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Title: Need a Job. Why not Iraq.
Post by: redmenace on May 10, 2006, 04:24:01 pm
http://jobsearch.usajobs.opm.gov/getjob.asp?JobID=42525626&AVSDM=2006%2D05%2D09+14%3A00%3A25&Logo=0&q=1102&lid=18200&paygrademin=5&paygrademax=11&FedEmp=Y&sort=rv&vw=d&brd=3876&ss=0&FedPub=Y&SUBMIT1.x=83&SUBMIT1.y=17
Title: Re: Need a Job. Why not Iraq.
Post by: neoterran on May 10, 2006, 04:51:42 pm
Wow, that's just, wow. I would never take that job. Course I'm british, so I can't.

Btw, Redmenace, any chance you can do us a new SSE optimized build like you used too.. it's almost been 2 months. and no-one else seems to be able to build the optimized builds...  :blah:
Title: Re: Need a Job. Why not Iraq.
Post by: redmenace on May 10, 2006, 05:28:38 pm
ROFL. Well I finish the semester on Monday. So between bf2crack and Graduation I hope to catch up on alot of builds.

As per Iraq, depending on what the danger pay is, I might consider it.
Title: Re: Need a Job. Why not Iraq.
Post by: Kosh on May 10, 2006, 06:19:20 pm
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As per Iraq, depending on what the danger pay is, I might consider it.


:wtf:

I'll assume you are just joking........
Title: Re: Need a Job. Why not Iraq.
Post by: redmenace on May 10, 2006, 07:34:02 pm
Actually I am not. Truth be told I have a few friends deployed there now. Depending where the work would be done is also important. If I had to work in the Anbar Province I would not go. I am certain that most work would be done in the green zone if in bagdad. But there were a few contract specialists from DCC-W that were killed by an RPG in their living areas.

I am just considering it. I am however, convinced that I want to do an overseas assignment though.
Top choices would be:
1. England
2. Germany
3. Belgium
4. Italy
5. Greece
6. Switzerland
7. Japan

If do some of these, I have to meet some of you characters over in Europe.
Title: Re: Need a Job. Why not Iraq.
Post by: Mefustae on May 10, 2006, 08:01:40 pm
I am just considering it. I am however, convinced that I want to do an overseas assignment though.
Top choices would be:
1. England
2. Germany
3. Belgium
4. Italy
5. Greece
6. Switzerland
7. Japan

Sif not come to Australia!
Title: Re: Need a Job. Why not Iraq.
Post by: Rictor on May 10, 2006, 08:18:18 pm
I'm sure you've thought this through, but stil...I question the wisdom of entering a warzone, quite probably the most dangerous place on Earth right now, to get a job. If you get an opportunity to go somewhere else, somewhere where you can drive down the street without sweating bullets, I say take it. Just my two cents.
Title: Re: Need a Job. Why not Iraq.
Post by: redmenace on May 10, 2006, 08:32:20 pm
I am just considering it. I am however, convinced that I want to do an overseas assignment though.
Top choices would be:
1. England
2. Germany
3. Belgium
4. Italy
5. Greece
6. Switzerland
7. Japan

Sif not come to Australia!
Well I don't want to get carried away by Dingos.
Title: Re: Need a Job. Why not Iraq.
Post by: Mefustae on May 10, 2006, 08:35:04 pm
Well I don't want to get carried away by Dingos.
Oh... that was just plain low...
Title: Re: Need a Job. Why not Iraq.
Post by: redmenace on May 10, 2006, 09:15:10 pm
 :p
Title: Re: Need a Job. Why not Iraq.
Post by: Kosh on May 10, 2006, 11:01:17 pm
Well. if you have a deathwish, then go right ahead. Be sure to pick out a good coffin before you go. :p
Title: Re: Need a Job. Why not Iraq.
Post by: Grug on May 10, 2006, 11:15:31 pm
Well I don't want to get carried away by Dingos.
Oh... that was just plain low...

Pfft, fine. We don't want you here! :p
Title: Re: Need a Job. Why not Iraq.
Post by: Deepblue on May 10, 2006, 11:31:15 pm
Well. if you have a deathwish, then go right ahead. Be sure to pick out a good coffin before you go. :p

I'm willing to bet that China has a higher average mortality rate than Iraq.
Title: Re: Need a Job. Why not Iraq.
Post by: Kosh on May 10, 2006, 11:45:28 pm

I'm willing to bet that China has a higher average mortality rate than Iraq.

Got any proof of that?

http://www.who.int/countries/chn/en/
http://www.who.int/countries/irq/en/

The adult mortality rate in Iraq is 4 times higher for men, and 2 times higher for women than China.

So what did you bet? ;7
Title: Re: Need a Job. Why not Iraq.
Post by: aldo_14 on May 11, 2006, 02:54:38 am
Well. if you have a deathwish, then go right ahead. Be sure to pick out a good coffin before you go. :p

I'm willing to bet that China has a higher average mortality rate than Iraq.

China has the slight advantage of actual hospitals and medicine and stuff, though.

Top choices would be:
1. England

What's wrong with Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland?
Title: Re: Need a Job. Why not Iraq.
Post by: Mefustae on May 11, 2006, 03:11:48 am
What's wrong with Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland?
They don't understand baseball, that's what's wrong!!
Title: Re: Need a Job. Why not Iraq.
Post by: aldo_14 on May 11, 2006, 03:22:31 am
What's wrong with Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland?
They don't understand baseball, that's what's wrong!!

No one understands baseball!!

Except Japan.
Title: Re: Need a Job. Why not Iraq.
Post by: Deepblue on May 11, 2006, 09:27:46 am

I'm willing to bet that China has a higher average mortality rate than Iraq.

Got any proof of that?

http://www.who.int/countries/chn/en/
http://www.who.int/countries/irq/en/

The adult mortality rate in Iraq is 4 times higher for men, and 2 times higher for women than China.

So what did you bet? ;7

Of course that doesn't include the state-run terror/murders/torture.
Title: Re: Need a Job. Why not Iraq.
Post by: karajorma on May 11, 2006, 09:31:51 am
Only cause Iraq outsources that to the US. :p
Title: Re: Need a Job. Why not Iraq.
Post by: aldo_14 on May 11, 2006, 09:41:33 am
Only cause Iraq outsources that to the US. :p

Little unfair.  They have burgeoning local sole trader market in it, too.
Title: Re: Need a Job. Why not Iraq.
Post by: karajorma on May 11, 2006, 10:04:35 am
Of course they do but the outsourcing does tend to skew the figures somewhat. :)
Title: Re: Need a Job. Why not Iraq.
Post by: aldo_14 on May 11, 2006, 10:22:20 am
Of course they do but the outsourcing does tend to skew the figures somewhat. :)

Typical in any growth industry.  Get some subsidies in and they'll be able to begin exporting again.
Title: Re: Need a Job. Why not Iraq.
Post by: Kosh on May 11, 2006, 10:40:08 am

I'm willing to bet that China has a higher average mortality rate than Iraq.

Got any proof of that?

http://www.who.int/countries/chn/en/
http://www.who.int/countries/irq/en/

The adult mortality rate in Iraq is 4 times higher for men, and 2 times higher for women than China.

So what did you bet? ;7

Of course that doesn't include the state-run terror/murders/torture.

The state run terror/murder/torture is more frequent in Iraq anyway. At least here we don't have deathsquads roaming around.
Title: Re: Need a Job. Why not Iraq.
Post by: aldo_14 on May 11, 2006, 10:48:57 am
The state run terror/murder/torture is more frequent in Iraq anyway. At least here we don't have deathsquads roaming around.

They're called 'police' rather than deathsquads, I believe.  Plus all that messy death is postponed for a few years of hard labour/slavery.
Title: Re: Need a Job. Why not Iraq.
Post by: Kosh on May 11, 2006, 10:56:21 am
The state run terror/murder/torture is more frequent in Iraq anyway. At least here we don't have deathsquads roaming around.

They're called 'police' rather than deathsquads, I believe.  Plus all that messy death is postponed for a few years of hard labour/slavery.

Almost all the time the police don't carry guns in this country.
Title: Re: Need a Job. Why not Iraq.
Post by: NGTM-1R on May 11, 2006, 10:59:05 am
Because unlike US or most European police, you can't give them guns, they'd use them. Because Chinese police are trained in the use of force, not restraint.
Title: Re: Need a Job. Why not Iraq.
Post by: aldo_14 on May 11, 2006, 11:04:06 am
Almost all the time the police don't carry guns in this country.

That's because they have a judicial system to sort out arbitrary punishments ("reeducation through labor", for example) or execution.  Far more efficient than rampaging gangs, and you can clean it up more easily.  Iraq is rather more disorganized; China is a big efficient corporation, Iraq is like an open air market.
Title: Re: Need a Job. Why not Iraq.
Post by: neoterran on May 11, 2006, 11:41:33 am
Because unlike US or most European police, you can't give them guns, they'd use them. Because Chinese police are trained in the use of force, not restraint.

Tell that to Rodney King
Title: Re: Need a Job. Why not Iraq.
Post by: Deepblue on May 11, 2006, 11:47:19 am
Furthermore, what about child mortality? Hundreds of babies found dead in the rice paddies can't help that statistic.
Title: Re: Need a Job. Why not Iraq.
Post by: Kosh on May 11, 2006, 11:55:50 am
I'm not going to defend the Chinese police, but the Iraqi police are just as bad.

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Hundreds of babies found dead in the rice paddies can't help that statistic

Where did you hear that?

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Furthermore, what about child mortality?

Child mortality rates in Iraq are in the 120's, while in China it is in the 30's. So again, it is 4 times higher in Iraq.

Title: Re: Need a Job. Why not Iraq.
Post by: Deepblue on May 11, 2006, 12:11:23 pm
I heard that from many people who have been to China on occasion.

I doubt those stats are accurate.
Title: Re: Need a Job. Why not Iraq.
Post by: Kosh on May 11, 2006, 12:20:08 pm
I heard that from many people who have been to China on occasion.

I doubt those stats are accurate.

I have heard rumors like this......but from people who I know for certain have never been to China.

So which province did this happen in?
Title: Re: Need a Job. Why not Iraq.
Post by: Shade on May 11, 2006, 12:35:31 pm
I'd say go to Denmark since we practically have negative unemployment and businesses are more or less begging for more people and will hire you on the spot if you have any skills whatsoever in the appropriate field. Except of course that the government, in it's xenophobic wisdom, has decided that foreign workers are not too terribly welcome, despite the fact that the lack people is starting to hurt our economy.

Sorry for the on-topic post, I'll let you get back to discussing child mortality rates now :p
Title: Re: Need a Job. Why not Iraq.
Post by: aldo_14 on May 11, 2006, 01:13:55 pm
I heard that from many people who have been to China on occasion.

I doubt those stats are accurate.

Yes, Iraq probably has a much higher mortality rate than that........

Seriously, the country has literally almost no hospital infrastructure, and is crucially lacking in basic supplies and medical equipment.  Even aside from the issue of hundreds dying from violence, it's practically a 3rd world infrastructure nowadays.