[Rictor]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2023790698427111488&q=war

Holy crap. One of the most depressing, terrifying things I've ever seen. The first part is a bit boring, although it's necessary to set the scene, but stick through it and by the end you will be shocked. It's as gripping and engrossing as anything to come out of Hollywood.

[Bobboau]

F4 was a cool fighter, I always liked it, had an uncle who helped design it.
it does take a while for things to get going, an no one cares at all about war in the UK in 1984 aparently.

[Charismatic]

monkies uncle

[Flipside]

Actually, it was very much the same in the US, it wasn't that we didn't care, it was that we were woefully underinformed about the dangers. Nowadays, people would know that Russia invading Iran on the belief the America engineered a coup there would be cause to be very very worried, back then, they were just distant countries.

Believe me, the threat of War in 1984 was very present on our minds, but you can't really go around obsessing about it or you'd never get from one end of the day to the other.

[aldo_14]

The power of nightmares.

[Bobboau]

yeah but I mean...
TV: "NUCLEAR WAR EMENENT!!!"
guy: I think I'll watch some cartoons.

[Flipside]

Heh, you'll always get people who think that ignoring a problem will mean it isn't real, that's just human nature

Thing was, 1984 was a pretty paranoid year in a lot of ways, and just as some people now believe the threat of Terrorism was just an excuse to bring in more power over the populace through fear, there were people who believed the same of the 'Communist Threat', with the Cuba Crisis being the 9/11 of the 'Communist Russia' age.

[aldo_14]

Heh, you'll always get people who think that ignoring a problem will mean it isn't real, that's just human nature

Thing was, 1984 was a pretty paranoid year in a lot of ways, and just as some people now believe the threat of Terrorism was just an excuse to bring in more power over the populace through fear, there were people who believed the same of the 'Communist Threat', with the Cuba Crisis being the 9/11 of the 'Communist Russia' age.

I'd say there's a marked difference between the current threat and that of the height of the Cold War, though.

[Flipside]

Agreed, though I don't doubt that the threat was expanded to a degree, there was a quite marked difference between the deliberately offensive deployment of Russian military forces as happened in the Cuba crisis and 9/11. Russia DID have the ability then to destroy both the US and the UK, Al Quaida do not, and probably never will do.

[Bobboau]

heh "duck and cover"

[Janos]

Threads is a good dating movie

[Rictor]

I get the feeling that the early 80s was a time of general despair and depression in the UK. It's when punk, and the young, working class rage that fueled it, really came into it's own, when Alan Moore wrote V for Vendetta about the rise of fascist militarism, when nuclear war hung heavy (probably for the whole world, not just the UK) etc.

Although come to think of it, England's always been a  pretty bleak place, and the 80s was kind of a bleak decade, so the effects just multiply. Still, a really, really well-made film - punched me right in the gut.

[Bobboau]

about 1:17 in it took me a moment to remember that 'fag' is British slang for a cigarette.

yumy yumy raw dead animal carcass.

suprized that girl didn't miscarry.

[Flipside]

Judging by her expression at the end, I think it might have been better if she had. Frankly, radiation will cause a hell of a lot of disfiguring mutations in children concieved around that time.

[Nuke]

heh, cool. nuclear war would suck but i think its absolutly neccisary for the evolution of the human race. a good 95% kill rate would teach us a few things about stuff. well dont look at me, press the launch button already.

[aldo_14]

heh, cool. nuclear war would suck but i think its absolutly neccisary for the evolution of the human race. a good 95% kill rate would teach us a few things about stuff. well dont look at me, press the launch button already.

For someone so keen on thinning out the population, you seem noticably alive.

[Nuke]

alive? you dare insult me?

[aldo_14]

alive? you dare insult me?

My apologies.  I hadn't noticed the smell previously.

[Flipside]

I get the feeling that the early 80s was a time of general despair and depression in the UK. It's when punk, and the young, working class rage that fueled it, really came into it's own, when Alan Moore wrote V for Vendetta about the rise of fascist militarism, when nuclear war hung heavy (probably for the whole world, not just the UK) etc.

Although come to think of it, England's always been a  pretty bleak place, and the 80s was kind of a bleak decade, so the effects just multiply. Still, a really, really well-made film - punched me right in the gut.

It was the Thatcher Years, enough said really

[achtung]

Very well done film, although, I feel it overplays things a bit.  I could be wrong though.