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Title: Threads - Nuclear War
Post by: Rictor on March 13, 2007, 11:17:58 am
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2023790698427111488&q=war

Holy crap. One of the most depressing, terrifying things I've ever seen. The first part is a bit boring, although it's necessary to set the scene, but stick through it and by the end you will be shocked. It's as gripping and engrossing as anything to come out of Hollywood.

Title: Re: Threads - Nuclear War
Post by: Bobboau on March 13, 2007, 11:56:19 am
F4 was a cool fighter, I always liked it, had an uncle who helped design it.
it does take a while for things to get going, an no one cares at all about war in the UK in 1984 aparently.
Title: Re: Threads - Nuclear War
Post by: Charismatic on March 13, 2007, 11:58:43 am
monkies uncle
Title: Re: Threads - Nuclear War
Post by: Flipside on March 13, 2007, 11:59:55 am
Actually, it was very much the same in the US, it wasn't that we didn't care, it was that we were woefully underinformed about the dangers. Nowadays, people would know that Russia invading Iran on the belief the America engineered a coup there would be cause to be very very worried, back then, they were just distant countries.

Believe me, the threat of War in 1984 was very present on our minds, but you can't really go around obsessing about it or you'd never get from one end of the day to the other.
Title: Re: Threads - Nuclear War
Post by: aldo_14 on March 13, 2007, 12:01:57 pm
The power of nightmares.
Title: Re: Threads - Nuclear War
Post by: Bobboau on March 13, 2007, 12:04:09 pm
yeah but I mean...
TV: "NUCLEAR WAR EMENENT!!!"
guy: I think I'll watch some cartoons.
Title: Re: Threads - Nuclear War
Post by: Flipside on March 13, 2007, 12:10:02 pm
Heh, you'll always get people who think that ignoring a problem will mean it isn't real, that's just human nature ;)

Thing was, 1984 was a pretty paranoid year in a lot of ways, and just as some people now believe the threat of Terrorism was just an excuse to bring in more power over the populace through fear, there were people who believed the same of the 'Communist Threat', with the Cuba Crisis being the 9/11 of the 'Communist Russia' age.
Title: Re: Threads - Nuclear War
Post by: aldo_14 on March 13, 2007, 12:18:46 pm
Heh, you'll always get people who think that ignoring a problem will mean it isn't real, that's just human nature ;)

Thing was, 1984 was a pretty paranoid year in a lot of ways, and just as some people now believe the threat of Terrorism was just an excuse to bring in more power over the populace through fear, there were people who believed the same of the 'Communist Threat', with the Cuba Crisis being the 9/11 of the 'Communist Russia' age.

I'd say there's a marked difference between the current threat and that of the height of the Cold War, though.
Title: Re: Threads - Nuclear War
Post by: Flipside on March 13, 2007, 12:23:15 pm
Agreed, though I don't doubt that the threat was expanded to a degree, there was a quite marked difference between the deliberately offensive deployment of Russian military forces as happened in the Cuba crisis and 9/11. Russia DID have the ability then to destroy both the US and the UK, Al Quaida do not, and probably never will do.
Title: Re: Threads - Nuclear War
Post by: Bobboau on March 13, 2007, 12:25:19 pm
heh "duck and cover"
Title: Re: Threads - Nuclear War
Post by: Janos on March 13, 2007, 12:46:22 pm
Threads is a good dating movie
Title: Re: Threads - Nuclear War
Post by: Rictor on March 13, 2007, 12:54:35 pm
I get the feeling that the early 80s was a time of general despair and depression in the UK. It's when punk, and the young, working class rage that fueled it, really came into it's own, when Alan Moore wrote V for Vendetta about the rise of fascist militarism, when nuclear war hung heavy (probably for the whole world, not just the UK) etc.

Although come to think of it, England's always been a  pretty bleak place, and the 80s was kind of a bleak decade, so the effects just multiply. Still, a really, really well-made film - punched me right in the gut.
Title: Re: Threads - Nuclear War
Post by: Bobboau on March 13, 2007, 12:57:23 pm
about 1:17 in it took me a moment to remember that 'fag' is British slang for a cigarette.

yumy yumy raw dead animal carcass.

suprized that girl didn't miscarry.
Title: Re: Threads - Nuclear War
Post by: Flipside on March 13, 2007, 02:07:53 pm
Judging by her expression at the end, I think it might have been better if she had. Frankly, radiation will cause a hell of a lot of disfiguring mutations in children concieved around that time.
Title: Re: Threads - Nuclear War
Post by: Nuke on March 14, 2007, 08:45:27 am
heh, cool. nuclear war would suck but i think its absolutly neccisary for the evolution of the human race. a good 95% kill rate would teach us a few things about stuff. well dont look at me, press the launch button already. :D
Title: Re: Threads - Nuclear War
Post by: aldo_14 on March 14, 2007, 08:58:51 am
heh, cool. nuclear war would suck but i think its absolutly neccisary for the evolution of the human race. a good 95% kill rate would teach us a few things about stuff. well dont look at me, press the launch button already. :D

For someone so keen on thinning out the population, you seem noticably alive.
Title: Re: Threads - Nuclear War
Post by: Nuke on March 14, 2007, 09:16:41 am
alive? you dare insult me?
Title: Re: Threads - Nuclear War
Post by: aldo_14 on March 14, 2007, 09:42:56 am
alive? you dare insult me?

My apologies.  I hadn't noticed the smell previously.
Title: Re: Threads - Nuclear War
Post by: Flipside on March 14, 2007, 05:20:31 pm
I get the feeling that the early 80s was a time of general despair and depression in the UK. It's when punk, and the young, working class rage that fueled it, really came into it's own, when Alan Moore wrote V for Vendetta about the rise of fascist militarism, when nuclear war hung heavy (probably for the whole world, not just the UK) etc.

Although come to think of it, England's always been a  pretty bleak place, and the 80s was kind of a bleak decade, so the effects just multiply. Still, a really, really well-made film - punched me right in the gut.

It was the Thatcher Years, enough said really ;)
Title: Re: Threads - Nuclear War
Post by: achtung on March 14, 2007, 11:19:16 pm
Very well done film, although, I feel it overplays things a bit.  I could be wrong though.
Title: Re: Threads - Nuclear War
Post by: Rictor on March 14, 2007, 11:50:35 pm
I don't know about anyone else, but when I lived through a nuclear holocaust it wasn't anywhere near that depressing. We basically just sat around in a bunker for a few years, got drunk and took to homosexuality. Then we re-emerged and easily subjugated and hungry, irradiated peasants.
Title: Re: Threads - Nuclear War
Post by: aldo_14 on March 15, 2007, 04:02:07 am
Very well done film, although, I feel it overplays things a bit.  I could be wrong though.

I was based on a British government study from, I think, 1979 forecasting the likely casualties and effects of a nuclear war (although said study was itself somewhat optimistic/odd - for example having Eastbourne hit by a warhead but not Whitehall)
Title: Re: Threads - Nuclear War
Post by: IPAndrews on March 15, 2007, 05:39:34 am
Hull is a prime target for obliteration so Nuclear War has it's plus points.
Title: Re: Threads - Nuclear War
Post by: aldo_14 on March 15, 2007, 05:41:43 am
Hull is a prime target for obliteration so Nuclear War has it's plus points.

I thought Hull had been obliterated?
Title: Re: Threads - Nuclear War
Post by: Col. Fishguts on March 15, 2007, 06:57:54 am
Come friendly bombs and fall on Slough!
It isn't fit for humans now,
There isn't grass to graze a cow.
Swarm over, Death!
Title: Re: Threads - Nuclear War
Post by: MarkN on March 15, 2007, 08:12:46 am
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I thought Hull had been obliterated?

Yes, but it has this strange habit of regenerating itself. In fact it could be a zombie city. This may explain why it costs so much to get to the airport (to reduce the spread)
Title: Re: Threads - Nuclear War
Post by: Flipside on March 15, 2007, 08:25:03 am
Cardiff didn't get hit till 2 weeks after the war ended. Roadworks on the M4 again.