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Title: Spiderman 3
Post by: Stealth on May 04, 2007, 03:08:03 am
what a great movie.

just got back from the midnight showing :D
Title: Re: Spiderman 3
Post by: jr2 on May 04, 2007, 03:10:22 am
So, you're at GMT-9?
Title: Re: Spiderman 3
Post by: Mefustae on May 04, 2007, 03:12:38 am
I heard it was ****e.
Title: Re: Spiderman 3
Post by: TrashMan on May 04, 2007, 03:15:30 am
Meh....everyy US action flick adverited as psyhological is shallow and empty inside.

teh crappiest anime has more psychology in it....
Title: Re: Spiderman 3
Post by: Colonol Dekker on May 04, 2007, 03:19:18 am
Dragonball has more charisma, but SM3 has Venom, and thats the ONLY reason i'm going to see it.  :nod:
Title: Re: Spiderman 3
Post by: Col. Fishguts on May 04, 2007, 04:22:15 am
Saw it 2 days ago. It's about 75% whiny relationship drama and 25% action. The action bits were excellent, the rest not so.

There were two especially horrible moments:

Spoiler:
1) In the final fight, there's a scene where Spidey swings across the screen in slow-mo, with a giant USA flag in the background, which was cheesy beyond recognition. The whole cinema went " :ick: Was that really necessary ?"

2) Peter and MJ are holding poor dying Harry, all with tears in their eyes .... the scene seems to drag on forever and enters the realm of ridicule. Then when you think it cannot get any worse, Peter breaks out in tears like a little baby, and I **** you not, the whole cinema burst out in laughter. I don't think that comedy moment was intended by the director.

So overall, if you don't expect too much you'll be entertained. If you expect a spectacular action-rollercoaster (like I did), you might get disappointed. It's definitely weaker than the first 2 movies.
Title: Re: Spiderman 3
Post by: DarkShadow- on May 04, 2007, 05:10:59 am
1) In the final fight, there's a scene where Spidey swings across the screen in slow-mo, with a giant USA flag in the background, which was cheesy beyond recognition. The whole cinema went " :ick: Was that really necessary ?"

Saw it yesterday in Germany, reaction was the same. That scene was so ridiculous. -_-
But, well, all in all it was a good movie, especially the part where he's "evil". So funny.  :lol:
Title: Re: Spiderman 3
Post by: Ulala on May 04, 2007, 05:21:34 am
Hey, give a little shameless patriotism a break.  :p

Overall, I was a little disappointed, but I was entertained during the flick. Meh.
Title: Re: Spiderman 3
Post by: Mefustae on May 04, 2007, 05:25:18 am
It's Spiderman, were you lads expecting Shindler's List? :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Spiderman 3
Post by: Col. Fishguts on May 04, 2007, 06:07:02 am
No, but we were spoiled by the first Spiderman movie, which was arguably the best of the recent comic-to-movie adaptions.
Title: Re: Spiderman 3
Post by: Roanoke on May 04, 2007, 06:14:23 am
....but SM3 has Venom, and thats the ONLY reason i'm going to see it.  :nod:

hell yeah.

saw 300 lastnight, incidentally.

t'was v.good.
Title: Re: Spiderman 3
Post by: Herra Tohtori on May 04, 2007, 06:32:52 am
No, but we were spoiled by the first Spiderman movie, which was arguably the best of the recent comic-to-movie adaptions.


I dunno, Batman Begins was actually rather good movie too IMHO, but very very different from Spiderman movies. Therefore it's difficult to say if it was better or worse than Spiderman movie(s)... but I enjoy watching both.
Title: Re: Spiderman 3
Post by: Bobboau on May 04, 2007, 07:17:15 am
the flag sceen was all of 1.4 seconds of out of place film, it's easy to ignore if you'r not looking for something to ***** about, seriously you could blink and miss it. too much not-Venom not enough Venom, I _realy_ hope the next movie is 100% Venom, that's the only reason I went to see this.
Title: Re: Spiderman 3
Post by: diceman111 on May 04, 2007, 07:18:46 am
Will go and see it this weekend I hope, Think that both Spiderman 1 & 2 was great


/Dice
Title: Re: Spiderman 3
Post by: lenard27 on May 04, 2007, 11:51:24 am
The Harry dying scene reminds me of the matrix when  Trinity is dying, I remember seeing that at the Theater and the whole place took a bathroom break pretty much!
Title: Re: Spiderman 3
Post by: Mr. Vega on May 04, 2007, 07:48:05 pm
No, but we were spoiled by the first Spiderman movie, which was arguably the best of the recent comic-to-movie adaptions.

Better than Batman Begins?
Title: Re: Spiderman 3
Post by: Desert Tyrant on May 04, 2007, 11:31:42 pm
I dunno, Batman Begins was an excellent movie(IMO), and I would prefer it to Spiderman.  To each their own
Title: Re: Spiderman 3
Post by: Snail on May 05, 2007, 03:50:29 am
Batman Begins was excellent, better than any Spiderman movie IMHO.
Title: Re: Spiderman 3
Post by: Col. Fishguts on May 05, 2007, 05:53:44 am
Hmm, good point. I haven't considered "Batman Begins" since it was quite different than the comics and all previous movies. But yes, that was excellent too, mostly because of Christian Bale and less because of its story.
Title: Re: Spiderman 3
Post by: Herra Tohtori on May 05, 2007, 06:14:32 am
Surprizingly, the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movie was not bad either when compared to the abysmal atrocities called Fantastic Four or Daredevil... It didn't quite reach the level of first Spider-Man movie or Batman Begins IMHO, but it was still decent movie when you compare it to most other recent comics based movies.
Title: Re: Spiderman 3
Post by: Mefustae on May 05, 2007, 07:05:59 am
Batman Begins should really be given extra credit for breathing new life into the Batman series, an exceptionally impressive feat after how brutally Batman & Robin sodomised the franchise.
Title: Re: Spiderman 3
Post by: Rand al Thor on May 05, 2007, 07:45:02 am
I just saw it lastnight and I'm crushed.  Man what a letdown compared to the first two. There was just so much crap in there that was never even hinted at as being anywhere in Raimi's mind during the other two films.

It started out a bit weak but the first half was still ok and could have ended up a great movie but the ending just sucked all enjoyment out of it. The whole thing was flabby, carrying too much weight; just like Toby. Sandman shouldn't have been in it. There wasn't enough time to develop him properly and he ended up just being rediculous.

Batman Begins was very good. Big fan of Christian Bale I am.
Title: Re: Spiderman 3
Post by: Fineus on May 05, 2007, 10:59:51 am
I'm afraid I also fall into the "I can't believe it wasn't what  I was hoping for" catagory.

(Spoilers ahead..)

The action scenes were good but the bad guys were underdeveloped and shallow. Parkers "emo" phase was more comical than anything else as the emo trend over here is something of a joke... rather than being "dark and broody and badass" as was probably the intention. Harrys "I hate you, wait... now I know the truth and I'll help you save the day, only to get killed (and) redeemed in the process)" thing could be seen coming a mile away. Mary Jane was a wet blanket throughout the whole thing and that pretty much concludes that all she's good for is getting kidnapped. Venom was pretty class but didn't see nearly enough screen time.

If anything I found myself laughing through it more than I was engaged by it. I did like the deliberate comical moments such as the Daily Bugels chief being told which pills to take via a very loud buzzer etc. But in some places these were really badly used (IE: the banter between him and the girl he was buying a camera from... what the ****? way to break up the tension!).

And finally there's the sodding "Spidey posing infront of the US flag" thing. Great for patriots, cheesy and unnecessary for everyone else.

Meh... I'd give the first one a 7/10, the second an 8 (or 9)/10 and the third a 6/10.
Title: Re: Spiderman 3
Post by: Desert Tyrant on May 05, 2007, 02:35:27 pm
Batman Begins should really be given extra credit for breathing new life into the Batman series, an exceptionally impressive feat after how brutally Batman & Robin sodomised the franchise.
Indeed
Title: Re: Spiderman 3
Post by: WeatherOp on May 05, 2007, 06:55:37 pm
Saw it last night, it was good, but I ring what everyone else has said, not as good as the first or the better second.

Too much whining, not enough action and far to predictable, and quite stupid in some parts.
Title: Re: Spiderman 3
Post by: Herra Tohtori on May 05, 2007, 07:31:43 pm
Speaking of...

Good ol' Control-Alt-Del (http://cad-comic.com/comic.php?d=20070505) has apparently also noticed teh funnyness.


I have yet to see the movie, perhaps tomorrow.
Title: Re: Spiderman 3
Post by: Dark Hunter on May 05, 2007, 11:46:52 pm
I saw it today, and I think it wasn't the best, but that the same time it was better than most of the crap Hollywood has been producing lately.
Title: Re: Spiderman 3
Post by: Dark RevenantX on May 06, 2007, 12:25:31 am
"Producing" is too good of a word.  "****ting Out" is a better term.
Title: Re: Spiderman 3
Post by: Janos on May 06, 2007, 01:51:37 am
- Emo Peter? Oh ****
- Three villains? Oh ****
- TURN THE COAT AND BECOME ONE OF US? Oh ****
- Gwen in a same movie as three villains? Oh ****
- hay let's just jizzlob this meteorite... over there and have the symbiote appear from it because fuk dis we want venom and who cares about how he comes into existence so ok, stevie, DO IT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD

It was too packed, too full of different elements. Venom remained as a really shallow character - not even 2D, but something like 0.8BD-character or something. Sandman? "WAAAAAAAARGH SMASH KILL oh i just want to talk to you"

We could've used more Symbiote-Spider kicking ass and taking names. Now we have the goddamn ridiculous Emo Peter which is, frankly, gayer than a bunch of cherry pies.

To end this rant, only steers and queers come from Texas
Title: Re: Spiderman 3
Post by: redsniper on May 06, 2007, 12:30:38 pm
To end this rant, only steers and queers come from Texas
Hey! I take exception to that! :hopping:
Title: Re: Spiderman 3
Post by: jr2 on May 07, 2007, 12:36:02 am
To end this rant, only steers and queers come from Texas

-Said the *really* weird guy on the Internet who won't reveal his location.
Title: Re: Spiderman 3
Post by: Charismatic on May 07, 2007, 12:51:29 pm
I heard it was very good and i am planning to make a point to see it sometime.. when im employed again.
Title: Re: Spiderman 3
Post by: Ulala on May 07, 2007, 02:45:04 pm
Well, disappointment or not, it already broke all the records.
Title: Re: Spiderman 3
Post by: brozozo on May 08, 2007, 12:17:13 pm
To end this rant, only steers and queers come from Texas

You forgot beer.
Title: Re: Spiderman 3
Post by: Unknown Target on May 08, 2007, 12:41:10 pm
After the first Spiderman movie turned Spiderman into a whiny little ***** with a big nose and googley eyes, I refused to watch any others.
Title: Re: Spiderman 3
Post by: diceman111 on May 08, 2007, 01:24:17 pm
Tickets booked for tomorrow hope its good
Title: Re: Spiderman 3
Post by: Mr. Vega on May 08, 2007, 05:29:10 pm
After the first Spiderman movie turned Spiderman into a whiny little ***** with a big nose and googley eyes, I refused to watch any others.
He wasn't like that in the second movie.
Title: Re: Spiderman 3
Post by: diceman111 on May 09, 2007, 03:06:02 pm
Just came home from seeing it thought it was really good
Title: Re: Spiderman 3
Post by: Centrixo on May 09, 2007, 05:21:07 pm
one word to describe sm3. Awful.

SM + 2 + 3. all crap it's all love and romance from the start. now batman, his moives were cheap and nasty but they were better then what ever sm had to offer. the best bit is there 10 - 20 year gap between movies. shows how shallow films have got these days.

if you want something good to watch that is action try,one of these old/newer war films that don't have this rediculous love scene and horrible music.

My 2 cents.
Title: Re: Spiderman 3
Post by: jr2 on May 09, 2007, 06:12:07 pm
Perhaps you've forgotten that Spidey at the present is just out of his teens?  He's prolly on an emo roller coaster.
Title: Re: Spiderman 3
Post by: Unknown Target on May 09, 2007, 07:32:28 pm
Actually, he's in college, which means 18-24 (more so 20+). Which means that he doesn't have the teenager years as an excuse - he's just a whiny *****.
Title: Re: Spiderman 3
Post by: Ulala on May 09, 2007, 11:54:33 pm
I read this review on a site that I frequent and thought it was pretty accurate:

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It was as though they had fired and hired multiple teams of writers throughout the script-writing process and none of them had read what the ones before them had written.

What was the story even about? Spider-Man's good, he's evil, he's good again... Harry is evil, he's good, he's evil, he's good again.... Guy from Wings is good, he's evil, he falls into a completely random inexplicable Laser-KitchenAid of sand, dies, comes back, dies, comes back, and now he's good again... Mary Jane loves Peter, doesn't love Peter, loves Harry, makes an omelette, doesn't love Harry, loves Peter, but might still love Harry?... Guy from Wings didn't kill Uncle Ben, did kill Uncle Ben, didn't kill Uncle Ben, didn't mean to kill Uncle Ben... Spider-Man didn't kill Harry's father, did kill Harry's father, did kill Harry, didn't kill Harry... etc.

And what's with that old butler randomly being like, "Oh hey, I forgot to tell you, Spider-Man didn't kill your father." Where was this oldster with his fell-from-the-sky plot points TWO MOVIES AGO?!

And let's all give a slow-clap for old Auntie Up-All-Night and her inspiringly cliche speech that convinces Peter to give up the black: "I believe in you. You're a good person. I know you'll make it right."

And I have some questions about the big climax, such as, why didn't anybody just spray a fire hose on the sand beast? Take him out at the knees! And how come nobody noticed this sinister plot a little sooner, such as when they were hoisting a taxi and a dump truck to the top of a skyscraper?

The long sequence of evil-Peter strutting down the sidewalk and flash-dancing around the jazz club is what really put it over the edge though. They should have just topped it off with a Ron Burgundy jazz flute solo. That way at least people would know that this was supposed to just be a dumb comedy.

Spider-Man 3 is the new Batman and Robin.
Title: Re: Spiderman 3
Post by: Mefustae on May 10, 2007, 02:57:40 am
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Spider-Man 3 is the new Batman and Robin.
Oh, it can't be that bad... can it?
Title: Re: Spiderman 3
Post by: Janos on May 10, 2007, 03:46:19 am
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Spider-Man 3 is the new Batman and Robin.
Oh, it can't be that bad... can it?

It's a positive feedback loop.

It's not that bad yet, but just wait a month or two and suddenly it will be!

Blessed be the internet!
Title: Re: Spiderman 3
Post by: diceman111 on May 10, 2007, 06:16:53 am
Well he might be a little wuzz but in this movie he isent, atleast when he is "Black Spiderman"

/Dice
Title: Re: Spiderman 3
Post by: lefkos on May 14, 2007, 09:22:37 am
 i saw it !
i didnt like the story..
but the effects are so damn great! i really enjoyed the movie!(to bad the story wasnt so original)
Title: Re: Spiderman 3
Post by: perihelion on May 14, 2007, 01:31:21 pm
Good special effects do not a good movie make (SW Episodes I - III anyone?).
Title: Re: Spiderman 3
Post by: jr2 on May 14, 2007, 11:31:33 pm
No... but they make a cool movie.  In a tinsely sort of way.
Title: Re: Spiderman 3
Post by: Colonol Dekker on May 15, 2007, 06:58:27 am
Style over substance is ok in short doses, I'm not expecting Shakespear but i'm going to enjoy it anyway because i can just not have to bother with vcomplex plotlines. . . . . . Am i? :nervous:
Title: Re: Spiderman 3
Post by: an0n on May 15, 2007, 03:50:09 pm
Spiderman 3 sucked at least 10-15 kinds of balls.

TMNT kicked ass though.
Title: Re: Spiderman 3
Post by: brozozo on May 15, 2007, 06:53:38 pm
TMNT kicked ass though.

Are you an eight year old boy? I saw it with a few friends, and I thought it was terrible through and through.
Title: Re: Spiderman 3
Post by: Mefustae on May 15, 2007, 07:56:01 pm
Are you an eight year old boy?
That would explain a lot...
Title: Re: Spiderman 3
Post by: Herra Tohtori on May 15, 2007, 08:17:36 pm
Are you an eight year old boy? I saw it with a few friends, and I thought it was terrible through and through.

Well I wouldn't go as far as saying it "kicked ass" but in the superheromoviegenregroup it was a solid movie. Of course, superhero movie genre has been subject to atrocities like Daredevil, Catwoman, Fantastic Four, Batman&Robin, Superman Returns etc. ad infinitum.

In this company, TMNT movie is a good one. Batman Begins is better, Spider-Man 1&2 are better (still haven't seen the third...), but that's about it of the more recent comics based movies. Compared to all movies, it's more or less mediocre I have to admit. Compared to all animated movies, there are a lot of better movies and some worse.
Title: Re: Spiderman 3
Post by: Fury on May 15, 2007, 11:30:19 pm
What? Superman Returns was decent enough flick. Definitely much better than Daredevil, Catwoman, Fantastic Four, Batman & Robin (or any Batman movie not starring Michael Keaton until Batman Returns for that matter) but still not as good as Spiderman 1&2 or Batman Returns. I haven't seen Spiderman 3 yet so can't say much about it.

Superman's costume looks ridiculous on this age and day though. They really need to do something about it. Even Batman's costume today is very very different from what it used to be in the sixties. Seriously, red underpants on top of blue skintight gym suit?

Title: Re: Spiderman 3
Post by: jr2 on May 16, 2007, 01:31:19 am
Hmmm... I know it's animated, but what is all you guy's opinions of The Incredibles?  Kid's movie, I know... but I think it was a really good kids movie.  Prolly better than some of the oddball ones like The Fantastic Four.
Title: Re: Spiderman 3
Post by: redsniper on May 16, 2007, 01:47:23 am
I effing loved The Incredibles.
Title: Re: Spiderman 3
Post by: Fury on May 16, 2007, 01:51:24 am
The Incredibles was great. But I think it is more of a family movie and not a kids movie. Animations aren't all for kids you know. :p
Title: Re: Spiderman 3
Post by: jr2 on May 16, 2007, 02:57:43 am
Ya.. the only thing was, some of the super powers were a bit far out (stretching yourself out like taffy?!).  Other than that, ya.  The worst part about unbelievable super powers is that I like them.  *slaps self*
Title: Re: Spiderman 3
Post by: Roanoke on May 16, 2007, 05:19:32 am
Even Batman's costume today is very very different from what it used to be in the sixties. Seriously, red underpants on top of blue skintight gym suit?



when I think of the 60s camp TV show and what Batman is now I can't quite put them together  :D
Title: Re: Spiderman 3
Post by: Centrixo on May 16, 2007, 05:27:05 am
What? Superman Returns was decent enough flick. Definitely much better than Daredevil, Catwoman, Fantastic Four, Batman & Robin (or any Batman movie not starring Michael Keaton until Batman Returns for that matter) but still not as good as Spiderman 1&2 or Batman Returns. I haven't seen Spiderman 3 yet so can't say much about it.

Superman's costume looks ridiculous on this age and day though. They really need to do something about it. Even Batman's costume today is very very different from what it used to be in the sixties. Seriously, red underpants on top of blue skintight gym suit?



IMO, superman with Christoper Reeve, that was awful and not much different from the new adventures of superman. if you think that costome is rediculous, try watching the gladiators, those costumes leave nothing to the imagination.

but is true that the suits are both stupid in the moderm era
Title: Re: Spiderman 3
Post by: Herra Tohtori on May 16, 2007, 05:46:08 am
What? Superman Returns was decent enough flick. Definitely much better than Daredevil, Catwoman, Fantastic Four, Batman & Robin (or any Batman movie not starring Michael Keaton until Batman Returns for that matter) but still not as good as Spiderman 1&2 or Batman Returns.


Yeah, I agree, it's definitely worst on the list of movies I posted, and it's not truly as abysmal as some of them, but the problem with it was that it got boring before the ending. TMNT didn't have that problem, actually it seemed to went past quite quickly, so that alone put TMNT above Superman Returns in my scales.

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Superman's costume looks ridiculous on this age and day though. They really need to do something about it. Even Batman's costume today is very very different from what it used to be in the sixties. Seriously, red underpants on top of blue skintight gym suit?

QFT.


Anyway, The Incredibles rocked. :lol:
Title: Re: Spiderman 3
Post by: IPAndrews on May 16, 2007, 05:51:09 am
The incredibles would have rocked if they'd let Brad Bird make the movie he wanted to make.
Title: Re: Spiderman 3
Post by: Mefustae on May 16, 2007, 05:55:00 am
What was so great about the movie he wanted to make?
Title: Re: Spiderman 3
Post by: jr2 on May 16, 2007, 10:02:41 am
Yeah, now I'm curious.  :nervous:
Title: Re: Spiderman 3
Post by: brozozo on May 16, 2007, 03:05:58 pm
The Incredibles >>> TMNT

I don't think I'll ever see the good in that movie.
Title: Re: Spiderman 3
Post by: Roanoke on May 19, 2007, 05:21:58 am
I saw spiederman 3 last night. I thought it was okay but I can see why "purist" fans (aka fanbois) would hate it. TBH I would have prefered to see 300 again though.

Looking forward to Transformers. That looks great.