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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Kazan on June 05, 2006, 10:55:26 am
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http://today.reuters.com/news/newsarticle.aspx?type=oddlyEnoughNews&storyid=2006-06-05T133715Z_01_L05642927_RTRUKOC_0_US-UKRAINE-LION.xml&src=rss
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*facepalms*
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"The man shouted 'God will save me, if he exists', lowered himself by a rope into the enclosure, took his shoes off and went up to the lions," the official said.
Irrefutable proof of gods innexistence, ALthough god might be real and just weeding out the morons from society....... <Philosophical>
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and the Darwin award goes to.... !
thank you for removing yourself from the gene pool
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he _may_ qualify for the darwin awards because of his declaration - but normally getting mauled and killed by animals is too mundate
this article made me laugh out loud at work - literally
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F-in hilarious. What a complete moron.
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Am I the only one wondering why he removed his shoes? I mean the rest is just standard insanity but the shoe thing puzzles me.
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I read a story a couple of years ago about a man in Taipei who got bitten after trying to convert a lion to Jesus.
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In [formerly] Soviet Russa - lions hunt you!
Silly christians, lions eat you!
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Why always lions and tigers? Why not practice with cows first and work your way up to lions and tigers? :D
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Back in the day, they actually had to throw the Christians to the lions. Now, they seem to be much more accomodating.
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Am I the only one wondering why he removed his shoes? I mean the rest is just standard insanity but the shoe thing puzzles me.
Well, I think it's made very clear by the bits they left out the bible that God, really, really hates shoes. I mean, really. More than gays, or evolution, or people who don't say 'thank you' and park in disabled spaces and such. If you think Sodom and Gomorrah did badly from Gods Wrath, you should see what he did to the shoe factories.
And Jesus wore sandals, which really just caps it off.
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"The man shouted 'God will save me, if he exists', lowered himself by a rope into the enclosure, took his shoes off and went up to the lions," the official said.
Irrefutable proof of gods innexistence, ALthough god might be real and just weeding out the morons from society....... <Philosophical>
No it doesn`t, (about saying that was proof god doesn`t exist) it just shows the man was a idiot. All the stories in bible people read are about people that were led by god and thats why they were saved when they got into trouble Like for example Daniel and the lion. There was no reason for him to go down there. I`m even not quite sure if he was Christion. He could have been Jewish, Islamic, or morman. A clue is that when Chritions pray they say "In Jesus name" they dont`t say god. Also God doesn`t show up because one lone nut wants to see him. :)
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Also God doesn`t show up because he doesn't exist. :)
corrected for flamewar goodness ;)
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Also God doesn`t show up because he doesn't exist. :)
corrected for flamewar goodness ;)
Oh no you didN'T?!
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Also God doesn`t show up because he doesn't exist. :)
corrected for flamewar goodness ;)
:wtf: :rolleyes:
yay...
your just wasting my time now Kazan....
God doesn`t want to show because he nos Kazon is still on Earth.
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yup G0d ph34r5 me
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:lol:
I love this, seems like Christan fundies are just like Islamic fundies. A totally self-eliminating problem. :D
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LOL He's not a Christian Fundie though, a Fundie wouldn't have tagged 'if he exists' to that line.
I mean, seriously, if you're going to work along the lines of 'If God Exists', wouldn't it be wiser to do something like 'If God Exists, this Tennis ball I'm holding will fall up when I let go'.
You still look stupid, but it's a lot safer ;)
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Also God doesn`t show up because he doesn't exist. :)
corrected for flamewar goodness ;)
:wtf: :rolleyes:
yay...
your just wasting my time now Kazan....
God doesn`t want to show because he nos Kazon is still on Earth.
Oh ho, this is going to be interesting.
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Asbesto pants!
Get yer asbestos pants right here!
While they last! Limited supply only - first come, first served!
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Ooooh! They itch!
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Ooooh! They itch!
Oi, you, stop scratching your nuts!
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Sounds to me like this man was having a bit of an existential crisis.
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Sounds to me like this man was having a bit of an existential crisis.
Well, it's solved - he no longer exists.
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Well, at least he can deal with it on a one-one basis now ;)
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with this, i think that lions could take a spot on colbert's Threat list, maybe right below Bears
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Well, at least he can deal with it on a one-one basis now ;)
"You bastard, why didn't you save me?!"
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"You bastard, why didn't you save me?!"
cause youre stupid, lol
no rez 4 u
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How completely moronic do you have to be to do something like that?? Must of been a mental pacient or something like that!
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How completely moronic do you have to be to do something like that?? Must of been a mental pacient or something like that!
Methinks you'd be surprised.
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"The man shouted 'God will save me, if he exists', lowered himself by a rope into the enclosure, took his shoes off and went up to the lions," the official said.
Irrefutable proof of gods innexistence, ALthough god might be real and just weeding out the morons from society....... <Philosophical>
No it doesn`t, (about saying that was proof god doesn`t exist) it just shows the man was a idiot. All the stories in bible people read are about people that were led by god and thats why they were saved when they got into trouble Like for example Daniel and the lion. There was no reason for him to go down there. I`m even not quite sure if he was Christion. He could have been Jewish, Islamic, or morman. A clue is that when Chritions pray they say "In Jesus name" they dont`t say god. Also God doesn`t show up because one lone nut wants to see him. :)
Last time a checked mormons were christians... I have a couple of mormon friends and when they pray, they say "in Jesus' name, amen."
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mormons are technically christians
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Yes and no
http://www.bible-truth.org/arelds.htm
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God doesn't always move in mysterious ways, jumping into a cage with a Lion is going promote a very non-mysterious type after effect ;)
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I think it would be very mysterious of God to save him, then it'd be a case of "just who's side are you on God?"
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Ye shall not tempt the LORD your God, as ye tempted him in Massah.
Deuteronomy 6:16
I think this just about sums it up.
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Now, if he'd been hit by lightning before the Lion could reach him, then I'd have been impressed ;)
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Ye shall not tempt the LORD your God, as ye tempted him in Massah.
Deuteronomy 6:16
I think this just about sums it up.
yup, god is a cop out
:D
/flame on
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corrected for flamewar goodness ;)
/flame on
Are you trying to provoke a flame war?
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Yes and no
http://www.bible-truth.org/arelds.htm
That link has many, many glaring errors on the bible. Not to mention the entire site is...
well, you get the idea.
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Ye shall not tempt the LORD your God, as ye tempted him in Massah.
Deuteronomy 6:16
I think this just about sums it up.
Bastard, turning all of those beautiful bikini-clad women at Massah Beach into salt cubes.
Seriously, what the hell? I mean, the original Star Trek had a better special effects budget than this moron....
...and then you just go along with it:
"We don't really need women! Hey, let's wrap them up in tons of clothes so we don't tempt god. What the? A woman... in... pants? GOD WILL SMITE YE!"
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That's a morman bible, it has some... modifications. I'm not going to say anything other than, I wouldn't take it as a viable representation of most Bibles.
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corrected for flamewar goodness ;)
/flame on
Are you trying to provoke a flame war?
just being a pain in the ass
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Ye shall not tempt the LORD your God, as ye tempted him in Massah.
Deuteronomy 6:16
I think this just about sums it up.
Bastard, turning all of those beautiful bikini-clad women at Massah Beach into salt cubes.
Seriously, what the hell? I mean, the original Star Trek had a better special effects budget than this moron....
...and then you just go along with it:
"We don't really need women! Hey, let's wrap them up in tons of clothes so we don't tempt god. What the? A woman... in... pants? GOD WILL SMITE YE!"
# Exodus 17:7
And he called the name of the place Massah, and Meribah, because of the chiding of the children of Israel, and because they tempted the LORD, saying, Is the LORD among us, or not?
Ahem.
yup, god is a cop out
:D
/flame on
wow 0/2, you have lost your touch. :p
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That's a morman bible, it has some... modifications. I'm not going to say anything other than, I wouldn't take it as a viable representation of most Bibles.
Mormon bible??? It's the KJV. Second best version after the Greek.
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And I prove myself a fool thrice today :hopping:.
I just glanced, and at the wrong link, please ignore me and pretend I never, ever, ever existed.
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just being a pain in the ass
Okay, well keep in mind that intentionally provoking a flame war is a good way to get monkeyed. :p
And you're on your last strike too, so be careful. Debate is fine; flaming is not.
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Yes and no
http://www.bible-truth.org/arelds.htm
That link has many, many glaring errors on the bible. Not to mention the entire site is...
well, you get the idea.
Whats wrong with it? I gave it a quick run through and I thought it was good enough to get the point across.
That's a morman bible, it has some... modifications. I'm not going to say anything other than, I wouldn't take it as a viable representation of most Bibles.
That is bit of a step backwords. There is a big difference. Mormans have a extra testament in their bible. It talks about them haveing thier own world when they die. Thats not all whats in it but, I`ve got to go so farewell. :o
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Yes and no
http://www.bible-truth.org/arelds.htm
That link has many, many glaring errors on the bible. Not to mention the entire site is...
well, you get the idea.
Whats wrong with it? I gave it a quick run through and I thought it was good enough to get the point across.
That's a morman bible, it has some... modifications. I'm not going to say anything other than, I wouldn't take it as a viable representation of most Bibles.
That is bit of a step backwords. There is a big difference. Mormans have a extra testament in their bible. It talks about them haveing thier own world when they die. Thats not all whats in it but, I`ve got to go so farewell. :o
What?
Looking stuff up, standard mormon scripture is as follows:
The Old Testament (KJV)
The New Testament (KJV)
The Book of Mormon (what they believe to be an abridged account of the people on the American continent)
Doctrine and Covenants (what they believe to be modern revelation from their prophets as in the old/new testament)
Pearl of Great Price (translated scrolls for Abraham and Moses, apparently were authenticated/dated)
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# Exodus 17:7
And he called the name of the place Massah, and Meribah, because of the chiding of the children of Israel, and because they tempted the LORD, saying, Is the LORD among us, or not?
Seriously, are you people incapable of realising humor?
OMG!!! HE MADES FUNZ!!! MUST SAY ZE QUOTE BECAUSE WHEN HE ZEES IT HE WILL ACCEPT ZE FUHRER AND ZE MASTER FAITH!
::)
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# Exodus 17:7
And he called the name of the place Massah, and Meribah, because of the chiding of the children of Israel, and because they tempted the LORD, saying, Is the LORD among us, or not?
Seriously, are you people incapable of realising humor?
OMG!!! HE MADES FUNZ!!! MUST SAY ZE QUOTE BECAUSE WHEN HE ZEES IT HE WILL ACCEPT ZE FUHRER AND ZE MASTER FAITH!
:rollseyes:
No, just incapable of understanding dumb posts. :p
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What?
Looking stuff up, standard mormon scripture is as follows:
The Old Testament (KJV)
The New Testament (KJV)
The Book of Mormon (what they believe to be an abridged account of the people on the American continent)
Doctrine and Covenants (what they believe to be modern revelation from their prophets as in the old/new testament)
Pearl of Great Price (translated scrolls for Abraham and Moses, apparently were authenticated/dated)
You just made my life easier. ;7
Christions believe:
The Old Testament (KJV)
The New Testament (KJV)
While the mormons believe:
The Book of Mormon (what they believe to be an abridged account of the people on the American continent)
Doctrine and Covenants (what they believe to be modern revelation from their prophets as in the old/new testament)
Pearl of Great Price (translated scrolls for Abraham and Moses, apparently were authenticated/dated)
Mormons believed that the old and new had been currupted over so a guy named Joseph Smith revised them added many other books and wrote many Phrophices which turned out to be wrong.
http://www.exmormon.com/mormonism/falseprophetjs.htm
As you can see mormanism and Christianity are not the same religon.
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No, just incapable of understanding dumb posts. :p
It's only dumb to comedic mundanes. Plus you're just angry that you can't convince women to put that veil on, let alone participate in the Mormon sacred undergarmet porn industry ;)
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It's only dumb to comedic mundanes. Plus you're just angry that you can't convince women to put that veil on, let alone participate in the Mormon sacred undergarmet porn industry ;)
Looks like someone is in to something. What would your mom say about you watching undergarmet porn. :p
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Tread carefully, I hear the cry of Primates ;)
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IIRC, a Christian is anyone who believes in and follows the teachings of Jesus Christ...
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Tread carefully, I hear the cry of Primates ;)
Don't say that, he might try to 'intelligently design' himself better comebacks! ;)
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Okay, I think I know why he took off his shoes.
Did anyone see that movie 'Accidental Hero', the one with Dustin Hoffman saving all those people from a plane-crash and then not wanting to be a hero, but they find his shoes. Well, at the end of the movie, he's in the Zoo with his kid, and a woman starts screaming from offscreen that her kid fell into the Lion enclosure, and Hoffman's character is once again called on to be a hero [after shouting at the woman to find the damn Zookeeper or something], so he says to his son, 'here, hold my shoes', so as not to be identified afterwards, and the movie ends.
Not only was he a nut [although I can see the method within his madness], he was a movie-buff. Definitive proof that not only does God not exist, but that Dustin Hoffman created the universe.
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IIRC, a Christian is anyone who believes in and follows the teachings of Jesus Christ...
Exactly.
I think Kernal is trying to say mormons are not Protestants or Catholics.
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Concerning the distinction of who is Christian and who isn't, yes, you did come up with the common-usage definition.
Theologically speaking, however, calling the Mormons Christian is...suspect. They reject both the Nicean Creed and the Council of Nicea, which was devised/occurred well before the division of Christianity into sects. This is essentially to reject Christianity from its founding as an institution, and to reject much of the basic doctrine that pervades all forms of it.
Kernal is essentially correct. The Mormons aren't Christian. They may have some of the same book, but they subscribe to a completely different interpretation of it from everyone else.
*shrugs* Same diff to me. They following some of the teachings of Christ, and the broad definition of Christianity remains. They may be some type of break away yeah but bleh.
Ditto Deepblue.
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Uh, timewarp??? I don't see the post you quoted...
Whatever, back to the topic at hand.
This guy is (was) a freakin' idiot.
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No arguement form me! He might as well strapped a bomb to him go wandering through the desert and pull the trigger while asking for God to come and save him. Same effect-death...altough in rather different and more scattered way! :P
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Uh, timewarp??? I don't see the post you quoted...
Whatever, back to the topic at hand.
This guy is (was) a freakin' idiot.
I was PM'd it cause he's monkeyed.
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That's dedication.
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LoL yeah. :p
*shrugs*
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I know I always say this, but please don't ever claim the KJV to be anything resembling "good", "accurate", "the best", etc. As a translation, the KJV is bad. Yeah, it all sounds nice and King Jameth-y, but the accuracy is way off. Try the ASV for King Jameth-y sounding + much more accurate translation.
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i don't care what translation you swear by - they're all crocks of crap
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It kinda amuses me, Kazan, that you out-and-out lied in the thread title.
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we've gotten to a point in the evolution of the human race where religion is no longer necessary to instill morals in people, and is starting to have the opposite effect. we're in the transition phase right now. of course it makes sense that the religious will act in a hostile manner when confronted with this, but it'll pass. if not in our lifetimes, than later in human history.
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I know I always say this, but please don't ever claim the KJV to be anything resembling "good", "accurate", "the best", etc. As a translation, the KJV is bad. Yeah, it all sounds nice and King Jameth-y, but the accuracy is way off. Try the ASV for King Jameth-y sounding + much more accurate translation.
I respect your opinion, but I can't agree. What kind of bible you use is really between you and God, not you and me. ;)
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What I meant was that the KJV is probably the best english version available. Unless you have a different suggestion?
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actually the KJV is a terrible translation with a bunch of willfull mistranslations
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I wouldn't say KJ himself was exactly unbiased, but I have no idea about the translation, but it's apparent there are Criticisms (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KJV#Criticism)
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I read that too...
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In my country a man did exactly the same, however he don't claim anything, he do it without making any statement before jumping in, however there was no real interview after, so, maybe it's the same as this guy...
However he survived, the lions just store him as a snack, just a paw over him and he was defenseless as a baby, however he survived, as the lions didn't ate or harm him, the irony is that for the act he made it seems he wanted to die, but not suicide, even so he failed miserabily...unless he only wanted to drawn attention without harming anybody else...
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Except that obviously puts people at risk, what if somone tries to save you? If your going to take yourself out and make a show of it, go take pills and wander around in a crowded area away from a hospital.
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Nah, jump off a high building into a crowd, make sure you don't go to hell alone. :drevil:
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Except that obviously puts people at risk, what if somone tries to save you? If your going to take yourself out and make a show of it, go take pills and wander around in a crowded area away from a hospital.
Well that's not at all his problem, for various reasons, he didn't asked for help, and most important, he is supposed to be dead first, one doesn't enter intentionally in a place full of lions expecting to be rescued or just to step out and say "I am alive, god exist, and I am a moron", also if he wants he can make it again, and again, no one is going to stop him or anyone, that's the reason he succed in entering the first time, so...
Nah, jump off a high building into a crowd, make sure you don't go to hell alone.
:lol: That could almost be taken almost as an homicide, or an attemp at least, there have been cases where the suicide or jumper, has fall on a "victim", the suicide survives and as she/he absorbed part of the impact, it results more injured that the suicide itself...
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we've gotten to a point in the evolution of the human race where religion is no longer necessary to instill morals in people, and is starting to have the opposite effect. we're in the transition phase right now. of course it makes sense that the religious will act in a hostile manner when confronted with this, but it'll pass. if not in our lifetimes, than later in human history.
O RLY?
I seem to recall that Voltaire said something similar.
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I'd tend to agree with Turambar, except I think the human race might be going backwards.
...Voltaire...
Why is everyone more ed-u-makated then me? The only thing I know about Voltaire was that he was involved in the French reveloution, I'm not even sure if it was directly or indirectly.
Oh wait, your over 20
I still have a ways to go.
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People like hese idiots simply polute the gene pool of the human species. Not that the human species as a whole are woth much. From mi point og view actualy. The humans are not much better then animals and in many cases even worse. But still one can only hope for better human ace in the future.
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People like hese idiots simply polute the gene pool of the human species. Not that the human species as a whole are woth much. From mi point og view actualy. The humans are not much better then animals and in many cases even worse. But still one can only hope for better human ace in the future.
Just because I don't know about Voltaire? :(
;)
Well, I guess he's not polluting the gene pool anymore.
I'm sure everyone here already knows about them, but just a subtle reminder: Darwin Awards (http://www.darwinawards.com)
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Has nothing to do with you or with Voltaire Mars. It was a comment to the freaking idiot that got killed by the lions. Oh and a general comment at that since most of the human race is a very minor step above animals. Well at least some of them are above dont know about the rest. Dont take it personal guis this arguemnt is based on all the s**t that people make eachother go through like wars famine and all that stuff.
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I was... kidding (look at smiley faces / emotion icons)
:D
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Depending on what measure you're using, humans are a lot better than animals. I mean, we're delving into the obscure areas of the laws of physics, and there's almost nowhere on Earth we can't live. Most animals are only adapted to certain areas.
From another point of view: At least the animals don't completely screw up the environment.
See? 'Better' is a term that needs qualifying. It's being applied to a multidimensional field.
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we've gotten to a point in the evolution of the human race where religion is no longer necessary to instill morals in people, and is starting to have the opposite effect. we're in the transition phase right now. of course it makes sense that the religious will act in a hostile manner when confronted with this, but it'll pass. if not in our lifetimes, than later in human history.
O RLY?
I seem to recall that Voltaire said something similar.
"Dogma leads to fanaticism and strife; morality everywhere inspires harmony."
:)
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I think we all know what field I was refering to.
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Personally, I don't have a scooby what you're on about.
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err.. i was just refering to humans actualy beeing inferior tu animals. Why? Because animals dont kill eachother for the fun of it. animals dont torture eachother for the fun of it and they sre as hell dont comite stupid acts of suicide in the hope that some animal god will help them. Oh and they dont tras the planet the same way humans do.
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Bah... I personally don't find this as funny as many of you do. Reason provided next:
When I went to Finnish army, there was a guy in same company that went haywire after few weeks and jumped off the barracks roof after saying that God will save him. I didn't really know the guy nor did I see the event but according to quite reliable sources he did babble about God saving him even after he had jumped and regained consciousness... I don't really know what happened to him afterwards or how extensive his injuries were but he ain't going back into service, that's for sure.
So I wouldn't automatically rank the man stupid, more likely he was just some poor guy who got unlucky and flipped inside his head. That can happen even without the stupidity. Though the "if" word in what this lion lunch said before jumping is quite baffling... you see, the guy who jumped off the roof was completely sure that god existed and would save him. Well, AFAIK he didn't die so perhaps he indeed was saved... whereas the man who jumped to lions dared to doubt with the word "if" and hence wasn't saved. Though that's quite unlikely IMO... More likely it's just the barracks not being high enough to be as lethal as the lion that made the difference. :rolleyes:
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actualy know cases o someone falling off a 1.5 m ladder and died. And oanother one fell from a 1 m ladder and got pinned to a wheelchair while another one fell from the 4th flour of a building and got just 3 broke ribs. Hows that for ....er......i dont know what to call it. Its true i personaly know both the guy who got pinned to a wheelchair and the guy who fell from the 4'th flour.
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"Dogma leads to fanaticism and strife; morality everywhere inspires harmony."
:)
This I agree with. :)
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err.. i was just refering to humans actualy beeing inferior tu animals. Why? Because animals dont kill eachother for the fun of it. animals dont torture eachother for the fun of it and they sre as hell dont comite stupid acts of suicide in the hope that some animal god will help them. Oh and they dont tras the planet the same way humans do.
Um, on the other hand, the things that give us the capacity for doing stupid things are also what make us the dominant species on this planet.
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No arguement form me! He might as well strapped a bomb to him go wandering through the desert and pull the trigger while asking for God to come and save him. Same effect-death...altough in rather different and more scattered way! :P
"Lord, what should i do when i pull the pin?"
"Well, the standard operating procedure is scatter yourself over as wide an area as possible."
:p