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Title: Just Discovered FS2 Scene
Post by: Chimp on May 08, 2007, 06:27:33 am
Well well well, I bought FS2 back when it first came out and was completely stunned by it (even bought a new joystick just for it that i still have). Absolutely loved the game completed it a few times, really it was the sense of scale that other games had just never managed to achieve.

Then just yesterday i was thinking, damn FS2 was a great game, i wonder if there is any newer games that have been produced that go along the same lines. A quick google and i find that there is a massive FS2 scene thats been going for years. Just breathed life back into the game for me. So i'm downloading it again, and really i can't wait to play.

If i had found out about this earlier i most definately would have become part of the scene myself, ah well. Just going to have to congratulate you all on keeping it alive. Very few games manage to create a community that lasts this long and still has so much support after so much time.

As a matter of interest have any other similar games came about that in effect succedded FS2 (i've read enough about FS3 now not to mention it :P).

Good to meet you all.
Title: Re: Just Discovered FS2 Scene
Post by: jr2 on May 08, 2007, 06:52:35 am
:welcome:

Exits are to your left and right, as well as to your rear.  Unfortunately, the airlocks are rather unreliable, and the teleporter only works inbound. 

In case a fight breaks out, there are flamethrowers under every seat, however, due to budget cuts, they are only filled with water.  You could try some of the projectile weapons in the weapons closet, but most of them are broken and are more effective as bludgeons.  The Plasma Rifles are in their own closet, and only :v:olition , an admin, God, or the hyper-intelligent shade of the color blue can open them.

In case of a water landing, you can and probably will be used as a floatation device.  If you happen to be exploring the ventilation shafts for some reason (most likely because you are looking for a campaign you haven't played yet), and you come across a five-legged creature with multiple glowing red eyes, you've found Carl, our sometime resident Shivan.  Give him your lunch and back away slowly.  If he's not hungry, you might be alright.  If he is hungry, and he's in a good mood, then at least your death will be quick and relatively painless.  The SCP is all that is good.

Karajorma's FreeSpace FAQ and the FSWiki are your friends.  Mention efF esS thr33 at your own peril.  And, however good it might seem, don't listen to takashi*, and don't efff with Goober.


*takashi seems to be an alright guy, just take his advise with a huge serving of sodium chloride.

Go D'l the Procyon Insurgency, after you get the normal megaload of campaigns from Turey's Installer or hip63's DVD.  Then d'l the TC The Babylon Project, then get The Wing Commander Saga, then BattleStar Galactica: Beyond the Red Line.
Title: Re: Just Discovered FS2 Scene
Post by: Unknown Target on May 08, 2007, 07:56:40 am
Welcome :)
Title: Re: Just Discovered FS2 Scene
Post by: Wobble73 on May 08, 2007, 08:06:46 am
Yes welcome Chimp, don't get yourself monkeyed!  :lol:

And no, no other game ever really succeeded FS2!
Title: Re: Just Discovered FS2 Scene
Post by: Prophet on May 08, 2007, 08:17:47 am
As a matter of interest have any other similar games came about that in effect succedded FS2
Nothing is better than FS2 currently.

Newest game I find worth mentioning is Starshatter ( http://www.starshatter.com/ ). Not quite strong in the epic story department. But it does simulate large carrier battlegroup battles nicely, and you can be promoted to the bridge of a heavy cruiser. Or even lead an entire carrier battlegroup!

Not everybody likes it (I do). But it's worth checking out.


You can also try out Darkstar One, which I find to be a bitter reminder about how the world works. It's pretty and easy to play. But plot sucks and is buggy...
Title: Re: Just Discovered FS2 Scene
Post by: Wobble73 on May 08, 2007, 08:22:37 am
Oooh , I forgot, there's that russian one (I cannot recall it's name at the moment) that's about to come out, (or has just come out) that looks pretty damn good, no news of an english version yet though!  :( . Prophet just reminded me of it, I'll have a search for it and post a link if I find it!  :yes:
Title: Re: Just Discovered FS2 Scene
Post by: Prophet on May 08, 2007, 08:40:57 am
Really? Russians make good games! Actually, most eastern European games tend to be above average contraptions. So please tell tell tell what game are you talking about!
Title: Re: Just Discovered FS2 Scene
Post by: asyikarea51 on May 08, 2007, 08:46:51 am
X3: Reunion? But then again, FS2's combat engine still wins IMO.

And don't forget Inferno: Alliance to the list of mods-to-try too :D, unless Turey's installer is already loaded with it... (I don't use it :doubt:)
Title: Re: Just Discovered FS2 Scene
Post by: Wobble73 on May 08, 2007, 09:03:09 am
Really? Russians make good games! Actually, most eastern European games tend to be above average contraptions. So please tell tell tell what game are you talking about!

Yeah, found it, Tomorrow War (http://www.tweak3d.net/forums/game-videos/tomorrow-war-trailer-24668)  <- here's a trailer for it. Looks quite impressive from what I have seen so far!
Title: Re: Just Discovered FS2 Scene
Post by: TechnicalBuddha on May 08, 2007, 09:11:07 am
Hi, I'm new to the FS2 scene as well. Unfortunately I can't seem to find the full version of the game anywhere and torrent seeds seem to be dead.
Would anyone know where I can purchase and/or download the game?
Title: Re: Just Discovered FS2 Scene
Post by: Wobble73 on May 08, 2007, 09:17:33 am
Hi, I'm new to the FS2 scene as well. Unfortunately I can't seem to find the full version of the game anywhere and torrent seeds seem to be dead.
Would anyone know where I can purchase and/or download the game?

:welcome:


{Please see welcome speech above}


You can check out Jr2 (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=3134) 's signature, the Freespace2Open installer is probably your best bet.  :yes:
Title: Re: Just Discovered FS2 Scene
Post by: Chimp on May 08, 2007, 09:30:06 am
Phwoar, you guys sure have the fastest greeting in the west.

Just loaded up that FS1 port, feeling good. And managed to find that joystick i mentioned lying about in my room.

Quite surprised really that no games succeeded it. I mean while it didn't sell well, the whole captial ship v captial ship worked excellent, figured someone else would have tried.

Have a nice day
Title: Re: Just Discovered FS2 Scene
Post by: Prophet on May 08, 2007, 09:45:47 am
Yeah, found it, Tomorrow War (http://www.tweak3d.net/forums/game-videos/tomorrow-war-trailer-24668)  <- here's a trailer for it. Looks quite impressive from what I have seen so far!
Looks like a frigging missile orgy... :)

Quite a lot of talking heads though... Which means that when the english version comes, we have to endure crapload of piss poor voice acting. :(
Title: Re: Just Discovered FS2 Scene
Post by: TechnicalBuddha on May 08, 2007, 09:54:37 am
You guys should check out eternal silence beta. It's a source engine mod. If you have HL2 or CSS on steam you can download it for free. I'd love to point some coders here towards that project, their fighters need some serious reworking.

I'll try that download, I didn't think it had the full game though. Pardon my noobishness.

TY for the welcome :) *points to the reactor in his science vessel* Good thing you didn't hit there !
Title: Re: Just Discovered FS2 Scene
Post by: Wobble73 on May 08, 2007, 09:58:23 am

Looks like a frigging missile orgy... :)

Quite a lot of talking heads though... Which means that when the english version comes, we have to endure crapload of piss poor voice acting. :(

Well, here's a review on the game Link (http://www.fragland.net/games.php?id=3297)

However, what I like the look of is the continuous flight from space into the atmosphere of a planet aspect of gameplay, that could be very ...........hmmmmm........... interesting!  :nod:
Title: Re: Just Discovered FS2 Scene
Post by: TechnicalBuddha on May 08, 2007, 10:02:28 am
I'm currently in my freshman year in college, drawing near the end of my first semester. I'm going for an Assoc. of Science for a transfer to university for Bach. of Science with a major in computer science.

Basically, I'm going to learn coding, graphic design, and programming ! :D Once I do, I wanna help ! ^_^

I probably have similar ideas to implement such as being able to play one of the three races, board ships and attack subsystems (like eternal silence) being able to pilot and man capital ship weapons, planetary warfare, etc.

I hate the fact Volition went under, I wanted to apply for a job with them. Freespace was a game that was way ahead of its time.
Title: Re: Just Discovered FS2 Scene
Post by: Bob-san on May 08, 2007, 10:35:19 am
Interplay went under. :v: is still kicking as an independent department of THQ; sort of like how Maxis is to EA. Expect quality out of :v:'s work, just like you do out of Maxis's work.
Title: Re: Just Discovered FS2 Scene
Post by: jr2 on May 09, 2007, 01:55:09 am
Yeah, but haven't they gone console?  Or are they still planning releases for the PC?
Title: Re: Just Discovered FS2 Scene
Post by: Bob-san on May 09, 2007, 09:55:15 am
Yeah, but haven't they gone console?  Or are they still planning releases for the PC?
THQ focuses on consoles as of late. Too many people would rather plug some ugly-ass box into the wall and their TV and play then try it on their computer. Other than guaranteed playing if you buy an XBox 360 game for XBox 360, there is little else I could say good for consoles. I prefer PC; control plus a keyboard and mouse.
Title: Re: Just Discovered FS2 Scene
Post by: Grizzly on May 09, 2007, 12:23:52 pm
You guys should check out eternal silence beta. It's a source engine mod. If you have HL2 or CSS on steam you can download it for free. I'd love to point some coders here towards that project, their fighters need some serious reworking.

I'll try that download, I didn't think it had the full game though. Pardon my noobishness.

TY for the welcome :) *points to the reactor in his science vessel* Good thing you didn't hit there !

:Welcome:
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*Joshua looks outside and sees the reactor floating in space, and wonders where the rest of the ship went*
Title: Re: Just Discovered FS2 Scene
Post by: Mobius on May 09, 2007, 12:39:48 pm
Fortunately, your reactors overloaded! :lol:

Anyways...

:welcome:
Title: Re: Just Discovered FS2 Scene
Post by: Charismatic on May 09, 2007, 12:57:09 pm
(i've read enough about FS3 now not to mention it :P).
Good to meet you all.

Did you just mention it? >)
Title: Re: Just Discovered FS2 Scene
Post by: jr2 on May 09, 2007, 06:31:00 pm
@Josh;
modify your :Welcome: text to all lower case.

EDIT: nvm, LGM got him for you.
Title: Re: Just Discovered FS2 Scene
Post by: Wobble73 on May 10, 2007, 03:47:01 am
@Josh;
modify your :Welcome: text to all lower case.

EDIT: nvm, LGM got him for you.

Actually I got him, way before LGM once more!  :drevil:  :lol:
Title: Re: Just Discovered FS2 Scene
Post by: S-99 on May 10, 2007, 05:39:07 am
The xbox360 is such a nice console i was actually debating buying one since most of the games for x360 are also coming out for computer as well. Unfortunately getting an x360 would not get me fsscp. I've essentially turned my computer into a console anyway. But i like my computer a lot better.
Tomorrow war seems kick ass, so does eternal silence. I mean whatever happened to just wanting to get a space shooter? Usually fs is the only way to go, but when it comes to other things, all you get is great space shooters that are only mmo's or something. And mmo's just suck. Something that's not an mmo, and something that's more than just a multiplayer game. I do highly enjoy single player campaigns, and i don't do much multiplayer. I'll definitely be doing fs multiplayer when the multiplayer for it gets a little easier which it is. And honestly the X series of games of space shooters looks so ****ing cheesy i don't even want to see a demo download page.
Title: Re: Just Discovered FS2 Scene
Post by: Wobble73 on May 10, 2007, 05:54:06 am
The X series of games aren't too bad actually, it's just you have to spend hours buliding up your empire, exploring different systems and upgrading your ship and the combat element isn't too good.

Another game to check out is Hardwar (http://zedo.hardwar.org.uk/index.htm). Based on the moon of Titan, you fly a solar powered "Moth" around which you can upgrade and is similar to the X-series of games, but instead of systems, you have different domes connected by tunnels. You can salvage scrap to sell on, buy and sell things and be a pirate/privateer or a bounty hunter, (what you choose to be at the start of the game gives you a moth with differing capabilities). It's an old game, not really that great on graphics but it is passable but the best bit is there are free downloads available on the internet (minus any cutscenes).  :yes:
Title: Re: Just Discovered FS2 Scene
Post by: S-99 on May 10, 2007, 05:19:53 pm
That's another thing i forgot. I really dont want to have to raise my own empire in a space shooter either. I guess this is just another one of the unique aspects of space shooters, most of them are raise your own empires type of stuff, if it not being an mmo and being the same thing.
For me the whole raising you're own empire mixed with the awesome shooting up of unreal tournament 2004 just doesn't mix right. That'd be like imagining unreal tournament 2004 but you could raise you're own empire in it...somehow.
I think i'm just not an imperial ruler at heart :P
Title: Re: Just Discovered FS2 Scene
Post by: Unknown Target on May 10, 2007, 08:08:56 pm
I agree with S-99 - I just want to shoot things, not build up a financial consortium. There should be more games like FS2, where I actually blow enemies up, instead of buying them out. :D
Title: Re: Just Discovered FS2 Scene
Post by: Chimp on May 11, 2007, 11:35:41 am
(i've read enough about FS3 now not to mention it :P).
Good to meet you all.

Did you just mention it? >)

Heh, I noticed the irony as i wrote it. Seemed quite fitting.

Been playing through FS port difficulty set to hard, im at the Black Omega mission now, been fun so far, but i do miss beam weapons, theres no decent capital ship fighting in FS1. I played the first 5 missions on the "insane difficult", tis bloody hard, had to turn it down the notch. Whats it like completing it on insane?
Title: Re: Just Discovered FS2 Scene
Post by: Snail on May 11, 2007, 12:36:01 pm
Whats it like completing it on insane?

Cold, my friend. Very cold.
Title: Re: Just Discovered FS2 Scene
Post by: Huggybaby on May 11, 2007, 08:34:18 pm
And mmo's just suck. Something that's not an mmo, and something that's more than just a multiplayer game. I do highly enjoy single player campaigns, and i don't do much multiplayer.
Me too. How about something I just invented: A nice single player campaign, but at certain branches in the story, you have to go online and earn kills or points or other stats. Then you take those statistics back into the single player adventure, and proceed along whichever branch you've earned.  :eek:
Title: Re: Just Discovered FS2 Scene
Post by: TrashMan on May 12, 2007, 06:09:04 am
Starforce - Roige Universe... looks friggin amazing and it's made by a Croatian studio (I was amazed myself). If I'm lucky, I might get a job there :D
Title: Re: Just Discovered FS2 Scene
Post by: Chimp on May 12, 2007, 07:21:57 am
A noob question... do the graphical enhancements of FS2open work on the main campaign, or only on mods made for it?

ta
Title: Re: Just Discovered FS2 Scene
Post by: Dysko on May 12, 2007, 08:33:32 am
Graphical enhancements should work as long as you have the Media VPs activated via the mod section of the launcher or via a mod.ini file.
Title: Re: Just Discovered FS2 Scene
Post by: G0atmaster on May 12, 2007, 11:32:47 am
so THAT'S how you do that.

How would one make a mod.ini?

I was wondering why the main campaign looked so bland compared to FSPort...
Title: Re: Just Discovered FS2 Scene
Post by: Dysko on May 12, 2007, 11:43:11 am
This section of Karajorma's FAQ (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/karajorma/FAQ/installingmods.html#multimod) should be the answer to your question.
Title: Re: Just Discovered FS2 Scene
Post by: jr2 on May 12, 2007, 12:03:53 pm
FSPort used a mod.ini to get mediavps effects.  For the main campaign, just select 'mediavps' as your mod.  And, if you want to make your own mod.ini, of course, DySkO has the link for you.
Title: Re: Just Discovered FS2 Scene
Post by: S-99 on May 13, 2007, 03:38:07 am
Me too. How about something I just invented: A nice single player campaign, but at certain branches in the story, you have to go online and earn kills or points or other stats. Then you take those statistics back into the single player adventure, and proceed along whichever branch you've earned.  :eek:

What the hell is this idea? I was just talking about a game at it's most classic being. A great single player campaign also where the game features multiplayer. Then again i did like one thing which was sort of the opposite you were talking about man.

The opposite is where you have to play the single player campaign, and through this is the only way to get upgrades and power-ups to customize your vehicle, ship, mecha, in multiplayer. I liked this idea when the game Axis featured it. You played as a mecha you could build and swap out parts and customize your weapon loadout, it was a fast paced first person shooter utilizing the x, y, and z axises. Anyway, in order to get more parts and weapons for you mecha in multiplayer, you had to play the single player, and after you won each round, the mecha that you defeated you get its part and weapons that you can customize on your mecha in single and multiplayer. Anyway it worked out great. That was actually a game i liked the multiplayer a lot more than the single player.
Title: Re: Just Discovered FS2 Scene
Post by: Snail on May 13, 2007, 05:11:28 am
The plural of axis is axes, not axises.
Title: Re: Just Discovered FS2 Scene
Post by: Turey on May 13, 2007, 09:24:15 am
The plural of axis is axes, not axises.

OH NOES! AXISES OF EVIL!
Title: Re: Just Discovered FS2 Scene
Post by: S-99 on May 13, 2007, 06:46:09 pm
If it's the axises of evil, then should we really worry about hitler and osama? In the meantime they definitely give the 3 year olds something to be afraid of.
Title: Re: Just Discovered FS2 Scene
Post by: Polpolion on May 16, 2007, 09:20:31 pm
standard multi player ~ single player


standard multi player || single player > mmo