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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Nuclear1 on June 11, 2006, 09:32:33 am
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http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/06/05/D8I28D8G2.html
The father of a Marine whose funeral was picketed by anti-gay protesters from a fundamentalist Kansas church filed an invasion-of- privacy suit against the demonstrators Monday.
It is believed to be the first lawsuit brought by a soldier's family against Westboro Baptist Church of Topeka, Kan., whose members routinely demonstrate at military funerals around the country.
More information here (http://www.matthewsnyder.org/) and in the PDF document here: http://www.matthewsnyder.org/Complaint.pdf
It's really about time too.
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Uh, this is probably a silly question, but why do they protest at Military Funerals?
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Westboro is extremely anti-gay, and believes that acceptance of gay culture in America will result in God's wrath being poured out on the country (they specifically use 9/11, the Columbia, and Katrina as examples of this), and that God is also killing soldiers for the same reasons.
They explain it pretty well at any (http://www.godhatesamerica.com) one (http://www.godhatessweden.com) of (http://www.godhatescanada.com) their (http://www.godhatesfags.com) websites. (http://www.smellthebrimstone.com)
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damn,
what did gay people ever do to them?
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Fed them quiche and sodomized them, presumably.
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Kansas is a worthless ****hole.
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Fed them quiche and sodomized them, presumably.
Never mock quiche. Quiche with bacon in it is awesome.
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Quiche, IIRC, is pretty good.
And why the **** are anti-gay protests happening at military funerals? :wtf:
Edit: Ahh, right, so they believe that terrorists are signs from God? That's ****ed up...
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The terrorists belive they're signs from God too.
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Makes you wish that some sort of divine intervention would take this group of placard-wielding lunatics and drop them in the middle of a gay pride parade just to see how long public restraint would last. Oh, and it'd be ironic too :p
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They'd probably just gay the hell out of them.
Go super-camp and watch the steam shoot outta their ears.
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Like I've said before, the fundis need their own planet that they can fight over and blow up.
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Like I've said before, the fundis need their own planet that they can fight over and blow up.
they might build portals to another universes
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It's really good to know people here are smart enough to know the difference between fundamentalists and idiots. :yes:
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Like I've said before, the fundis need their own planet that they can fight over and blow up.
Ah. Masada.
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they might build portals to another universes
A portal directly into the depths of hell, like in Event Horizon :D
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Like I've said before, the fundis need their own planet that they can fight over and blow up.
The last time that happened we got the Orii...
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It's really good to know people here are smart enough to know the difference between fundamentalists and idiots. :yes:
I'm not saying that fundis have no brains, I'm saying their brains are lying dormant, if their brains wake up, we can let them back to Earth.
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**** quiche
try my meatloaf, it kicks ass :D
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Wow. Must be some special meatloaf... :eek2:
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yes, its even better than my grandmas, and when your meatloaf recipee owns your grandmothers, you know you know how to make a ****ing meatloaf.
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Can it sing Bat Out of Hell?
Well... someone had to say it ;)
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Can it sing Bat Out of Hell?
YES
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No I won't do that.... nooooo, no I won't do that!
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No I won't do that.... nooooo, no I won't do that!
you'd better bloody not.
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Crazies are the spice of life, so more power to 'em. Imagine how dull the world would be if everyone agreed, if everyone was civil and caring and dared not express wildly contrversial beliefs. The Westboro Church guys are like something out of fiction, they're such cartoonish villains; it's refreshing to know that the world is still a wierd enough place to have them in it.
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i prefer mad scientists
they may push ethics, but they get stuff done
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And invent cool **** to strap onto sharks' foreheads like laserbeams, let's face it, they have style that the world needs ;)
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The best crazies, are the covert ones,
we they blend in to society and move around you us, waiting, biding their time. Poised to strike with their inflateable love hammers. crazy methods.
:wtf:
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http://www3.youtube.com/watch?v=1G470rfJQCI&search=Shirley%20Phelps%20ROper
Shows just how crazy the protestors really are.
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Actually, it is okay to be gay. You're just not allowed to take part in gay sex/"fantasise" about that stuff.
EDIT: or marry gay people/ heterosexual people or let your homosexuality affect your (some of your) disicions.
(according to my religious Roman Catholic beliefs)
:/
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Actually, it is okay to be gay. You're just not allowed to take part in gay sex/"fantasise" about that stuff.
(according to my religious beliefs)
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Riiiiiight. Why?
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I don't know. Go ask God.
Or the Pope.
Thats where faith comes in.
I think.
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I don't know. Go ask God.
Or the Pope.
Thats where faith comes in.
So how do we/you know it's not all made up?
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I don't know. Go ask God.
Or the Pope.
Thats where faith comes in.
So how do we/you know it's not all made up?
We don't.
It's called faith.
EDIT: Actually, I think one saint proved that God existed. He said stuff like " what created the Earth" then something like "what created the event that casued the thing that created the earth?" then "what created the Big Bang that caused the thing that created the Earth?" and he kept doing that until the only thing that could create the thing was an omni-potent/sciente deity.
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We don't.
It's called faith.
So would you stop someone else doing something because of it?
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What?
Do you mean make someone stop acting on that information?
We can't help if they interpreted the wrong information, or screwed up the information trying to make something out of it. These crazy people either know very little about Christian religion, or something happend in their life that made them change their ways or look at something in a crazy way.
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I think he means if someone wasn't the same faith as you, would you expect them to live by those rules?
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I share those Roman Catholic beliefs, but I don't think you need to follow them unless you're Roman Catholic (if you're gay, Catholicism probably isn't for you...but there are plenty of other choices).
Of course, I think all humans should abide by a moral standard of some sorts. Although this is VERY hard to define, I think fundamentalists have pretty much broken it (either terrorists, Christian fundies going too far as seen here, etc.).
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What?
Do you mean make someone stop acting on that information?
We can't help if they interpreted the wrong information, or screwed up the information trying to make something out of it. These crazy people either know very little about Christian religion, or something happend in their life that made them change their ways or look at something in a crazy way.
No...what Flip said. Would you hold it against someone?
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No, I suppose I wouldn't... *blag* still are Christan, in which all denominations have basicly the same core belifes, and (unless I'm mistaken) gays are included in that.
Okay, let's get this straight. No one likes gay people except for gay people. Under the Christan veiw of gays, God 'permits' them to be gay (the same way he 'permits' diseases, natural disasters, other horrbile events to occur), but they cannot act on being gay and must abstain from sexual contact. Muslims (sorry if I did not research enough and got it wrong) squarely do not like gays. As for the Jewish faith, Male-Male intercourse was(?) a capitol offense in Isrel, and today they view gays as very bad.
*whew
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Post too much... not enough time to edit posts...
No, I suppose I wouldn't... But they still are Christan, in which all denominations have basicly the same core belifes, and (unless I'm mistaken) gays are included in that.
Okay, let's get this straight. No one likes gay people except for gay people. Under the Christan veiw of gays, God 'permits' them to be gay (the same way he 'permits' diseases, natural disasters, other horrbile events to occur), but they cannot act on being gay and must abstain from sexual contact. Muslims (sorry if I did not research enough and got it wrong) squarely do not like gays. As for the Jewish faith, Male-Male intercourse was a capitol offense in Isrel, and today they view it as very bad.
*whew
I like gay people. They have to struggle with adversity and bigotry, yet seem not to want to blow up stuff or have angry pickets.
But so long as you don't, y'know, attack or hurt other people because of your beliefs, I'm not going to complain about you holding them. Vehemently disagree, perhaps, and oppose any enforcement of them, but not say you can't hold them.
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I spent several years playing in a band with 2 gay members, funnily enough, they never once tried to tell me how to live my life or what sexuality I should be, nor did they try to make me gay, I'm pretty sure they wouldn't know where to start :)
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I spent several years playing in a band with 2 gay members, funnily enough, they never once tried to tell me how to live my life or what sexuality I should be, nor did they try to make me gay, I'm pretty sure they wouldn't know where to start :)
At the bottom.
Sorry, sorry!
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No, I suppose I wouldn't... But they still are Christan, in which all denominations have basicly the same core belifes, and (unless I'm mistaken) gays are included in that.
Okay, let's get this straight. No one likes gay people except for gay people. Under the Christan veiw of gays, God 'permits' them to be gay (the same way he 'permits' diseases, natural disasters, other horrbile events to occur), but they cannot act on being gay and must abstain from sexual contact. Muslims (sorry if I did not research enough and got it wrong) squarely do not like gays. As for the Jewish faith, Male-Male intercourse was a capitol offense in Isrel, and today they view it as very bad.
*whew
I like gay people. They have to struggle with adversity and bigotry, yet seem not to want to blow up stuff or have angry pickets.
But so long as you don't, y'know, attack or hurt other people because of your beliefs, I'm not going to complain about you holding them. Vehemently disagree, perhaps, and oppose any enforcement of them, but not say you can't hold them.
I spent several years playing in a band with 2 gay members, funnily enough, they never once tried to tell me how to live my life or what sexuality I should be, nor did they try to make me gay, I'm pretty sure they wouldn't know where to start :)
Sorry, let me clarify "no one likes gay people". (by like I meant "ohh! gay people are my hero!") I meant "most people don't not like gay people". That means that ( I think) most people and indifferent about gays. (Sorta like how almost all Muslims aren't terrorists, but some people still view them as Ts) ( I don't view them as Ts)
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What's wrong with gay people? There are a few at my school, and they're well liked by students and teachers.
Catholic school btw.
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I didn't say there was anything wrong with gay people. I simply resarched the views of various mainstream religions and posted my findings.
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I didn't say there was anything wrong with gay people. I simply resarched the views of various mainstream religions and posted my findings.
Mmmmm, but religions are highly open to interpretation and ferverent belief is pretty rare in quite a few western countries.
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There is only one parish like that, and as stated in the video, it is pretty small. :)
It's a shame that a fervent religious group could be so fervent to the point of being wrong.
I am positive that if Jesus was here today He would look down upon them.
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Actually, I think one saint proved that God existed. He said stuff like " what created the Earth" then something like "what created the event that casued the thing that created the earth?" then "what created the Big Bang that caused the thing that created the Earth?" and he kept doing that until the only thing that could create the thing was an omni-potent/sciente deity.
That's not a valid proof. It's a poor thought experiment that makes certain unfounded assumptions, such as the assumption that causality has meaning outside the Universe.
Religions tend to be based upon what people see but attempt to explain what we cannot. Thing is, the way the world appears to work is only a subset of the way the Universe actually works, so such 'common sense' reasoning is pretty much useless as soon as it leaves our atmosphere.
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Well it was done over 500 years ago. ::)
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I remember that 'proof' by Saint Anselm - essentially, it is far from being an actual proof, and even he admitted it. Also, I would suspect we've come rather further in explaining the world than we had in the 11th C, when it was written.
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If we're all done now, can we get back to celebrating the imminent demise of the WBC?
At least if they actually manage to find the friggin' money this time...
EDIT: Dear god that spelling sucked. I really ought to go to sleep having been awake more then 36 hours now...
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Why were you awake for 36 hours?
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If we're all done now, can we get back to celebrating the imminent demise of the WBC?
/me agrees with this
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Why were you awake for 36 hours?
Felt like it.