[Nico]

Originally posted by Corsair114


No! No mouse flying! Unless I can still use the normal joystick and keyboard layout for FreeSpace 2.

heh, why couldn't you still use them?

[Petrarch of the VBB]

Yeah.

You can already use the mouse, KB and Joystick at the same time, so why should it be any different?

[Knight Templar]

Originally posted by Corsair114


No! No mouse flying! Unless I can still use the normal joystick and keyboard layout for FreeSpace 2.

Yeah, that's lookin' real good. Can't wait to give it a try.

Whats wrong with the option of the mouse style? It's not like you'd have to click everything to get it to work, you could still use teh keyboard like normal...

[Grey Wolf]

I was actually referring to increasing the angle of the view. That would hurt your targeting.

[phreak]

the lead indicator is superimposed over your ship.
i need to make the reticle move for some accurate targeting

[Knight Templar]

Anything new to report on this?

(yea yea, I just don't want to see it die. I like the idea that much. )

[diamondgeezer]

*BUMP*

Right, I've been out flying my SA-43 and something has become very clear to me - we really need to be able to see what we're flying. Inside the cockpit, you could be flying any FreeSpace ship. Outside, you're flying an SA-43 Hammerhead jet fighter! w00T! Jump back in the cockipt, and it's just another ship again.

Being able to see your fighter in a decent 3rd person view would be cool, and a useful shortcut for modders like myself who have no ability to alter the HUD graphics. Could the coders please re-evaluate the suggestion (again)?

[phreak]

its in there. my latest build has it enabled. just press the asterisk key on the keypad

http://www.swooh.com/peon/phreak/fs2_open_r.zip

[diamondgeezer]

Testing now

[EDIT] Seems to work. Big up teh PhReAk massive!

[Knight Templar]

Uber. I'll play with it when finals are over.

(Oh boy, I can't wait!)

[GT-Keravnos]

Only one minor gripe... could there be a way for us to make computer-player's ship a little smaller.... (a way to make players' ship zoom in or out.) I understand that this may not be feasible, but then I just had to ask!!

My humble opinion is that it is too large.

Being playing Warzone 1.01 with the above .exe and am having a BLAST (literally!). I am 4 missions in that and NO PROBLEMS!!

For me this was the only thing I could possibly be jealous of that Starlancer had and we here didn't.

Now that this is getting settled, there is no turning back.

Will report back once I finish it. Then I will replay the main campaign.

Playing on a P2 448 Mhz (112 Mhz Bus) on a 64MB Ti4200 latest Nvidia drivers 44.03 or something.

[phreak]

use the + and - keys on the keypad to zoom

[GT-Keravnos]

Thanks for that PhReaK!

Another thing I have to report. On Warzone, (mission 7-8 if I recall correctly) where you defend the jump node and kill whatever comes through, you are flying an Artemis bomber. Rather than flowing (going left as you go right, and down as you go up) it stays put on the spot, stationary just follows the target. It keeps on moving (gamewise of course) but to the casual observer (and the player) it keeps on the same actual place. Stationary under the hud. I haven't seen this before with ALL the other models that I have worked with. I will try it again just to be sure I haven't done something wrong.

Either way, it has got to be a mod misplaced (in the previous mission there was a modded bomber where there is now Artemis).

But the fact remains. IT WORKS, I LOVE IT AND IT MAKES THE GAME TOTALLY REPLAYABLE FOR ME.

On another note... tell me freak your version of the exe, has it got ambient lights?

[Knight Templar]

ooh PhReAk, you are da man

[GT-Keravnos]

Well, it keeps happening, but a WAY OUT is found.

After heavy turning either left rigtht  up or down , your ship on screen "looses focus" somehow and goes up on the "default" position and becomes another part of the HUD. (It doesn't move, just sits under the hud doing nothing)

BUT,

Pressing TAB (or any other button or joy-button that is your AFTERBURNER) your ship starts moving again (ebbing and flowing, responding with inertia like grace to your movements).

Unfortunately, (especially after big turns) ARTEMIS loses it again and "defaults" dead under the HUD. Again pressing the TAB will set things straight, for a while.

What is important to note is that this kind  of attitude only works with the Artemis (so far)

If I was asked if I could work with that and if this feature works and percentage I would gladly respond. 92% is working like a charm and by pressing the afterburner button (default TAB) you can make the rest 8% work too.

So, if you want to try a different perspective prespective on FS2...

GO DOWNLOAD FREAKS Fs2 EXE (in page 1 or 2 of this thread) AND PLAY! IT WILL FEEL LIKE PLAYING A DIFFERENT BETTER GAME.

[GT-Keravnos]

Hmm, what was first recorded as a bug, remains one.

Meaning that sometimes the ship (on the 3d perspective) stops dead and becomes a hud extension, it doens't "flow" with  you like it should.

This happens as follows;

Randomly, but with more possibilities of it happening when you are flying a bomber be it Terran or Vasudan.
-For some unknown reason I cannot fathom it doesn't happen as much (nearly never) when you are flying a fighter.
-When it does happen, press the afterburner button (even momentarily) and you 're home free. It will "flow" again.
-When bumping on another ship, and vice versa the view defaults on first person.
-Same thing happens when a beam strikes you and jerks you silly.
--When using + or - to select the distance you want to see the ship from, sometimes your selection is forgotten and you have to reset it (I rate it a very small bug).

These are all I can remember right now. I will post more as I find them (but I don't think there  are any more to be found)

SO, it works 92% of the time, and when it doesn't press afterburner and it will.

[phreak]

i think what you are describing are the side effects of a bug fix to this problem when a ship's eye point is not 0,0,0
http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/scroll/misc/maahesoffsethud.gif
i was wondering what i changed would do.

[GT-Keravnos]

If I can read the picture correctly, it seems that the guns do not converge where they should - or that the shivan dissappeared. Can't really tell. However on plain (1.20) Fs2, when pressing the asterisk the same thing happens.

Without the HUD, sometimes (OK, a lot of times, more than in your .exe) your ship on screen stays "glued" to its place, when all your surroundings may move and in all directions. Pressing TAB over there works too. (How many times have I written that already ... )

[GT-Keravnos]

So, thanks all around for a job well done. (And that includes Icefire, even some years later)

General observations... Just that WITH DX8+ framerate seems to have fallen. (my system is a 448 Mhz, so I suspect that the ligths were too much for it, despite my sparky new GF4 4200's efforts to keep up.)

Other than that, only good things I can say. That thing is rock solid. (launcher that detects your card/resolution/what have you) is really cool!)

It takes the usual LONG time to load each level, but other than that (and the hit on framerates compared to 1.20, even when I disabled AA compeletely), all is good!

The only small problem that remains is the known unreadable text on GF4's, but that to me is "a new font"