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Title: When Art Offends
Post by: WMCoolmon on April 01, 2007, 02:16:44 am
http://www.postchronicle.com/news/original/article_21271642.shtml
Title: Re: When Art Offends
Post by: achtung on April 01, 2007, 02:01:57 pm
:lol:
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Cavallaro's work, entitled "My Sweet Lord" is a 6 foot tall, anatomically correct sculpture of Jesus Christ in milk chocolate.

I love that description.
Title: Re: When Art Offends
Post by: Sarafan on April 01, 2007, 03:08:06 pm
I'd say what really offends is that kind of thing being called art.
Title: Re: When Art Offends
Post by: Mr. Vega on April 01, 2007, 04:10:21 pm
It's about time that art started appealing to the tongue as well as to the eyes.

What? :nervous:
Title: Re: When Art Offends
Post by: Polpolion on April 01, 2007, 05:09:27 pm
I don't really think Jesus would mind having a statue made for him out of chocolate...


I sure wouldn't... I mean, I wouldn't want to eat parts of it, but yeah...
Title: Re: When Art Offends
Post by: Flipside on April 01, 2007, 05:30:00 pm
I suppose there has to be a branch of Art which is designed purely to cause 'offence'. That doesn't mean it is a bad thing, it means it promotes discussion. A screwed up ball of paper is art by definition, since it promotes discussion. Of course, my half of the discussion would be '....but it's a screwed up piece of paper' for about 8 times in a row, but at least a discussion would take place.

Same for this I guess, it doesn't offend me, but that's no guideline to go by. It promotes the question, 'What was the artist trying to say here, is it something about Jesus or Christianity? Is it a political statement towards Christianity remembering its gentle roots, or a religious one about commercialisation?'. I actually think it's far more interesting than a screwed up piece of paper.
Title: Re: When Art Offends
Post by: Aardwolf on April 01, 2007, 05:56:19 pm
I'd say what really offends is that kind of thing being called art.

It is art though. Better than a lot of stuff, too.
Title: Re: When Art Offends
Post by: Polpolion on April 01, 2007, 06:03:31 pm
I think people need to take art less seriously...
Title: Re: When Art Offends
Post by: Desert Tyrant on April 01, 2007, 06:14:57 pm
Yeah, they should(looks at anime fans>_><_<>_>)
Title: Re: When Art Offends
Post by: Sarafan on April 02, 2007, 06:44:36 am

It is art though. Better than a lot of stuff, too.

Yes, stuff like covering a whole hotel room with melted cheese, oh, wait. :P
Title: Re: When Art Offends
Post by: Turambar on April 02, 2007, 08:49:47 am
It's Sacrilicious!

Title: Re: When Art Offends
Post by: Sarafan on April 02, 2007, 09:01:48 am
It's Sacrilicious!



 :lol:

I wonder what they used for the blood.
Title: Re: When Art Offends
Post by: Janos on April 02, 2007, 02:14:03 pm

It is art though. Better than a lot of stuff, too.

Yes, stuff like covering a whole hotel room with melted cheese, oh, wait. :P

You took the bait hook line and sinker.
Title: Re: When Art Offends
Post by: Sarafan on April 03, 2007, 05:58:30 am
I just had to do it... :lol: And my point still stands.
Title: Re: When Art Offends
Post by: Janos on April 03, 2007, 09:22:04 am
I just had to do it... :lol: And my point still stands.

Ok let's do it.

What is art? Serious question. What do you, personally, mean by art?

(Baby don't hurt me, don't hurt me, no more)
Title: Re: When Art Offends
Post by: Sarafan on April 03, 2007, 09:46:48 am
IMO art it would be an open term but I never really gave it much thought (so I dont really know how to say it well), to me it would be something that stimulates you to think and wich has something to demonstrate (although that something may vary wich each person's view).
Still I wouldnt consider covering a room full of cheese/making a chocolate Jesus to be art because simply I cant see the point, they would be hard to do but pointless.
Title: Re: When Art Offends
Post by: Janos on April 03, 2007, 04:02:26 pm
IMO art it would be an open term but I never really gave it much thought (so I dont really know how to say it well), to me it would be something that stimulates you to think and wich has something to demonstrate (although that something may vary wich each person's view).
Still I wouldnt consider covering a room full of cheese/making a chocolate Jesus to be art because simply I cant see the point, they would be hard to do but pointless.

Wouldn't this mean that a work that makes you say "it's not art" is actually meta-art, because it forces you to actively think about just what art is and make your own definition of the word?

Title: Re: When Art Offends
Post by: Polpolion on April 03, 2007, 07:18:05 pm
IMHO, people are offended way too easily these days. I mean, holy crap!! Get a spine!!
Title: Re: When Art Offends
Post by: Sarafan on April 04, 2007, 03:28:55 pm

Wouldn't this mean that a work that makes you say "it's not art" is actually meta-art, because it forces you to actively think about just what art is and make your own definition of the word?


No, because what lead to the discussion of what is art was wether or not that work is offensive, not the work itself.
Title: Re: When Art Offends
Post by: Janos on April 05, 2007, 06:37:27 am

Wouldn't this mean that a work that makes you say "it's not art" is actually meta-art, because it forces you to actively think about just what art is and make your own definition of the word?


No, because what lead to the discussion of what is art was wether or not that work is offensive, not the work itself.

But you said
Quote from: Sarafan
I'd say what really offends is that kind of thing being called art.
I'm not keeping up.
Title: Re: When Art Offends
Post by: Sarafan on April 05, 2007, 03:57:44 pm

Wouldn't this mean that a work that makes you say "it's not art" is actually meta-art, because it forces you to actively think about just what art is and make your own definition of the word?


No, because what lead to the discussion of what is art was wether or not that work is offensive, not the work itself.

But you said
Quote from: Sarafan
I'd say what really offends is that kind of thing being called art.
I'm not keeping up.

Yes, I said that because I dont consider this ''work'' to be art.