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just a reminder, the new season of stargate sg1/atlantis and BSG will begin in just a few hours.
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OMFG0Z0R I CANT WAIT!!!!! Lol...go BSG!
Btw, my mom put forth a really good theory - GATA is the next Cylon :D
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it is now on.
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OMFG0Z0R I CANT WAIT!!!!! Lol...go BSG!
Btw, my mom put forth a really good theory - GATA is the next Cylon :D
I think I already called that.
I also suggested that BSG is the 13th Cylon. As in, the ship. Just you watch, one of these days a ship will be docking with Galactica, and the upper hull of the ship will start to glow red...
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I thought the torrents would be up by now. :doubt:
What aired first SG1 or BSG?
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SG1 - and OH MY GOD! Battlestar was WILD!
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I missed BSG because I was at a party. :( Anyone know when they're repeating it?
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Yeah, there showing the reruns on some channel called BitTorrent, foo'. It's on constant repeat.
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Never mind, it's airing right now. :)
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Why's the torrent only 278Mb?
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Not sure but the quality's alright.
BTW BSG was Fantabulous.
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Why's the torrent only 278Mb?
Because Cain whipped the empty bytes out of it :p
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*Watches progress meter*
"BSG211 - 19%"
*Twiddles thumbs*
"BSG211 - 20%"
*Taps foot impatiently*
"BSG211 - 19%"
*Curses, then goes hunting for a better download program*
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SG1: Better than I expected
SGA: As sloppy and borderline incoherent as I expected
BSG: Woah (although Cain seems to be getting painted as full-on 2-dimensional Evil Person, which is unfortunate)
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SG-1 was damn good. A little choppy at points, but I suppose it had to be - they were jumping from the SGC, to Dakara, to Chulak, to the fleet, to the Sodan....
And I'm not a fan of the Carter/Orlin thing. Seems a little forced. But then all of Tapping's emo scenes do.
But I'm really impressed with the level of emotion they managed, and that they got there without resorting to cheap tricks like space battles. The Teal'c/Gerak chat was ****ing awesome, as was Gerak's scene in the infirmary.
"I DIE FREE!" is right up there with "FOR THE EMPIRE!" and "KHAAAAN!" in my book.
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Pesky Ori wiping out your civilization? Call the Orlin Man!
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Spoiler:
I don't know about Cain's two-dimensional evilness actually - both she and Adama are willing to sink to equal depths to dispatch the other, one for apparent good, the other for apparent order. I think that's what the producers wanted us to believe at the end, at least. There are two outcomes for the next episode. One is where Cain gets a bullet in the brain. The other is where the Pegasus is somehow destroyed before the decision to fire comes up. I can't see the former happening, especially as Kara would likely be shot before she somehow escaped the CIC given the apparent loyalty of Cain's men. :)
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That wasn't a spoiler, it was speculation.
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The thing about Cain is that even though she looks like a 2D evil person, she makes sense if you look a little deeper. Humanity gets wiped out, so she sees it as a time that needs drastic measures and sacrifices. Everything is a life-or-death decision, and so the only way to defend against the Cylons is to preserve military efficiency at all costs.
As Cain probably sees it, those useful for the future have been integrated into the crews, those that would simply slow them down have been left behind.
If you look back in time to Ancient Sparta, you find a mentality no less evil - either come home victorious, or come home dead.
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How is that evil?
What right do you have to live in Sparta if you turned and ran when the tide of battle turned against you.
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My point was that she's still a realistic character. :p
If you want to get down to it, she's really just the girl in "The Hot Chick" taken to an extreme. But her question to Starbuck about getting what she wants...it makes her look even worse to the audience, because the rape and abandonment is what Cain wanted, but I think to Cain, achieving the end result is what matters. It shows ambition, determination, and capability.
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I've actually been confronted with questions regarding things related to her 2D-ness, and if you actually think, she really isn't;
My friend was complaining about how Adama never defended himself by saying that they tried to rape his prisoner. Among the other reasons, one of the main ones was that he had no basis, and she, technically, was completely correct: Sharon is a POW, and the colonial rules for POW treatment presumably only apply to humans; since Sharon is not technically a human, it is not applicable to her. Helos and the Chief that came to rescue her assaulted and killed a superior officer; something punishable by death. She makes numerous references to the colonial law, and in reality, everything she does is right. While the killing of the families may be over the top, she could justify it by calling them traitors and refusing to be drafted. But like I said, it's a bit over the top; that point is harder to justify.
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:nod:
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Ultimately, Cain's job as a Colonial military officer is to defend Colonial civilians. She's clearly abandoned that responsibility. That's what makes her evil. That, and the fact that every time she carries out one of her little summary executions, she's wiping out a significant percentage of the human race.
PS-- for the love of god, it's Gaeta, not "Gata".
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Sacrifice the hand to save the body. Machines have an inherent advantage, and in order to human to minimize the gap and have a chance of surviving, it is necessary for them to mimic machine efficiency as closely as possible. That means being absolutely cold, rational and ruthless. In theory, as long as enough of the population was present to ensure genetic intergrity in future generations, the rest are dead weight.
That's what bugs me about both the Matrix and BSG. The machines are vastly, vastly less powerfull mentality than they ought to be, because it is literally impossible for a human to outhink a machine of human-or-above intelligence. Even taking into account human unpredictability, a machine should be able to plan for every contingency far better than a human could.
And besides, Cain adds spice to the show. It's no fun now that Adama and Roslin are all buddy-buddy and the crew can pretty much do as they like. There's no conflict. What would be really interesting is if Cain actually succeeded in taking command of Galactica and ran things while Adama & Co went underground and staged some sort of coup. That, or Roslin getting a new body from the Cylon ship.
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Holy crap. This is the first honest-to-god time I've seen anything related to the new series of BSG. Why in hell haven't I been watching this series? I have got a LOT to catch up on. Now if I had broadband... grr..
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Holy crap. This is the first honest-to-god time I've seen anything related to the new series of BSG. Why in hell haven't I been watching this series?
Uhmmm... you live under a rock? Between the miniseries that aired in 2003, the entire first season, the DVD box sets, the entry of "frak" into popular usage, and the new BSG FS2 total conversion... it's the only explanation I can think of.
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...the entry of "frak" into popular usage...
Don't give too much credit to BSG... That motherfragging word was used around these parts during the last millenia... I think B5 gets much credit for that... Mr smilingface Sheridan used it couble of times I think, but BSG is just wearing it out... :doubt:
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Mmmm BSG...can't wait. Season 2 starts in a few days here! And Atlantis...Season 1...finally comes to Canadian TV. Although I've been cheating by having bought the DVD set and watching the episodes there. Its all new to me...LOVE it.
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Damn Sky for being so expensive. Oh well, I'm sure BSG will get shown on terrestrial sometime in the next million years :). I would have just bought the DVDs but I think 50 quid for half a season is just a tiny bit steep.
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...the entry of "frak" into popular usage...
Don't give too much credit to BSG... That motherfragging word was used around these parts during the last millenia... I think B5 gets much credit for that... Mr smilingface Sheridan used it couble of times I think, but BSG is just wearing it out... :doubt:
The word used in nerd, military (first), and... almost... barely making it into pop culture, and used in B5 is 'frag.'
"Abso-fragging-lutely!"
Frak was made for the original Galactica, and its becoming actually popular would be due to the current show.
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er... what is frak? :shaking: :confused:
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"Frak" is what BSG uses in place of "****", in order to add an element of authenticity to the characters' language while complying with content regulations.
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Frak is what they say when the TV networks won't let them say ****.
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Frak is what they say when the TV networks won't let them say ****.
:yes:
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...and used in B5 is 'frag.'
"Abso-fragging-lutely!"
Very true... But what is the big deal?
Anyway, the way BSG does it annoys me. If they have to swear, then do it properly, or don't do it at all. "Frak" is just faking it. Though my feelings might have something to do with the fact that Finnish language is much richer in "words of power" than english...
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I think it's an acceptable way to handle an old predicament: How do you make the situation feel authentic when the characters can't say what we know they would say? It's the future, so the language will have changed, making it entirely believable.
Although I think Firefly wins 1st Prize for its solution-- just swear in Mandarin.
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Anyway, the way BSG does it annoys me. If they have to swear, then do it properly, or don't do it at all.
Did you just skip half the posts on this page? The reason they say "frak" on BSG is because "****" violates broadcast standards. And no mild version of it would do-- the entire point of swearing is to say something offensive. That's why you don't scream "Rats!" when you hurt yourself.
So, in conclusion, frag you, you frelling mother-fracker.
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and of course they're all copying Father Ted. ;)
"Dougal! What the Feck is that?!!"
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Dammit, I want to see Father Jack commanding the Galactica now......... "Cylon!" "Feck!" "Arse!"
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and of course they're all copying Father Ted. ;)
"Dougal! What the Feck is that?!!"
What? Where? Who am I?
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What!?
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Actually, I've noticed on BSG that if the actors do it properly, you can't really hear the difference unless you're listening for it. Not all the time, but on occasion.
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Did you just skip half the posts on this page? The reason they say "frak" on BSG is because "****" violates broadcast standards. And no mild version of it would do-- the entire point of swearing is to say something offensive. That's why you don't scream "Rats!" when you hurt yourself.
Ofcourse I know why they say "frak"! But that does in no way change the fact that, to me, it still sounds wussys trying to sound though. :ick:
But thats not really your problem now is it? So **** you too and thank you wery much... :pimp:
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So it's like "frell" in Farscape?
So they'll show violence, guts and blood on TV but you can't swear... :lol:
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And no titties. Oh! may the gods have mercy on your soul if you let a titty slip by.
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Oh! may the gods have mercy on your soul if you let a titty slip by.
Truly a rule to live life by.
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Ok, I just watched the episode. Very nice indeed. ;) Here's my take on how the situation will be resolved:
This isn't just a spoiler for the already-aired episode, but it may be a spoiler for the upcoming one as well. Time will tell. You have been warned. :)
First part of the episode will deal with the assault on the Cylon ships, which will go relatively smoothly. At one point some hitch or another will come up, and Adm. Cain will have Number Six brought up from the brig for consultation. Possibly Adama will have Boomer brought up to Galactica CIC for the same reasoning. The humans will emerge victorious, the music will build up the tension as the "assasination" pieces all move into place on each ship. Starbuck will be very much torn in two, but something Cain does will push her over the edge and we will see her make the decision to kill Cain. But when that moment comes, they're gonna have Number Six make her move first, get her revenge by killing Cain (essentially commiting suicide as well) before Starbuck gets to her. Meantime, they'll make it look like Cain's Executive Officer is very much in conflict as well, making the audience think that the situation will be resolved by him backing down in the end. But he'll eventually decide to obey orders, like all the times before, which is when something Adama does in relation to Boomer - simply treat her like a human being, perhaps - will make the Pegasus' Ex.O. decide to come clean and tell Adama what had been planned. The episode will end with Adama giving the Pegasus's Ex.O. command over the Pegasus.
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And no titties. Oh! may the gods have mercy on your soul if you let a titty slip by.
Unless you're a celebrity, then it's called a "wardrobe malfunction".
And I prefer "frell" to "frak" personally.
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And no titties. Oh! may the gods have mercy on your soul if you let a titty slip by.
Unless you're a celebrity, then it's called a "wardrobe malfunction".
"Extra column inches" to use the technical term.
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Ancient books used to have swearing in Latin in the assumption that if you are intelligent enough to read it, then you won't be offended by it (and it wouldn't give the 'Great Unwashed' any wrong ideas).
Isaac Asimov used phrases like 'Ga-LAX-y!' and 'What in Space was that!?' it's a very very old custom to keep mainstream, and everybody knows what is really being said.
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spoilered stuff
Seems reasonable.
I'm betting my money too on Number 6 and the Pegasus's XO to play a pivotal role in the next episode. But I think the Pegasus won't be with us much longer. It's just not BSG anymore if there are 2 battlestars happily cruising alongside. The Pegasus will either be destroyed in the assault (I'm thinking kamikaze attack on the resurrection ship with Cain and her loyal crew aboard), or will leave the fleet during the battle like in the old show.
Anway, i can't wait for the next episode.
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This isn't just a spoiler for the already-aired episode, but it may be a spoiler for the upcoming one as well. Time will tell. You have been warned. :)
Plausible. But how would it be a spoiler as opposed to simple guessing, which everyone does...unless you have inside information from Sci-Fi.
Aha! You have been found out! The jig's up old man, best hand over your sources and this will all go smoothly.
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Take it from someone who does know what's going to happen. These are just some things that are a given, but they are spoliers nonetheless...
The battle will be spectacular, the Pegasus will survive. Cain will die at the hands of Six. A new commander will be installed on the Pegasus, and although i'm unsure of his exact identity, he won't be able to handle the command. Finally, Adama will be promoted to Admiral.
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Plausible. But how would it be a spoiler as opposed to simple guessing, which everyone does...unless you have inside information from Sci-Fi.
Aha! You have been found out! The jig's up old man, best hand over your sources and this will all go smoothly.
How about I do that after the next episode? ;)
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By the way (can't edit my previous post since i'm on my cellphone), am I the only one to have noticed - with great pleasure - the return to the pre-Pegasus music style? Either the change was just them testing the waters, or it was simply the "happy" sounds, which - until Pegasus - haven't had the opportunity to be used.
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I didn't notice anything, except the music did convey the emotion of the scene well. (Without it, it would've just been "Hey! Look! There's a big grey space turd sitting outside our port bow!")
Soo if it was testing the waters, it worked out well, methinks.
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The music reflects the mood. When they first saw the Pegasus, they were happy. The music reflected that. Then as they were about to fight the Pegasus, they were not so happy. The music reflected that too.
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I think Sandwich talks about the return well known darker themes used in the recent episode, in contrast to some new themes used in the dramatic climax of "Pegasus". Especially the string theme during the Adama-Cain dialogue ("I'm getting my men.") was significantly different (it reminded me of the Godzilla main theme of the 90's Godzilla movies).
That's all missing now in "Resurrection Ship", even in the flashback "previously on Battelstar Galactica" the music changed back to season 1 themes in that exact same scene.
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Basically, in the episode "Pegasus", they had different music styles than before, and - now - after. I'm pleased that they returned to the original styles they had been going with, since I didn't like the style in "Pegasus".
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Just finished listening to the podcast for this episode. Was surprised to learn that Resurrection Ship was originally a single episode, but it ran long, so they split it up into two episodes and shot some additional scenes to fill things out. The upside of this was that they (if I'm interpreting what he said correctly) got a full episode's worth of budget to throw at an episode that was mostly already created. So we're in for some really spectacular FX this week.
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The music reflects the mood. When they first saw the Pegasus, they were happy. The music reflected that. Then as they were about to fight the Pegasus, they were not so happy. The music reflected that too.
:lol:
Just finished listening to the podcast for this episode. Was surprised to learn that Resurrection Ship was originally a single episode, but it ran long, so they split it up into two episodes and shot some additional scenes to fill things out. The upside of this was that they (if I'm interpreting what he said correctly) got a full episode's worth of budget to throw at an episode that was mostly already created. So we're in for some really spectacular FX this week.
;7
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The upside of this was that they (if I'm interpreting what he said correctly) got a full episode's worth of budget to throw at an episode that was mostly already created. So we're in for some really spectacular FX this week.
Well, according to the battleplan, we're gonna see the Galactica and Pegasus tackling the basestars directly, with the big guns and all. Plus ALL Vipers will be out there too ..... I'm expecting quite some eye candy :nod: