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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: aldo_14 on August 21, 2006, 04:36:43 pm
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http://gateworld.net/news/2006/08/istargate_sg-1i_cancelled_iatlan.shtml
Atlantis renewed. No word how the Ori storyline will be resolved.
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What an odd time to announce it.
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Well damn.....
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Saw it coming.
Past few weeks Gateworld has been reporting bad ratings for the new eps. Though I get the feeling the networks would still pick it back up if RDA decided to come back full-time.
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Oooh, and this actually makes it more likely that Devlin will get the go-ahead for the two sequels he's wanting to do for the original movie.
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[23:11:00] <an0n> SG-1's been cancelled, BTW
[23:11:45] <ValenKerr> ....why the****?
[23:14:12] * Joins: Corhellion ([email protected])
[23:14:29] <an0n> It's been getting ****ty ratings since the S10 premiere
[23:14:36] <an0n> I've been half-expecting it for a while now.
[23:15:23] <an0n> And it's not like the Ori are anything interesting enough to rejuvenate the series. Sure, they're cool - but they lack that 'sense of impending doom' the Goa'uld had.
[23:15:39] <an0n> It's getting like Voyager where there's always some cool technological trick that comes along to save them.
[23:16:11] <an0n> I mean, the Ori are invading the galaxy and yet SG-1 never actually fight them. They just go whizzing about as they please aboard the Odyssey.
[23:16:17] <Corhellion> cause us hoomahns are soo smrt
[23:16:47] <an0n> If they were gonna have the Ori as bad-guys, they shoulda concentrated the entire series and all it's episodes (200 aside) on the huge war with the Ori.
[23:17:30] <an0n> But they went "Look! Toughest bad-guys ever!" then let SG-1 go jaunting off on unrelated ****.
[23:17:57] <an0n> At least in the early years they had the excuse of looking for advance technology. Now they're just sitting back and ****ing around while the Ori invade.
[23:23:14] <an0n> Y'know, what they shoulda done with the Ori is just had them come in and **** everybody up.
[23:24:26] <an0n> Like have Walter going "Unscheduled off-world activation!" then the gate fires up and loads of Tolan and Nox and Kelownans and all the other semi-allies they've made over te years come streaming through, because the Ori just attacked their world and started obliterating cities from orbit.
[23:25:42] <an0n> Infact, they should still do that. Have the gate fire up, they get Jonas's IDC and him and like 5 Kelownans stagger through the gate, pissing blood and on fire, all-guns blazing, then collapse on the ramp screaming "Close the iris!" as a big ****ing bolt of blue energy shoots through and takes out some of the gate-room troops.
[23:26:19] <an0n> A proper war. None of this faggoty-ass passive-aggressive **** followed by Ori plagues.
[23:26:35] <an0n> The Goa'uld didn't need no mother****ing plagues. They just used plasma-guns.
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No yelling and screaming, but it was time guys. It could go on longer if they wanted, easily, but really, after 10 years, the series had basically run out of plots to do. I'm not sad about it, but I will miss it.
That said, I bet Atlantis ends next year. I'll stop everything to watch SG-1, last week, I turned the TV off during Atlantis. Just not interesting.
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All seems a lot like taking your dieyng dog to a quite place in the middle of nowhere... well you get my drift.
I predict that Atlantis will continue for a good while, then it and BSG will die lingering deaths, and then SiFi will die a quick and painful death
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and then SiFi will die a quick and painful death
I hate to say it but in the ever-present rise of bull**** soaps and Big Brother type shows, you may well be right.
Good television is getting hard to find.
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it'll be back when bsg comes back and the ratings repop
<hopes>
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Meh.
I can't really say that I give a ****. Yes, SG1 was (keyword WAS) a great series, but it's time to move on. The past three seasons haven't been that great, and an0n is right, it is getting boring and cliche. There is nothing exciting anymore, the technobabble is worse than Trek ever was, the plotlines are truly scraping the bottom of the barrel, they always freaking win with some fancy-ass ancient weapon, some inane technobabble, or some gimmick. And without RDA, there isn't that sense of humanity anymore. Carter is too geeky, and has the personality of a pile of dirt, Jackson has gotten obnoxious, and Teal'c hasn't really changed that much. Browder and Blacks characters, while nice, don't really have the cohesion that they did on Farscape. What I mean by this is, they are freaking great together, but with the rest of the SG1 cast, they don't really fit in. And the writers don't really seem to key into this.
SG1 had a great run, but it's time to stop beating this dead horse. Now, if someone would get rid of the Simpsons, then maybe TV would start to get creative again.
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*Sheds a somber tear*
I swear to God, if they don't resolve the Daniel thing that takes place later on in the season [for those of you that have read the spoilers] inside this season, i'm going to be royally pissed.
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I think that knowing they're being cancelled and that they're running out of time in general, not just on Sci-Fi - they should go out with one helluva ****ing bang.
Have the Ori fleet split into four squadrons with a few dozen ships in each. One goes to Dakara, one goes after the Nox, one goes after the Asgard and the largest of the four goes after Earth.
Then have everyone getting their ****ing asses kicked six way from Sunday. The fleets in orbit of the 4 homeworlds get whupped to **** and cast aside (though dealing some minimal, suicidal damage), and the Ori start landing millions of troops on every world - with yet more pouring in through the Stargate on Dakara (as the other worlds would have gate-defences).
Everything goes to **** and the only four real powers left in the galaxy get ass-raped by the forces of the Ori. They take the Temple on Dakara, Adria meets with the High Council and butchers them all. They blow the Nox city-ship outta the sky and an army of Priors sweep through their forests picking off stragglers. Tens of thousands of Ori fighters swarm through the Asgard cities as the little grey skeletons charge into the streets to meet the enemy and rooftop defence systems struggle to keep the fighters from supporting the ground troops.
On Dakara, Teal'c and Bra'tac lead the last few Jaffa inside the Temple against the Ori soliders who've taken it. They slaughter hundreds of them. Bra'tac and Teal'c are captured. Adria tortures Bra'tac to death then turns on Teal'c - trying to get his Iris code so she can flood the SGC with Ori troops. He endures it for a while but starts to feel her breaking into his mind, so he breaks free of his bonds, grabs an Ori staff and shoots himself in the head, destroying his brain, the Iris code contained therein and any hope Adria has of ressurecting him to start over again.
On Earth half the population is dead, the other half are either bowing before the Priors or are in the process of becoming dead. The major cities are all in flames, President Hayes is dead and the various NID, Russian and corporate people we're seen over the years are hunted down and butchered.
Hammond takes command of the Odyssey and kamikazes a cluster of Ori ships, detonating the Naquadriah hyper-space core and vapourising them.
O'Neill orchestrates the aerial defence of Earth with thousands of US, Russian and Chinese 302's engaging the Ori fighters in a massive battle as their warships move to sweep the Antarctic site and Cheyenne mountain. The Ori swarm his command center and he manages to beam out just before they open up on the place with the big guns.
Then SGC forces battle with and gradually get picked off by Ori troops as they move to secure the Stargate in hopes of flooding the base with reinforcements from their home galaxy. Mitchell gets seperated from the group and ends up leading Siler and a load of techies outta the base to safety. Carter gets hit bad, but not mortally wounded. Mitchell and co pop out of one of the service hatches in the woods outside the SGC but run straight into an Ori patrol and are cut down, with only Siler escaping off into the wilderness.
Then, at the last minute, as only Carter, Jackson, Vala, O'Neill, Walter and a few troops are left trying to defend the Gate and Control Room, Jackson gets hit and goes down.
He gets all pissy and starts ranting about the Ancients, assumes they're watching and starts screaming at them. Then all of a sudden he's in the restaraunt at the end of the universe and Oma's there. She tells him she can't help, but she's let up on Anubis (who's sitting in a booth) just long enough to offer Jackson a way out of the battle - to help him reascend. He *****es, argues and eventually just ignores her. He walks over to Anubis and sits in his booth and starts talking to him.
After a big speech similar to the one Teal'c gave Gerak - about the measure of a God being not in the scope of his power but the manner in which he wields it - he convinces Anubis that having one last stab at true Godhood by attacking the Ori and being destroyed is better than returning to an eternity in conflict with Oma. That he might just earn himself the right to wield his powers and at least a little redemption if he joins the battle.
Anubis figures '**** it' and starts to stand up. But Oma puts her hand on his shoulder and says she won't let him. Then she offers Jackson one last chance to ascend. He accepts, then him and Anubis turn on Oma.
The Ori break through into the Gate and Control rooms and Adria swans in to gloat and take Vala. As she's prancing around talking about the awesome power of the Ori, Jackson stands up. She waves a hand to strike him down, but all that happens is the computers explode behind him.
Outside and across the galaxy, the skies of all the worlds conquered by or under attack from the Ori blaze with fire as the battle between the Ancients and the Ori is finally begun by Anubis firing a shot into the Ori's bow - so to speak - and vapourising one of their planets before any of the Ancients even realise what the **** is going on (having assumed he was still in battle with Oma).
Carnage ensues as massive, etherial weaponry is employed by both sides. The fire begins to lose out to the white light, and suddenly - across a thousand worlds - all the various Ancients we've seen over the years pop into sight - Skaara, Shifu, Orlin, Morgan. They show up all glowy in the midst of ground-battles and vapourise the Priors and as many of the Ori soldiers as needed to get them to cower down and surrender. In space the Ori ships are torn to pieces by massive arcs of energy and vapourise as they lose core-containment.
Back at the SGC Jackson is still facing off with Adria, who's panicing as she feels the deaths of millions of her followers and the loss of thousands of Priors - not to mention the Ori themselves being driven to the brink of defeat by the Ancients.
He goes to strike her down (in-keeping with his 'she's not a child' speech and belief she's as evil as the Ori) but Vala stops him. He thinks about it for a minute and goes "A very wise little boy once told me that when the evil in a man's mind was so great that good couldn't possibly triumph, the only way to win was to deny it battle..."
He walks towards Adria - as her troops shoot through him - and presses a finger to her head. She collapses and he tells the troops the Ori have been destroyed and that they can either fight in the name of dead Gods or surrender and be sent back home. They surrender and all across the galaxy the Ori troopers who survived are cast back to their respective worlds by the Ancients.
In Celestis we see the Doci looking totally defeated, wide-eyed and shaken. Then the fires glow brighter and surge with energy as the Ancients finally reach their last little stronghold. The earth quakes and the city begins to crumble as the Ancients tear it down at it's etherial foundations and vanquish the Ori once and for all.
Vala runs over to tend to Adria, demanding to know what Jackson did to her. Adria stirs and wakes up. She recognises Vala as her mother, but can't remember anything else and has lost all but the most passive of her powers, such as healing - which she instinctively uses on Carter.
Reports start coming into the Control room of Asgard ships in orbit, which headed for Earth to assist the Tau'ri - having defeated the Ori fleet attacking their world on their own, without the assistance of the Ancients (sorta showing the Ancients are no longer needed as guardians now the Ori are gone). Walter and O'Neill start coordinating with the Asgard to restore some order to Earth. Vala sits with Adria. Jackson tells Carter about Teal'c, Bra'tac, Hammond and Mitchell, then says goodbye. He gives Jack a quick goodbye, saying very profound things about Earth finally being ready to stand on it's own and to help bring the Jaffa, Asgard, Tau'ri and Gadmeer (who apparently held out fairly well on their own during all this) together into a new Great Alliance - but that Jack won't be there to see it.
O'Neill's like "Eh?", then he grabs his chest and drops to the floor as the Stargate begins to turn.
Jackson stands over him as he splutters his last living witticism and dies with Carter holding him and crying.
Then he appears next-to Jackson as the gate finally engages.
Everyone stares and Jackson turns to O'Neill, telling him that they were the first ones to step through the gate, the first ones to open up the universe and to set all this in motion - and that now it was all finished, they should be the last to leave through it.
Carter's all "What? You're gonna take the gate?". Jackson tells her the Ancients are taking all the gates from this galaxy, having seen the horrors their creations have allowed - first through the Goa'uld, then Anubis and now the Ori. But not to worry about Atlantis because they still had 'big hopes' for their fight agains the Wraith, and because Earth has ships now and the knowledge and resources to build more - and that if they really wanted the Stargate network back, the Asgard and Tau'ri working together would 'think of something'.
They go all glowy and float to the foot of the ramp before becoming human again. They look back to see Carter, Walter, Vala and Adria watching them from the Control room. The camera shot goes to the foot of the ramp, looking into the event horizon as it glows a little brighter and intangible shapes appear and fade on the other side. O'Neill sees all 9 Chevrons lit on the gate and asks "Nine Chevron's, huh? Where we going?". The camera closes up to the both of them. Jackson looks at him thoughtfully and goes "You ever see The Wizard of Oz?" "Yellow brick road? Over the rainbow? Emerald City?". Jackson pauses, nods-n-smiles, looks into the strange new event horizon and says "Something like that" as they walk right up to it. O'Neill touches the event horizon and wiggles his fingers in it. He looks at Jackson one last time just as he's stepping through. He stands another few seconds looking into the event horizon, turns back to the Control room and Carter, looking a little apprehensive. He turns back to the gate looking even more wary of stepping through, then suddenly something clicks inside him, all his anxiety and apprehension fade from his face, he smiles and steps boldly through the event horizon.
The camera-shot changes to the whole-gate shot.
The gate disengages, the camera lingers for a few seconds and the screen fades to black.
Fin.
Wow, kinda went off on one with that. But cool, no?
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O'Neill orchestrates the aerial defence of Earth with thousands of US, Russian and Chinese 302's engaging the Ori fighters in a massive battle as their warships move to sweep the Antarctic site and Cheyenne mountain. The Ori swarm his command center and he manages to beam out just before they open up on the place with the big guns.
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U FORGOT POLEND
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Its quite intense but you never know an0n. Its good.
I was expecting that Season 10 might be the last. If I read everything right...the show will be cancelled at the end of the season and not right now correct?
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Yep.
They learned from all their past experience with people dicking them around and threatening cancellation that they should get full-season-runs worked into their deals.
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Good...surprised to see corporate executives learning lessons. They are often so idiotic.
I love SG-1 but its had its run. I was sort of hoping it'll end on a high note and I hope that they can work towards that by the end of this season.
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*Snip*
I'd like that all to happen in the space of 4 minutes. Both awesome and hilarious.
I love SG-1 but its had its run. I was sort of hoping it'll end on a high note and I hope that they can work towards that by the end of this season.
Unless they seriously amend what they've already apparently made, the season does not end with a wrap-up. It ends with a victory, but most certainly not a proper finale to the Ori invasion.
However, the good news is that the producers and soforth are apparently doing their darndest (http://gateworld.net/news/2006/08/cooper_isg-1i_will_go_on.shtml) to secure the means to finish off the story [as they hadn't prepared to be cancelled this season], meaning there will hopefully be a TV-movie or Mini to wrap everything up nicely... and transfer Daniel to Atlantis... :nervous:
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That'd be ok :)
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I'm still hoping for Devlin, Spader and Russell to turn the original movie into a trilogy.
It was way richer than the series.
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I'm still hoping for Devlin, Spader and Russell to turn the original movie into a trilogy.
It was way richer than the series.
I always thought that the series was better than the movie. The movie was kid of off I found...the series made it a little more mainstream. Maybe thats what I liked about it.
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http://gateworld.net/news/2006/08/200_ratings_give_istargatei_need.shtml
A 36% jump to beat last season's average BEFORE the cancellation was announced should turn some heads. And after the cancellation news has fully broken, I expect Counter Strike to get some big ratings - maybe even more than '200'.
And the fact that the Atlantis ep 'Real World' tagged part of the boost to the tune of 12% might make them rethink keeping SG-1 and regrouping SG-1 and Atlantis back with BSG.
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I expect Counter Strike to get some big ratings - maybe even more than '200'.
With the prospect of Morena Baccarin and Ori-blasting fun, I guarantee it.
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I hope BSG continues its 1337N355 until the very end of its planned run.
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My hopes for BSG involve: Tigh killing his Cylon wife and leading the Resistance - finally coming out from Adama's shadow; Baltar slowly becoming a better leader, masterminding covert strikes against the Cylons and redeeming himself by ultimately leading the humans to victory; Rosalin slowly losing her morality and ending up doing some ****ed-up stuff under the banner of the ends justifying the means; Six dying as part of Baltar's path to redemption; And the Cylons going ****ing crazy and turning on each other in a huge, vicious, chaotic civil war.
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My hopes for BSG involve: Tigh killing his Cylon wife and leading the Resistance - finally coming out from Adama's shadow; Baltar slowly becoming a better leader, masterminding covert strikes against the Cylons and redeeming himself by ultimately leading the humans to victory; Rosalin slowly losing her morality and ending up doing some ****ed-up stuff under the banner of the ends justifying the means; Six dying as part of Baltar's path to redemption; And the Cylons going ****ing crazy and turning on each other in a huge, vicious, chaotic civil war.
Apollo and Adama return to Colonies, kicking Cylon butt and then reconfiguring the Sentinels to be their loyal servants. Meanwhile, Gaeta is making a move on Ellen T. Then the battlestars return and unleash the hell on New Caprica, killing everyone.
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IMHO it is a good thing that SG-1 got cancelled, I only wish it would have happened after season 8 and before they aired season 9.
I hope the SG movie trilogy never happens though, because it has been said that the movies would completely ignore what has happened in the series and only use the events from the original movie. I don't like that one bit. If anything, the movie trilogy should cast Anderson, Tapping, Shanks and Judge because they ARE the characters. Having Russell and Spader back would alienate a lot of people, me included.
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agree with furry (:p) on the movies but i still like SG1 donno whats wrong with you all :/
anything sci-fi agrees with me
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To be fair, it's only been cancelled by Sci-Fi; there's no reason it can't be picked up elsewhere (Atlantis and SG-1 are on different UK terrestrial channels, for one thing, plus IIRC SG-1 was originally on Showtime or something).
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yep it was showtime canned it after 5 seasons
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My hopes for BSG involve: Tigh killing his Cylon wife and leading the Resistance - finally coming out from Adama's shadow; Baltar slowly becoming a better leader, masterminding covert strikes against the Cylons and redeeming himself by ultimately leading the humans to victory; Rosalin slowly losing her morality and ending up doing some ****ed-up stuff under the banner of the ends justifying the means; Six dying as part of Baltar's path to redemption; And the Cylons going ****ing crazy and turning on each other in a huge, vicious, chaotic civil war.
I don't think that will happen. It is all too predictable.
Besides, remember what happened the last time Tigh tried to come out from Adama's shadow?
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But that was different. This time, he'll be aiming to cause death and destruction. :p
Anyway, personally I can't wait to see how the bloke loses his eye.
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But that was different. This time, he'll be aiming to cause death and destruction. :p
Anyway, personally I can't wait to see how the bloke loses his eye.
I'd say; being tortured by the Cylons before the New Caprica Resistance busts him out.
And yeah, Tigh is a hard-arsed military man, not a diplomat dealing with civvie concerns. This should be the sort of situation he shines in.
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I think he should lose his eye via his wife's fingers as he chokes her to ****ing death.
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My hopes for BSG involve: Tigh killing his Cylon wife and leading the Resistance - finally coming out from Adama's shadow; Baltar slowly becoming a better leader, masterminding covert strikes against the Cylons and redeeming himself by ultimately leading the humans to victory; Rosalin slowly losing her morality and ending up doing some ****ed-up stuff under the banner of the ends justifying the means; Six dying as part of Baltar's path to redemption; And the Cylons going ****ing crazy and turning on each other in a huge, vicious, chaotic civil war.
I don't think that will happen. It is all too predictable.
Besides, remember what happened the last time Tigh tried to come out from Adama's shadow?
You all remember the thread when we were speculating about season 2, or the second half of season 2 ? And how we were all pretty much flat out wrong ?
I don't really dare to predict anything about season 3, I'll just sit back and enjoy the ride.
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Frankly this is not a suprise. Many viewers saw the Ori story line as social and political commentary (Amanda Tapping's comments reinforce this view). SG-1 is getting too ST:Voyager like (meaning takling social issue every episode). When this happens it is usually because one of the following:
- Writers are running out of ideas
- Writers are getting arogant
- Writers are getting pressured to write about these things
- Writers are getting lazy
But I think this is the underlying reason that the number of viewers have decreased. Viewers are not stupid.
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Yeah, I thought they'd lose viewers for the whole 'we hate religion' aspect of Season 9 - but then I didn't think enough fundies watched Sci-Fi for it to make a noticable drop in the ratings.
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Well, I don't think that it is just related to "Fundies" or conservatives, it is just the fact that there is stupid social commentary that makes me sick to my stomach and alienates viewers. Honestly, that was one of the great things of Babylon 5 was that is pretty much avoided the social commentary, although there was some that was hidden or very well disguised as part of the story. This well hidden was more a commentary of the Cold War in my opinion.
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Well, it's not so much 'we hate religion' but 'we have religions who force converts, just ****ing leave us alone damn it!' ;)
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Well, I don't think that it is just related to "Fundies" or conservatives, it is just the fact that there is stupid social commentary that makes me sick to my stomach and alienates viewers. Honestly, that was one of the great things of Babylon 5 was that is pretty much avoided the social commentary, although there was some that was hidden or very well disguised as part of the story. This well hidden was more a commentary of the Cold War in my opinion.
B5 also dealt with some social issues, such as racism.
I have a question for you:
BSG is very political and is very much a social comentary. So, does that make it a bad show?
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It is integrated VERY well. Like "black market," it is absolutly concievable that a situation like that would happen. They also try not to abstensibley single out a certain group. In SG-1, I get the feeling and others do as well that they are trying to force they political issues as they see it. But BSG uses these politcal hot button issues as seriously drive the plot ala the abortion issue and Baltar's presidency. And not all this political issues are resolved in the neat prestine way that ST: Voyager was. Again the abortion issue, Roslynn had to make a very difficult decision. And the interesting thing about BSG is that it tries to ask those that might approve of abortion, but asks in this situation would you justify what you might consider to be an infraction of civil rights, be justified in this situation. Although I was kind of annoyed by the priest and her religious comments. I fealt as though they were trying to ascribe all pro-life advocates as religious cookes. But the primary reason that I think it is tolerable is the fact that the political structure of the 12 colonies is still intact on the show and Ron Moore has decided to show how these political issues really affect the story line instead of, like in the case of SG-1, just an easy way to extend the show for a few more seasons with out having to be really creative or in the case of Voyager solve them ever so neatly and not have it affect anything much or have some convienient solution. This is one of the reasons I liked DS9 so very much. Sometimes things were not so clean cut and easy. It is no suprise that Ron Moore wrote for that show, IIRC. An example of this might be when the Romulan Ambassador was assasinated and the Dominion framed or Section 31 for instance. I am sorry if this seems incoherent. It is very late and I had a long day at work.
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I fealt as though they were trying to ascribe all pro-life advocates as religious cookes.
Not to derail it, but that is the case despite the best efforts of conservative think-tanks to attempt to create a secularized side for their arguement.
Anyway, Hallowed are the Orii.
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I don't and try to avoid the use religous arguments personally. But all of that aside, try and avoid generalizations.[of course I have no room to talk]
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Anyway, Hallowed are the Orii.
Indeed, blessed are those who walk in unison.
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the only problem I had with SG-1 is that you have to watch every episode in order to know whats happening. I watched it with my uncle and I ahd to ask him almost everything they were doing.
No big deal its ending. Tho my uncle will be upset alot. He loves it to death.
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It is integrated VERY well. Like "black market," it is absolutly concievable that a situation like that would happen.
Ron Moore actually considers that one of the worst episodes.
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He's not the only one. :doubt:
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It is integrated VERY well. Like "black market," it is absolutly concievable that a situation like that would happen.
Ron Moore actually considers that one of the worst episodes.
Sounds like a personal problem.
'sides, worst episode of the new BSG puts you waaay the hell ahead of a lot of other stuff.
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I guess Stargate is much more important than Poland.
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If they are going to cancel it, it better have a good ending and not some damn end of season cliffhanger. If it ends wrong, well I'm gonna go on a murderous rampage.
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Ron Moore actually considers that one of the worst episodes.
Sounds like a personal problem.
No, that doesn't sound anything like a personal problem. God damn, if you're going to use a cliche, at least use it right.
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If they are going to cancel it, it better have a good ending and not some damn end of season cliffhanger. If it ends wrong, well I'm gonna go on a murderous rampage.
If what i've read is accurate, you're going to going on one hell of a rampage.
Still, you never know, it may get picked up by another network.
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What they need to do is throw out the last episode to be shown and make a new one to end it well.
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It is integrated VERY well. Like "black market," it is absolutly concievable that a situation like that would happen.
Ron Moore actually considers that one of the worst episodes.
Albeit AFAIK it's not the scenario he didn't like, it was how the storytelling worked out (IIRC was supposed to be akin to a sort of gumshoe/detective type story).
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Ron Moore actually considers that one of the worst episodes.
Sounds like a personal problem.
No, that doesn't sound anything like a personal problem. God damn, if you're going to use a cliche, at least use it right.
Actually since it's Ron Moore's opinion that Black Market was one of the worst episodes, that is his personal problem. Since it is after all, his personal opinion.
It's not my fault the man thinks what he made was bad.
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Regaurdless, I think my point still stands as problems like this one are completely concievable, if not likly.