Hades Combine (RIP), or FreespaceMods. There's no special kind of file called a 'sectorgame'.

[Rhymes]

Okay.  K515.

 http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/Getting_started

That's the getting started page, so if you have any more questions, you can look there.  Only thing is, when you download and use Turey's installer (there's a link in the Getting Started page to Turey's site) the 3.6.10 media vps don't download right, so you have to install FSO with the installer and then grab the media vps in this thread.
 
http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,58230.0.html

After you follow the instructions for setting up FS2 and FS2 open, play:
FreeSpace Port (FreeSpace 1 with the FS Open engine and graphics)
Silent Threat Reborn (an awesome remake of Volition's crappy expansion for FS1)
FreeSpace 2

IN THAT ORDER. You won't regret it.
Oh, and btw, you can just call me RWP.  I know my full user name is kind of a mouthful.

[K515]

Thank you, RWP. btw, is Freespace 2 - SCP Update Pack v2.0 100% free? I hope I don't have to pay for all the downloads on that page - but do I really need all these other *.rar downlods (are they free?) on that page that's listed underneath the Freespace 2 - SCP Update Pack v2.0 download link if I get FS2 from GoG as a download (I have to wait until May to get FS2 from GoG)?

Here's the list of other FS stuff that I've already downloaded:

My downloads:
fsport3_1;
fsport-awakenings;
fsport-awakenings-voice;
fsport-cardinalspear;
fsport-cardinalspear-voice;
fsport-destinyofpeace;
fsport-destinyofpeace-voice;
fsport-missions;
sparky_hi_fs1;
stu_fs1;
tango_fs1;
warble_fs1;
FreeSpaceOpen Installer;
InstallerSrc20081001 source code;

[Silent Threat: Reborn]
fsport-str;
fsport-str-voice;

[Silent Threat sectorgames]
fsport-str.

Are there any more downloads I need (not counting FS2)? If so, what?

[TopAce]

Everything's free around here. Feel free to download other people's stuff and play all the user-made campaigns. You can typically find links to them in their creators' signatures or any of the hundreds of thousands of campaign lists *cough* in the Wiki.

[Jeff Vader]

Here's the list of other FS stuff that I've already downloaded:

*snip*

Are there any more downloads I need (not counting FS2)? If so, what?

OpenAL
FreeSpace Open 3.6.10 RC1 (the game engine)
Launcher 5.5d
3.6.10 MediaVPs

FSO 3.6.10 and the Launcher can be downloaded with the FreeSpace Open Installer you already have. Not sure about OpenAL. The MediaVPs must be downloaded manually.

Install OpenAL, place the 3.6.10 .exes and the Launcher to \freespace2\, place the MediaVPs to \freespace2\mediavps\.

[K515]

Thanks - ok, I've just got finished downloading these:

fs2_open_3_6_10_RC1;
oalinst;
Launcher55d.rar;
MV_Complete.7z;
FreeSpace_2_SCP_update_v2 - The link took me to a torrent site. I hope I didn't do anything illegal by downloading this and not paying.

So, except for the FS2 from GoG, am I all set to go?

Oh, when I tried to download FreeSpaceOpen from the link that you provided for me, it took me to the fs2_open_3_6_10_RC1 download instead. Now that I have the FS2Open, where do I get the FreeSpaceOpen download?

P.S. I don't have a Wiki, and don't want one, thanks.

[Mongoose]

There is no "FS1Open," as the original FreeSpace's source code was never released.  However, installing the FSPort allows one to play the original game (and several ported user-made campaigns) in the FS2Open engine and take advantage of its features.

[Rhymes]

K515, the Fs2_open thread IS where FreeSpace Open is. That program is the modified game engine and .exe.   The term FreeSpace 2 Open and FreeSpace Open are used interchangably.  The 3.6.10 RC1 is the latest build of the engine. 

Also, as to your concern about this being illegal:

Before Good Old Games started hosting FS, the only way to obtain the files to run FSO was by downloading it, since eBay is expensive and the game can't be found in stores.  While this was technically illegal, there was no other way to get the game, and everyone considered it to be a bigger crime to let FS2 die.  After Good Old Games went up, all the free downloads disappeared, since GOG is dirt-cheap, and because the main reason FS2 faded off the industry map was because it DID NOT SELL, and this was our chance to remedy that.  Since then, the entire FS2 modding community has been totally legal.

In short: relax.

And yes, you look like you're all set.  All you need to do now is get FS2.

[Jeff Vader]

Oh, when I tried to download FreeSpaceOpen from the link that you provided for me, it took me to the fs2_open_3_6_10_RC1 download instead. Now that I have the FS2Open, where do I get the FreeSpaceOpen download?

FreeSpace Open == FreeSpace 2 Open == FSO == fs2_open == FS2O ...

You are now setting up FreeSpace Open and the FreeSpace Port. Ignore the original retail FS1 completely for now. It has nothing to do with FSO.

P.S. I don't have a Wiki, and don't want one, thanks.

Uh, wut. TopAce was referring to the FreeSpace Wiki, which has a lot of stuff. He meant that you should read it. You don't need to buy it or download it or sign any contracts. Just read it.

[K515]

Do I have to be logged onto the internet to play FSport, ST: Reborn, and FS2 using all these downloads (I hope not)?

[Jeff Vader]

For multiplayer: yes.

[K515]

Well, I don't want to use the multiplayer features at all; I want to stick 100 % with the single-player features - is this possible? So for single-player, even though I'll be using all of these downloads (including FS2), I won't have to be logged onto the internet at all?

Now I have a couple of questions:
1) can I play all of the FS1 and ST: Reborn missions without FS2?
2) can I play all of the FS1 and ST: Reborn missions using FS2: Colossus?
3) what problems may/will I experience if I try to play the FS1 and ST: Reborn missions using my cut-down version of FS2 (Colossus) or without FS2?

[Jeff Vader]

So for single-player, even though I'll be using all of these downloads (including FS2), I won't have to be logged onto the internet at all?

Correct. Like any other singleplayer game, singleplayer FS2 (or FS1 or FSO) doesn't require the Internet.

1) can I play all of the FS1 and ST: Reborn missions without FS2?

You can play FS1 missions with the original FS1. ST:R requires FS2 and FSPort.

2) can I play all of the FS1 and ST: Reborn missions using FS2: Colossus?

Probably not.

3) what problems may/will I experience if I try to play the FS1 and ST: Reborn missions using my cut-down version of FS2 (Colossus) or without FS2?

With FS2 Colossus: quite possibly problems trying to get it running, if it lacks crucial data that FS2 has but Colossus doesn't have.
Entirely without FS2: it won't run. At all.

[K515]

Just now I'm printing out "The Idiots Guide to Installing Freespace 2 Open Source *NOOB FRIENDLY* *WIP*" but part of my printout is cut off, even though I've used the forum's print feature. How can I fix this?

What does "Noob" and "WIP" mean?

Thanks!

[General Battuta]

A 'noob' is someone new to the community. General Internet speak.

'WIP' means 'Work In Progress'.