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Title: other games
Post by: Kernal on June 17, 2006, 09:32:58 pm
Didn`t know where to post this sorry.

What other games do you guys recomend that is similar to freespace? :)

Happy Birthday to me!!!!!!
Title: Re: other games
Post by: Mars on June 17, 2006, 09:35:30 pm
Independence War II was kind of fun, but extremely boring at the same time.

Wing Commander was the major competitor for Freespace, but ultimately didn't mesure up in a lot of people's opinion.

Happy birthday.
Title: Re: other games
Post by: Kernal on June 17, 2006, 10:06:26 pm
Independence War II was kind of fun, but extremely boring at the same time.

Wing Commander was the major competitor for Freespace, but ultimately didn't mesure up in a lot of people's opinion.

Happy birthday.

What is Independence war about? Is the player a pirate or am I totally off.
Title: Re: other games
Post by: Mars on June 17, 2006, 10:10:47 pm
Why not just look it up?

Independence war (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-War_%28Independence_War%29)
Title: Re: other games
Post by: ZmaN on June 17, 2006, 10:14:00 pm
someone needs to make a list of all the decent space sim games and make a new thread and sticky it so everyone knows where to find them...
Title: Re: other games
Post by: Unknown Target on June 17, 2006, 10:53:51 pm
Why bother? There's only, like, three or four, maybe six tops.
Title: Re: other games
Post by: Herra Tohtori on June 17, 2006, 11:18:02 pm
X-Wing versus TIE Fighter (and the earlier X-Wing and TIE-Fighter), plus X-Wing Alliance. Though I must say I like XvT and other earlier ones better than XWA... even though you can get XWA look quite pretty via XWA upgrade project (which is somewhere in the Internet). XWA has a story... kind of. It's nothing compared to TIE Fighter story, though.

There was a "Collector's Edition" that had X-Wing, TIE Fighter and XvT together, with the former two being upgraded graphically to match XvT level. If you ever find it somewhere, get it, especially if you haven't played TIE Fighter through. It has a good storyline IMO. And read Timothy Zahn's Thrawn trilogy.

...

Why are you all staring at me like that? It's great fun playing XvT in multiplayer - yes, people still are doing that. You don't have time to spare for oggling at fancy graphics - though sometimes the über-supar-A1 class FX does cheer you up a bit...

Yes, I'm a Star Wars fanboy - even though everything made after The Empire Strikes Back has been slowly descending towards the steaming pile of Sith that ended the series. Honestly, the prequels could've been so much better if Lucas had just told the story to someone who could actually direct movies, like he did with both Empire and Jedi... :sigh:
Title: Re: other games
Post by: NGTM-1R on June 18, 2006, 01:27:01 am
Starlancer and Freelancer; Wing Commanders 1, 2, and 3.
Title: Re: other games
Post by: jr2 on June 18, 2006, 01:44:03 am
...even though you can get XWA look quite pretty via XWA upgrade project (which is somewhere in the Internet)...
http://www.xwaupgrade.com/
Title: Re: other games
Post by: Kernal on June 18, 2006, 09:28:34 pm
Hey has anyone played Nexus: The Jupiter Incident? It is a fairly new game.
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/nexus/index.html (http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/nexus/index.html)
Title: Re: other games
Post by: Ghostavo on June 18, 2006, 09:41:47 pm
Someone needs to move this thread over to the main forum.

And nexus is far from similar to FS. The only thing they have in common is having space ships.
Title: Re: other games
Post by: Kernal on June 18, 2006, 09:45:06 pm
I know I just wanted to know what you guys thought....
According to the review it is like Homeworld
(shrugs)
Title: Re: other games
Post by: Mars on June 18, 2006, 09:46:26 pm
Nexus apears to be a strategy game never played it, looks okay, but I just don't think it would have the same apeal for me, I'd want to take over somthing to blow up the damn bogie instead of watching the AI fail miserabley over the task

Edit Kernal posted first.
Title: Re: other games
Post by: Ghostavo on June 18, 2006, 09:47:22 pm
Nexus is to Homeworld what Ground Control is to Command & Conquer.
Title: Re: other games
Post by: Sarafan on June 18, 2006, 10:10:06 pm
Nexus is to Homeworld what Ground Control is to Command & Conquer.

That really is the best description of Nexus. :lol:
It's a really a gorgeus game to see with a good story too, but if you're going to play it, NEVER lose a single ship, it's just way too hard, took me days to finish it. On other space games, everybody here already said all the good ones.
Title: Re: other games
Post by: Prophet on June 19, 2006, 02:46:10 am
Nexus is good. And very pretty. The beginning is best. Those shieldless shoeboxes with spinning sections :drool:
Then came wussy shileds and stupid green alien ships that look like something I dug from my nose earlier today... And the AngelWing, :ick: Horrible design.
And the missions started to be too tricky. Too much thinking and clever moves and puzzles. Not enought straight meat and potatoes fighting. Same thing with Homeworld. I'd like to admire the garphics and fighters doing their death dance. But too busy trying to keep things under control and producing ships in to the grinder.
Title: Re: other games
Post by: AlphaOne on June 19, 2006, 03:31:23 am
Well dont know about you people but freelancer and starlancer seemed like decent ones.

also Nexus rock's big time. and who sais you can not go around bashing everyone?? Hell i did it I went with the Angelwing againts 2 batleships an one cruiser. and evntualy won the bloddy arguement with them manging to convince them while shoving hot plasma down they throats that parking in a no batlership parking area due to wide arse blocking the view up in front in and absolute truth.

but now seriously I did not find the game that dificult well not uless you count those what you call them with the sphere and stuff like that. Forgot theyr names. Also taking out the Erath fleet and Noah defence forces at the end was a way cool fun stuff. Almost got mi arse busted 3 times during that mission thatk god for sheald/engive overload.
Title: Re: other games
Post by: Fury on June 19, 2006, 06:52:43 am
Nexus is good. And very pretty. The beginning is best. Those shieldless shoeboxes with spinning sections :drool:
So true, the beginning of Nexus was like playing a B5 fleet tactics simulator. Orgasmic. :)
And speaking of B5: http://b5col.firstones.com/
Title: Re: other games
Post by: AlphaOne on June 19, 2006, 07:57:05 am
Umm cool that would also sugest there is a B5 game/movie out there with the same title or something like that. Is that right. I'm a fan of the B5 universe!
Title: Re: other games
Post by: Fury on June 19, 2006, 08:59:24 am
There's no official B5 game, movie, series or book of that name.
Title: Re: other games
Post by: Colonol Dekker on June 19, 2006, 09:10:29 am
Nice one Fury, I had an idea that there would be a worthwhile mod for Nexus, The game uses only LWO files with light points marking subsys locations and xls sheets for .TBL equivalents.

But now youve pointed me towards this i think it may be time to dust the Stiletto off and get ready for COL...
Title: Re: other games
Post by: Wobble73 on June 19, 2006, 09:56:08 am
X-Beyond the Frontier, X2-the Threat and X3. They are a bit Build a space empire though but there is a few battles/missions, slow to build up to them unless you cheat and build your money that way, then you need a map to find your way from system to system to find the best places to buy the best weapons for your ships. Takes a while, only played the first for a few hundred hours until I could get the FS2 disks. Not looked back since. Mmmmm may dust it off tonight for a play?
Title: Re: other games
Post by: Colonol Dekker on June 19, 2006, 10:02:22 am
Its one hungry motha though, My rigs quite beefy but X3 runs like a one legged horse with arthritis and athletes foot. Although i got my Argon battleship Base of operations and Fleets on auutopatrol/pilot.

I do like the fact i can eject and re-enter any other fighters cruisers etc i have flitting about though. (i have a telporter but EVA = fun)
Title: Re: other games
Post by: NGTM-1R on June 19, 2006, 10:36:07 am
Nexus is to Homeworld what Ground Control is to Command & Conquer.

Ground Control was fun. Nexus was rather blah (and Ground Control did not have any missions which I failed worse every attempt). Although the analogy might hold better plot-wise.
Title: Re: other games
Post by: Colonol Dekker on June 19, 2006, 10:38:18 am
Nexus is like a battleship  simulator in space, I hold tru to that description. HW is an RTS, In NEX you have no resources in-mission, and you dont directly control the ships under your command. Just issue orders and hope for the best...
Title: Re: other games
Post by: Sarafan on June 19, 2006, 12:23:35 pm
Why doesnt someone does a Freespace mod for Nexus? It would be incredible.
Title: Re: other games
Post by: Shade on June 19, 2006, 12:26:41 pm
Mmmm... Tie Fighter. Great story in that game, at the end you really do think of the rebels as the scum they are, and understand why the empire is needed as a force of peace and order in the galaxy.
Title: Re: other games
Post by: NGTM-1R on June 19, 2006, 02:05:12 pm
Why doesnt someone does a Freespace mod for Nexus? It would be incredible.

'cuz Nexus handles weapons so vastly differently it just wouldn't work.
Title: Re: other games
Post by: Sarafan on June 19, 2006, 02:12:44 pm
Why doesnt someone does a Freespace mod for Nexus? It would be incredible.

'cuz Nexus handles weapons so vastly differently it just wouldn't work.


What fo you mean?
Title: Re: other games
Post by: Colonol Dekker on June 20, 2006, 03:32:33 am
LOL Nexus has bemas, Torps, and Energy/mass guns, It wouldnt be tht hard.
You even get a ST mod with the game (one mission albeit) but its got Photon torps and Phasers.

It would be quite moddable if the mission editor wasnt so wank.
Title: Re: other games
Post by: NGTM-1R on June 20, 2006, 07:11:39 am
What fo you mean?

Nexus' way of handling fields of fire and soforth makes it impractical. There's a reason none of the ships in the original had visible turrets, the game isn't set up to support them.
Title: Re: other games
Post by: Prophet on June 20, 2006, 07:28:39 am
Nexus' way of handling fields of fire and soforth makes it impractical. There's a reason none of the ships in the original had visible turrets, the game isn't set up to support them.
Since I have seen visible turrets in the game I am understandably confused :confused:
If you would be so kind as to explain what you are on?
Title: Re: other games
Post by: Nuclear1 on June 20, 2006, 10:47:56 am
Why doesnt someone does a Freespace mod for Nexus? It would be incredible.

The only problem that I see is that Freespace would have to be scaled down significantly in terms of the number of turrets each ship has, especially if the player likes micromanaging what specific turrets fire at any given time.

But a FS mod would be excellent indeed.
Title: Re: other games
Post by: Colonol Dekker on June 20, 2006, 10:52:06 am
Right whos good with Lightwave and Excell  ??   :nervous:

[for legal reasons Colonol Dekker is not allowed with fifteen feet of an active Nexus mod Please do not allow him anywhere near the beginnings of such a project]


Go to it People !!!!!!!!
Title: Re: other games
Post by: Kernal on June 20, 2006, 01:48:34 pm
I got The Original Homeworld acouple of months ago and I finally got enough free time to finish it. (Almost done! Misson 14 :)) So I`m decideing between Homeworld2 or Nexus. Which one is better?

 I looked at all the other games and none seemed to appeal more to me then these two. Sorry. :P

Title: Re: other games
Post by: Wanderer on June 20, 2006, 02:17:43 pm
Homeworld 2... by large margin. As said some elsewhere Nexus is actually very interesting for the first few missions until the big 'suprise' but after that is not that interesting.
Title: Re: other games
Post by: Nuclear1 on June 20, 2006, 02:18:46 pm
I got The Original Homeworld acouple of months ago and I finally got enough free time to finish it. (Almost done! Misson 14 :)) So I`m decideing between Homeworld2 or Nexus. Which one is better?

 I looked at all the other games and none seemed to appeal more to me then these two. Sorry. :P



I prefer Nexus to Homeworld 2, but it's an unfair comparison considering one is full RTS while the other isn't.

On a side note, you can really get a huge fleet boost in Mission 14 if you know how to work it just right. I actually remember leaving that mission with an extra 120 Ion Frigates, which made the next two levels exceptionally easy. :p
Title: Re: other games
Post by: Kernal on June 20, 2006, 02:29:41 pm
I got The Original Homeworld acouple of months ago and I finally got enough free time to finish it. (Almost done! Misson 14 :)) So I`m decideing between Homeworld2 or Nexus. Which one is better?

 I looked at all the other games and none seemed to appeal more to me then these two. Sorry. :P



I prefer Nexus to Homeworld 2, but it's an unfair comparison considering one is full RTS while the other isn't.

On a side note, you can really get a huge fleet boost in Mission 14 if you know how to work it just right. I actually remember leaving that mission with an extra 120 Ion Frigates, which made the next two levels exceptionally easy. :p

(Drops mouth) 120 freakin Frigits!?!?! I have like 7. I suck :lol:
Title: Re: other games
Post by: Nuclear1 on June 20, 2006, 02:35:14 pm
I got The Original Homeworld acouple of months ago and I finally got enough free time to finish it. (Almost done! Misson 14 :)) So I`m decideing between Homeworld2 or Nexus. Which one is better?

 I looked at all the other games and none seemed to appeal more to me then these two. Sorry. :P



I prefer Nexus to Homeworld 2, but it's an unfair comparison considering one is full RTS while the other isn't.

On a side note, you can really get a huge fleet boost in Mission 14 if you know how to work it just right. I actually remember leaving that mission with an extra 120 Ion Frigates, which made the next two levels exceptionally easy. :p

(Drops mouth) 120 freakin Frigits!?!?! I have like 7. I suck :lol:

All you need is a proximity sensor and a couple of salvage corvettes. The AI really is that stupid that they'll chase single-mindedly after the proxy while your corvettes nab them.
Title: Re: other games
Post by: Kernal on June 20, 2006, 02:40:03 pm
I`ll try that. Thanks :D
Title: Re: other games
Post by: Wanderer on June 20, 2006, 02:41:41 pm
I had some real problems in getting those frigates to arrive one-by-one... its easy to take on single beam frigates but a dozen might cause some concern. Also if you play for Kushans use stealth fighters early on to take out enemy collectors/carrier within the sphere.
Title: Re: other games
Post by: Nuclear1 on June 20, 2006, 02:45:15 pm
I had some real problems in getting those frigates to arrive one-by-one... its easy to take on single beam frigates but a dozen might cause some concern. Also if you play for Kushans use stealth fighters early on to take out enemy collectors/carrier within the sphere.

Cloak generators + captured Kadesh Multibeam Frigates = perma-cloaked weapon of superdeath. If you like to blow stuff up in that mission, just use the proxy method, but substitute salvage corvettes with bombers, capital ships, or whatever you like to use to take down frigates.

All you'll have to deal with later are those cloaked destroyers and heavy cruisers in the center, but they too seem to enjoy chasing proxies across the map as well without paying any attention to the fact that they're being beamraped from all sides.
Title: Re: other games
Post by: ShivanSpS on June 20, 2006, 05:41:30 pm
Starlancer is good, but too damn easy, Freelancer... well, until you finish the plot is good, afer that, is extremly boring.

X2 and X3... well, both of then are good, but tooooo slow, and there are other things to ajust to better the playability, like TS/TP dock on TL and M1, All TS super Freighter class should be of the size of an M6 and have similar shields, M4 weapons capability, use an M6 dock type and re-classed as TM; All TL/M1 should be able to dock 1 to 4 M6/TM on external docks, TLs should have better shields, like 1 to 2 GJ. Add real bombers, which 100 to 175MW shields, 1/2 turrets, 500/700 cargo space, M3 size, M6 speed and manureability. Greatly increase Hull hits to all ships and greadly reduce the chance to any equipment be destroyed. (actualy, in X2, X3, when shields gone, you are dead, even in M1 and M2s, or if you not dead, you will lose a lot of equipment). And fix some OOS combat, for exsample, a fully loaded Phoenix M2 which 32x GPPC, 8x BPPC, 10GJ shield, is killed in OOS in a second by a Single Xenon J! try it :P

This game also need aferburners like of FS ones. and really better explocions... even FS1 2D retail explocions are better than X3 ones..

If someone are registered in egosoft forums should post this, I cant do it because i banned.
Title: Re: other games
Post by: NGTM-1R on June 20, 2006, 07:32:14 pm
Since I have seen visible turrets in the game I am understandably confused :confused:
If you would be so kind as to explain what you are on?

On what? And besides point-defense weaponry? Nexus basically puts all the guns either in the front arc or with 360 degree fire without explanation. A Sathanas with 360 degree fields of fire for its BFReds...you see the problem.
Title: Re: other games
Post by: Prophet on June 21, 2006, 12:19:48 am
Umm... no. If you install a weapon on to the ship, the weapon is installed x2 so that there are two guns in the opposite sides of the ship. In a way the weapon has a 360 fof. But the two pyhsical (visible moving) turrets of the weapon have limited fields of fire. Though the AI does usually manouver the ship so that both turrets of the weapon can shoot at the target. Was that what you meant?
Title: Re: other games
Post by: Fury on June 21, 2006, 03:06:58 am
ngtm1r's comments makes me wonder if we are even talking about the same game.
Title: Re: other games
Post by: AlphaOne on June 21, 2006, 03:53:01 am
Actualy the ships in nexus are more towards forward firing arc. But if you look closely at the game the weapons FoF in nowere near a 360. Also the game tends to put a significant number of weapons on top and on the bottom the the ships where they have a wider coverage. Overall  believe that a Nexus mod for FS or a Fs mod for nexus would be really great. And it would bring 2 of the most aclaimed games toghether to add a new dimension to the respective universes.
Title: Re: other games
Post by: Kosh on June 22, 2006, 11:17:40 pm
There was a fan made B5 flight sim I tried a while ago called "I've found her!" The Newtonian physics made it a bit of a ***** to play well, but it was still good.
Title: Re: other games
Post by: AlphaOne on June 23, 2006, 03:21:01 am
yeah i know about that mod too but well you had to have nerves of steel for it. But pretty good nonetheless. If you want to make a mod at least make sure you adapt the "laws" of the game to it.
Title: Re: other games
Post by: Fergus on June 23, 2006, 11:24:53 am
Why doesnt someone does a Freespace mod for Nexus? It would be incredible.

Because, alas, there's a lack of a Nexus modding community, and in all honesty it doesn't look like CoL is ever going to get finished.
Title: Re: other games
Post by: Sarafan on June 23, 2006, 10:02:06 pm
Why doesnt someone does a Freespace mod for Nexus? It would be incredible.

Because, alas, there's a lack of a Nexus modding community, and in all honesty it doesn't look like CoL is ever going to get finished.

What is COL? There's not a Nexus modding community but I've seen mods for it, there's the Angels Fall First version for Nexus and its incredible so that's a step (I guess).

There was a fan made B5 flight sim I tried a while ago called "I've found her!" The Newtonian physics made it a bit of a ***** to play well, but it was still good.

It wasnt that hard, well for someone who played so much I-war as I did at least. The mod is really good and I'm waiting for its sequel wich it's going to be really cool. And that gave me an idea, why doesnt someone apply newtonian physics in FS?
Title: Re: other games
Post by: Prophet on June 24, 2006, 12:53:33 am
why doesnt someone apply newtonian physics in FS?
There already are ways to make fighters act like they are affected by newton. But it wouldn't be very freespacey. And TBP has decided not to adopt newtonian physics because there already are couple newtonian B5 mods/games and you have to admit that flying in freespace physics is fun as hell. I think BSG dudes have expressed desire for newton however. So that mod might be the first one to really use it...
Title: Re: other games
Post by: AlphaOne on June 26, 2006, 02:41:41 am
Saw the teasers of the BSG mod and I for one cant wait till its done to get mi hands on it.