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Title: Gatling, Gatling, Gatling, Gun
Post by: Admiral Cheater on January 26, 2007, 10:03:00 am
I was bored so I messed around and this was the result.
(http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/7885/gatlinggunnj2.jpg)
What do you think?
Title: Re: Gatling, Gatling, Gatling, Gun
Post by: redsniper on January 26, 2007, 10:43:04 am
It's awesome in a silly way. Nuke's gonna love it. :D
Title: Re: Gatling, Gatling, Gatling, Gun
Post by: jr2 on January 26, 2007, 11:43:18 am
Hmm, is that the equivalent of the "Puree" setting on the blender?...
Nah, this is "Liquefy"!   :eek:
Title: Re: Gatling, Gatling, Gatling, Gun
Post by: Admiral Edivad on January 26, 2007, 12:24:07 pm
what is it supposed to be?
Title: Re: Gatling, Gatling, Gatling, Gun
Post by: Harbinger of DOOM on January 26, 2007, 03:09:44 pm
Pure Pwnage.
Title: Re: Gatling, Gatling, Gatling, Gun
Post by: Snail on January 26, 2007, 03:35:02 pm
Can Sandwich even carry one of those?
Title: Re: Gatling, Gatling, Gatling, Gun
Post by: Cobra on January 26, 2007, 04:11:19 pm
*stands in awe*
dude. that would be ****ing KILLER to put on a destroyer in FS2. Think of the damage it would cause. :D
Title: Re: Gatling, Gatling, Gatling, Gun
Post by: FS2_playa613 on January 26, 2007, 05:04:49 pm
screw destroyers, ut it on alpha 1, coupled with his impervious Lucifer/~I esque shielding and impossible resilient hull, he'd be even more unstoppable :P
Title: Re: Gatling, Gatling, Gatling, Gun
Post by: Herra Tohtori on January 26, 2007, 05:09:08 pm
That would kinda make the idea of playing the game pointless.

It's not a game if you can't lose, you know. :D
Title: Re: Gatling, Gatling, Gatling, Gun
Post by: BS403 on January 26, 2007, 11:10:02 pm
it is so a game, an awesome game  :P
Title: Re: Gatling, Gatling, Gatling, Gun
Post by: Dark Hunter on January 26, 2007, 11:27:12 pm
I shudder to think of seeing that gun in action... either in real life or FS...  :nervous:
Title: Re: Gatling, Gatling, Gatling, Gun
Post by: Snail on January 27, 2007, 04:27:58 am
Real life would be really awesome. We could blow up Iraqi civilians even better!

(controversial message here, please don't overreact)
Title: Re: Gatling, Gatling, Gatling, Gun
Post by: NGTM-1R on January 27, 2007, 05:19:44 am
Of course, having any beyond the first "tier" rotate loses the point and just creates reloading and other problems... :p
Title: Re: Gatling, Gatling, Gatling, Gun
Post by: Snail on January 27, 2007, 05:34:02 am
It reminds me of playing Wolf3d to be honest. Good times, good times. :)
Title: Re: Gatling, Gatling, Gatling, Gun
Post by: jr2 on January 27, 2007, 06:42:45 am
Real life would be really awesome. We could blow up Iraqi civilians even better!

(controversial message here, please don't overreact)
Controversial... I'd say so!  Are you trying to say our servicemen are purposefully targeting Iraqi civilians?  If so, you need a visit with your friendly psychiatrist.  If you disagree with the war, that's one thing... but really, if we were the type that wanted to target civvies, we could do a heck of a better job of it than that... there wouldn't be ANY LEFT by now... we'd be working on you.  (Don't take it personal: if we were the type to purposefully go after civilians, we would also be the type that didn't take kindly to being reprimanded for it.)   :drevil:
Title: Re: Gatling, Gatling, Gatling, Gun
Post by: FS2_playa613 on January 27, 2007, 10:51:39 am
That would kinda make the idea of playing the game pointless.

It's not a game if you can't lose, you know. :D
perhaps you didnt get the "gist" of what i was saying, I was NOT saying i use ~I,  i was saying that that gun would make the character of "Alpha 1" even harder to kill than he is now.  Have you not noticed the rediculous amont (compared to every other fighter in the game be it same call as the players or not) or damage the players ship can withstand?  I mean on easy, you can take somthing in excess of 10 direct anti-fighter beams?  most fighters (even the infamous brick) cant take more than 5...
Title: Re: Gatling, Gatling, Gatling, Gun
Post by: Snail on January 27, 2007, 11:22:20 am
Real life would be really awesome. We could blow up Iraqi civilians even better!

(controversial message here, please don't overreact)
Controversial... I'd say so!  Are you trying to say our servicemen are purposefully targeting Iraqi civilians?  If so, you need a visit with your friendly psychiatrist.  If you disagree with the war, that's one thing... but really, if we were the type that wanted to target civvies, we could do a heck of a better job of it than that... there wouldn't be ANY LEFT by now... we'd be working on you.  (Don't take it personal: if we were the type to purposefully go after civilians, we would also be the type that didn't take kindly to being reprimanded for it.)   :drevil:

No, I'm saying that Iraqi civilians are getting caught in the crossfire of an unnecessary war.
Title: Re: Gatling, Gatling, Gatling, Gun
Post by: Harbinger of DOOM on January 27, 2007, 02:49:13 pm
Real life would be really awesome. We could blow up Iraqi civilians even better!

(controversial message here, please don't overreact)
Controversial... I'd say so!  Are you trying to say our servicemen are purposefully targeting Iraqi civilians?  If so, you need a visit with your friendly psychiatrist.  If you disagree with the war, that's one thing... but really, if we were the type that wanted to target civvies, we could do a heck of a better job of it than that... there wouldn't be ANY LEFT by now... we'd be working on you.  (Don't take it personal: if we were the type to purposefully go after civilians, we would also be the type that didn't take kindly to being reprimanded for it.)   :drevil:
(controversial message here, please don't overreact)
LMFAO
Title: Re: Gatling, Gatling, Gatling, Gun
Post by: Agent_Koopa on January 27, 2007, 03:36:54 pm
What's the point? Though it's thoroughly awesome, it won't help reloading if you spin the giant multibarrels...

Plus, it would fire absolutely miniscule bullets...
Title: Re: Gatling, Gatling, Gatling, Gun
Post by: jr2 on January 27, 2007, 03:58:54 pm
That would kinda make the idea of playing the game pointless.

It's not a game if you can't lose, you know. :D
perhaps you didnt get the "gist" of what i was saying, I was NOT saying i use ~I,  i was saying that that gun would make the character of "Alpha 1" even harder to kill than he is now.  Have you not noticed the rediculous amont (compared to every other fighter in the game be it same call as the players or not) or damage the players ship can withstand?  I mean on easy, you can take somthing in excess of 10 direct anti-fighter beams?  most fighters (even the infamous brick) cant take more than 5...
What difficulty level are you using, anyways?
Title: Re: Gatling, Gatling, Gatling, Gun
Post by: redsniper on January 27, 2007, 08:33:38 pm
Plus, it would fire absolutely miniscule bullets...
Unless it's really just that big.
Title: Re: Gatling, Gatling, Gatling, Gun
Post by: Turey on January 27, 2007, 09:59:55 pm
Plus, it would fire absolutely miniscule bullets...
Unless it's really just that big.

Throw engines on it, import it into FreeSpace at about the size of the Sathi?
Title: Re: Gatling, Gatling, Gatling, Gun
Post by: Dark Hunter on January 27, 2007, 10:01:18 pm
Throw engines on it, import it into FreeSpace at about the size of the Sathi?

/me forsees an extremely shredded Colossus...
  :nervous:
Title: Re: Gatling, Gatling, Gatling, Gun
Post by: redsniper on January 27, 2007, 10:54:47 pm
Each barrel is a BFRED. :eek:
Title: Re: Gatling, Gatling, Gatling, Gun
Post by: Turey on January 27, 2007, 11:07:58 pm
Each barrel is a BFRED. :eek:

Oh yeah.


AC, we need that model. It'll be perfect for JAD4.
Title: Re: Gatling, Gatling, Gatling, Gun
Post by: Agent_Koopa on January 27, 2007, 11:11:30 pm
Plus, it would fire absolutely miniscule bullets...
Unless it's really just that big.

Throw engines on it, import it into FreeSpace at about the size of the Sathi?

/hides in corner, scared


Now if we can just hide it in subspace until we need it, and then open a cruiser-size hole to fire through...
Title: Re: Gatling, Gatling, Gatling, Gun
Post by: Snail on January 28, 2007, 06:33:17 am
Each barrel is a BFRED. :eek:

Nah, each barrel fires a Meson Bomb.
Title: Re: Gatling, Gatling, Gatling, Gun
Post by: Polpolion on January 28, 2007, 07:51:16 pm
Each barrel is a BFRED. :eek:

Nah, each barrel fires a Meson Bomb.

No, each barrel fires a meson bomb that has several BFRed turrets.
Title: Re: Gatling, Gatling, Gatling, Gun
Post by: jr2 on January 29, 2007, 12:29:27 pm
what the hey.... how about the BFUBBBERed or whatever the heck it is?
Title: Re: Gatling, Gatling, Gatling, Gun
Post by: Dark Hunter on January 29, 2007, 04:11:51 pm
Heck, why not the BFUBEROMGWTFBBQRed?  :p

Trying to make a point here.

In all seriousness, make it fire Helioses. Deadly enough.
Title: Re: Gatling, Gatling, Gatling, Gun
Post by: jr2 on January 30, 2007, 01:09:59 am
very true :nod:
Title: Re: Gatling, Gatling, Gatling, Gun
Post by: TrashMan on February 07, 2007, 06:14:10 am
Make it fire standard terran blob turrets..that should be more than enough considering the sheer number of barrels and ROF.

Kinda reminds me of my Retribution :D
Title: Re: Gatling, Gatling, Gatling, Gun
Post by: lefkos on May 03, 2007, 10:39:36 am
Real life would be really awesome. We could blow up Iraqi civilians even better!

(controversial message here, please don't overreact)
LMFAO
Title: Re: Gatling, Gatling, Gatling, Gun
Post by: StarSlayer on May 03, 2007, 12:11:51 pm
Need to put another barrel in the middle or you could just drive an Orion up the middle of the Beam tunnel :P
Title: Re: Gatling, Gatling, Gatling, Gun
Post by: Polpolion on May 03, 2007, 06:10:40 pm
:necro:


Even thoght not that much. I just wanted to use the beam.
Title: Re: Gatling, Gatling, Gatling, Gun
Post by: Turey on May 03, 2007, 06:32:56 pm
Technically speaking, as a "true" Gatling gun (fires all barrels in sequence, each barrel is at the same point when fired) this wouldn't be very impressive. Even speaking optimally, the Max RoF of a "true" Gatling gun is limited by:
Distance Traveled per shot = (Circumference of Rotating Barrel)/(Number of firing points)
RoF = (Rotational Speed of Rotating Barrel)/(Distance Traveled per shot)

So this would have to rotate very fast in order to hit the max RoF. You'd be hard-pressed to see a benefit to this weapon.

That being said...

If this were not a "true" Gatling gun, it'd have slightly more potential. It could perhaps fire multiple shots at the same time. It'd be great fun to watch, but not very useful.
Title: Re: Gatling, Gatling, Gatling, Gun
Post by: jr2 on May 03, 2007, 07:54:22 pm
IIRC, Gatling guns are used because of one of the main limiting factors in ROF with a single barreled weapon: heat.  The Gatling gun rotates, which allows air to cool the barrels between firing.  If said gun is moving at 400 mph in a fighter while being fired, so much the better.
Title: Re: Gatling, Gatling, Gatling, Gun
Post by: Turey on May 03, 2007, 08:17:00 pm
IIRC, Gatling guns are used because of one of the main limiting factors in ROF with a single barreled weapon: heat.  The Gatling gun rotates, which allows air to cool the barrels between firing.  If said gun is moving at 400 mph in a fighter while being fired, so much the better.

Yes, but there's no way a Gatling Gun would need a 1:512 heat:cooling ratio.
Title: Re: Gatling, Gatling, Gatling, Gun
Post by: Game_Master64 on May 03, 2007, 09:53:27 pm
who cares about specifics, like dark hunter said, lets see that shreaded colossus
Title: Re: Gatling, Gatling, Gatling, Gun
Post by: TrashMan on May 04, 2007, 03:14:02 am
Gattling is alos used becosue if you have 7 barrels insted of one, each recives 1/7th part of the heat...anyway.


A gattling gun usually fires at 6000RPM's. Slower ones reach 3000, and hte fastest one I know is said to fire at 240000RPM's.

Let's assume the usual ROF. Given that the gun there is composed of 12 barrreled gat guns:

8x8x12 = 768 barrels !!!!!!!!!!

Which would put the rate of fire at...uuum...yikes :eek:
Title: Re: Gatling, Gatling, Gatling, Gun
Post by: Colonol Dekker on May 04, 2007, 03:16:16 am
Yeah but the amount of ammo you need to carry would be ridiculous if you wanted to sustain fire for more than a few seconds. :nod: Cool model though :pimp: :yes:
Title: Re: Gatling, Gatling, Gatling, Gun
Post by: Dysko on May 04, 2007, 06:52:10 am
A gattling gun usually fires at 6000RPM's. Slower ones reach 3000, and hte fastest one I know is said to fire at 240000RPM's.
WHAT?!?!?!?!? :eek:
Title: Re: Gatling, Gatling, Gatling, Gun
Post by: Colonol Dekker on May 04, 2007, 07:01:38 am
Nearly as fast as a bexley / dartford / essex / abbey wood girl drops their knicckers LMAO
Title: Re: Gatling, Gatling, Gatling, Gun
Post by: TrashMan on May 04, 2007, 07:22:54 am
A gattling gun usually fires at 6000RPM's. Slower ones reach 3000, and hte fastest one I know is said to fire at 240000RPM's.
WHAT?!?!?!?!? :eek:

supposedly some russian one, GŠK-30 or something like that....Read about it, don't know if it's true, but it lookd authentic enough

Quote
Yeah but the amount of ammo you need to carry would be ridiculous if you wanted to sustain fire for more than a few seconds.  Cool model though 

True...but in that 5 seconds...teh sheer ammout of damage you could do....wow...it would be like: "What Sathanas fleet? All I see is debris..."
Title: Re: Gatling, Gatling, Gatling, Gun
Post by: jr2 on May 04, 2007, 02:17:22 pm
Look up Metal Storm.
Title: Re: Gatling, Gatling, Gatling, Gun
Post by: Game_Master64 on May 04, 2007, 02:38:10 pm
ah yes, the metal storm. if i recall the pistol can fire off 3 shots before any recoil is felt. and about that gateling gun, according to your figures 184,320,000 RPM = pure pwnage
Title: Re: Gatling, Gatling, Gatling, Gun
Post by: TrashMan on May 07, 2007, 06:18:11 am
You'd need a friggin convoy train sticked full with ammo for that one...

"Command,get us some transport, we need to EVAC."
"Negative pilots...All available transports and freighters in the GTVA are ferrying ammo to the GTVRSAUGC* Massacre!"

*Galactic Terran Vasudan Redicolously Supersized And Uberized Gattling Cannon
Title: Re: Gatling, Gatling, Gatling, Gun
Post by: jr2 on May 07, 2007, 01:57:28 pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal_Storm

Read it, it's interesting... the pistols are nice, but the 40mm guns are nicer.  ;)
Title: Re: Gatling, Gatling, Gatling, Gun
Post by: TrashMan on May 07, 2007, 02:21:36 pm
Yes, very interesting...

It has some limitations tough... Wonder how they handle heat management?


Immagine a fusion of this concept with a gattling gun - you'd get a absurd-ROF, lightweight, no catridge/shells , wide area suppresion weapon of DOOM(TM)
Title: Re: Gatling, Gatling, Gatling, Gun
Post by: Game_Master64 on May 07, 2007, 03:30:01 pm
it's space, wouldn't the heat just disipate on it's own?
Title: Re: Gatling, Gatling, Gatling, Gun
Post by: jr2 on May 07, 2007, 05:06:08 pm
Through radiation, yes... but not through contact with coolant (air).  You'd have to have a liquid cooling system, I think.
Title: Re: Gatling, Gatling, Gatling, Gun
Post by: Nuke on August 07, 2007, 06:17:55 am
errection!
Title: Re: Gatling, Gatling, Gatling, Gun
Post by: Mefustae on August 07, 2007, 06:20:28 am
Yeah, when I linked to it, I probably should have pointed out this thread is kinda old. :nervous:

Although i'm quite surprised you never noticed it before, what with the very first post being:

It's awesome in a silly way. Nuke's gonna love it. :D
Title: Re: Gatling, Gatling, Gatling, Gun
Post by: Cobra on August 07, 2007, 11:36:44 am
Very second post, you mean. :P
Title: Re: Gatling, Gatling, Gatling, Gun
Post by: Mefustae on August 07, 2007, 10:02:20 pm
Well not really. You see, the first post isn't counted as a post. Correct me if i'm wrong, but when you post a thread, the post count is at 0. Hence, the first post indicates the first response.

My logic > Your inferior so-called-brain.
Title: Re: Gatling, Gatling, Gatling, Gun
Post by: Cobra on August 07, 2007, 10:04:01 pm
**** it, I can't come up with a Spock-like answer.
Title: Re: Gatling, Gatling, Gatling, Gun
Post by: Nuke on August 08, 2007, 06:30:00 am
i never visit the art forum :D
Title: Re: Gatling, Gatling, Gatling, Gun
Post by: Agent_Koopa on August 08, 2007, 12:07:20 pm
Well not really. You see, the first post isn't counted as a post. Correct me if i'm wrong, but when you post a thread, the post count is at 0. Hence, the first post indicates the first response.

My logic > Your inferior so-called-brain.

Actually, the response count is at zero. Take that.
Title: Re: Gatling, Gatling, Gatling, Gun
Post by: Snail on August 08, 2007, 12:15:29 pm
Replies?
Title: Re: Gatling, Gatling, Gatling, Gun
Post by: Cobra on August 08, 2007, 02:27:22 pm
Well not really. You see, the first post isn't counted as a post. Correct me if i'm wrong, but when you post a thread, the post count is at 0. Hence, the first post indicates the first response.

My logic > Your inferior so-called-brain.

Actually, the response count is at zero. Take that.

Thank you. :P
Title: Re: Gatling, Gatling, Gatling, Gun
Post by: akenbosch on August 08, 2007, 03:46:57 pm
the sathanas has this big empty space in between its arms...lets stick it there!  :p