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Title: What's your name? (Tolkien fans must clicky here)
Post by: jr2 on August 16, 2007, 04:06:46 am
Stumbled Upon an elvish name generator (http://www.chriswetherell.com/elf/) + hobbit name generator (http://www.chriswetherell.com/hobbit/) (same site, different page).  I'm Elwë Nólatári; my hobbit name is Polo Moss of Lake-By-Downs   :rolleyes:
FAQ page (http://www.chriswetherell.com/hobbit/about.php).
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Post by: Wobble73 on August 16, 2007, 04:18:00 am
Elf Name = Findecano Carnesir
Hobbit Name (http://www.chriswetherell.com/hobbit/) = Olo Loamsdown of Deephallow.

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Post by: Mefustae on August 16, 2007, 04:46:52 am
Call me Sancho Knotwise of Michel Delving
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Post by: Wobble73 on August 16, 2007, 04:49:57 am
Call me Sancho Knotwise of Michel Delving

Makes you sound like a Mexican hobbit, senor!  :pimp:
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Post by: Mefustae on August 16, 2007, 04:51:39 am
Qe? No abla Englais. Cito el Espaniol?
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Post by: TrashMan on August 16, 2007, 06:16:43 am
Toni = Lotion   (meh... apparently hte latin root for toni means flower :wtf: )

Staničić = ??? (Probably Maradar  ---> loosly translates to "who sits at home", but some lastnames are incredibly difficult to translate)

given that my lastname is questionable, I have adopted another tough... Soronarr (eagle of fire, phoenix)
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Post by: Black Wolf on August 16, 2007, 07:00:50 am
Toni = Lotion   (meh... apparently hte latin root for toni means flower :wtf: )

Staničić = ??? (Probably Maradar  ---> loosly translates to "who sits at home", but some lastnames are incredibly difficult to translate)

given that my lastname is questionable, I have adopted another tough... Soronarr (eagle of fire, phoenix)

So... you're the one who sits at home with lotion?

Maybe there is something to these online name generators after all... :p
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Post by: Colonol Dekker on August 16, 2007, 07:37:30 am
Lenwë Ancalímon

No idea if thats good or bad.......
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Post by: BloodEagle on August 16, 2007, 08:06:34 am
Mablung Súrion and... Togo Bracegirdle of Hardbottle. Hardbottle? Bracegirdle? Togo!?
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Post by: colecampbell666 on August 16, 2007, 08:29:50 am
Beren Ancalimë and Grigory Knotwise of Michel Delving
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Post by: TrashMan on August 16, 2007, 08:39:20 am
Toni = Lotion   (meh... apparently hte latin root for toni means flower :wtf: )

Staničić = ??? (Probably Maradar  ---> loosly translates to "who sits at home", but some lastnames are incredibly difficult to translate)

given that my lastname is questionable, I have adopted another tough... Soronarr (eagle of fire, phoenix)

So... you're the one who sits at home with lotion?

Maybe there is something to these online name generators after all... :p


What name generators? Nah.. my cousin is a Tolkien fan and a HUGE expert on elvish language so he translated it for me..or tried.

Lotion comes from Lotte = flower..

as for the last name. As I said, very difficult to find the root of it..as they are usually descriptve in origin..
So
STAN = home/apartment
ČIĆITI = an old arhaic juvenile form for sitting

the only other possible combination I can think of is STANIČ / ĆITI which would probable mean something like..."home, literate"

My cousin has it easy..his name MIROSLAV can be easily disected - MIR = PEACE, SLAVA = GLORY (alltough it could be LAV = LION)..thus Rainalkar..his lastname simply means wolf (or a specific subspecies of it), so it's quite simple for him

Ahh..the subtle nuiances of Croatian and Elvish :p


EDIT:

that name generator is a SCAM..
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Post by: Dark RevenantX on August 17, 2007, 06:31:19 am
Apparently my nearly untranslatable name got
Tathar Ringëril
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Post by: TrashMan on August 17, 2007, 08:56:59 am
As I said the name generator spits our rubbish.
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Post by: jr2 on August 17, 2007, 11:03:59 am
Quote from: FAQ page
Q: How's it work? A: Compared to some of the other name generators out there, the algorithm is simple. It takes the first and last letter of each name then, based on a character set, expresses those letters as a two-digit key which maps to the index of a particular Hobbit name.

(hears sighs from exasperated visitors)

Oh. Right. My bad. Sorry. "Simple", in this case, is a relative term.
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Post by: Grizzly on August 17, 2007, 05:11:16 pm
The generated name is Üwe.

BUT! if you learn sindarin, and hebrew. you would know that Joshua means: "God Saves" (the wingmen) . Translated into Sindarin (elvish language), my name would be: Eruedraith

Elvish (http://www.arwen-undomiel.com/elvish.html). Elvish (sindarin) names (http://www.arwen-undomiel.com/elvish/names.html[/url)
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Post by: Mobius on August 17, 2007, 05:25:52 pm
Toni = Lotion   (meh... apparently hte latin root for toni means flower :wtf: )

It should be Loton if I remember well... :wtf:

The Anthurium is a flower. The Italian Antonio(my third name), the English Anthony and your...Toni come from "Anthurium".

I use the name Leron Anarloke in JRRT fan communities. Leron stands for Francis. Anar+loke...hehe ;7

In an Italian JRRT site(there should be something in eldalie.ch, too) there's a list of Quenya names. It's much better. There's the etimology of most names and their translations.


Quenya > Sindarin :P
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Post by: TrashMan on August 17, 2007, 05:30:01 pm
Toni and Anthony aren't the same, alltough they have the same root.

so you have different version of Loton - Lotion, Lote, Loto, Lotare, etc... that way you cna make a better destinction between base names
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Post by: Mobius on August 17, 2007, 05:35:42 pm
Toni and Anthony aren't the same, alltough they have the same root.

Of course...there are names like "Antonello" that are connected to the "same root".

so you have different version of Loton - Lotion, Lote, Loto, Lotare, etc... that way you cna make a better destinction between base names

Really? The only possible difference is between genders. The meaning is the same. A shorter form of a name is normally translated. Elvish words are short, how can you find abbreviations for them?
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Post by: Tyrian on August 17, 2007, 05:39:33 pm
Elvish -- Maeglin Melwasúl
Hobbit -- Todo Chubb

I think I'll stick with the Elvish name... :nervous:
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Post by: TrashMan on August 17, 2007, 05:42:41 pm
Of course the meaning doesn't change...they all mean flower in the end.

It's like having a several words for the same thing (allmost). Jsut subtle nuiances to tell the difference that this guys real name is Antonio and this ones is Tony...

AFAIK this is allowed...I should ask my cousin tough...he's a freakish expert on that subject. Wrote a guide to learning elvish..Talks to that guy...what's his name? Some great expert..sweedish fellow methinks..gah..can't remember
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Post by: Herra Tohtori on August 17, 2007, 07:31:43 pm
So awesome... :yes:

Elvish: Findaráto Elensar

(http://derhobbit-film.de/rune/runes.php?fsize=50&write=000000&back=ffffff&font=2&text=Findaraato%20Elensar)

...or, if I switch the first name and surname, I get "Amras of Nargothrond", which is actually somewhat more Tolkienian, seeing as how most peoples (including all the seven sorts of elven divisions) seen in Middle-earth (aside from Hobbits) used one name and a bunch of descriptives, titles and occasional "son of <blank>" added to them, like in Túrin Turambar (turambar = master of doom :lol:), Aragorn son of Arathorn, Arwen Undómiel (Evenstar, obviously)...

...and seeing as how I can practically already feel blank stares emanating from my monitor, I think I should stop my rambling here. :nervous:


Hobbit (now this is kinda gem IMHO): Bolo Hamwich of Buckleberry Fern :lol:

How kick-ass name would Bolo be?
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Post by: TrashMan on August 18, 2007, 05:34:03 am
Don't trust that name generator....Here's what it gives me:

Maedhros Ringëril    :wtf: :wtf: :confused:

That's TOTALY..wrong.
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Post by: Mobius on August 18, 2007, 08:12:34 am
Maedhros? Tolkien's Hades? How's this possible?!? :wtf:
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Post by: Ghostavo on August 18, 2007, 08:32:56 am
Maybe there is something to these online name generators after all... :p

 :p
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Post by: Flipside on August 18, 2007, 08:43:45 am
Elrohir Tinehtelë is what I got for the Elvish name.

I'm the worlds most open-minded Hobbit apparently....

Wilibald Bracegirdle of Hardbottle

...makes you wonder even more about those hairy feet....
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Post by: colecampbell666 on August 20, 2007, 08:45:01 am


How kick-ass name would Bolo be?


Bilo is a better name... :nervous:
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Post by: Wobble73 on August 20, 2007, 08:54:28 am
Hobbit (now this is kinda gem IMHO): Bolo Hamwich of Buckleberry Fern :lol:

How kick-ass name would Bolo be?


I like Hamwich  :D We have Hamwiches here in Britain, a slice of ham with a slice of mozarella cheese wrapped in breadcrumbs and deep fried (or grilled if that's your preference). Mmmmmm Tasty!  :yes:
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Post by: Nuke on August 25, 2007, 04:40:42 am
no orc names?
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Post by: Mobius on August 25, 2007, 04:46:38 am
I like Hamwich  :D We have Hamwiches here in Britain, a slice of ham with a slice of mozarella cheese
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mozzarella*

no orc names?

Tolkien didn't develop the language created by Sauron so much, we only have a few scripts in Sauron's language....there's no way to have Orc names for everyone.
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Post by: Nuke on August 25, 2007, 06:06:21 am
so how did varg get away with it?
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Post by: Mobius on August 25, 2007, 06:10:01 am
Uh? There are what...four sentences in Sauron's language, one of which comes from the Orcs of Isengard(pretty much a dialect). The longest thing we have is written in the Ring....which is nothing compared to stuff like Namarie.
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Post by: Nuke on August 25, 2007, 06:52:08 am
so noted. no wonder i never liked tolkien, the bad guys werent evil enough (as far as vocabulary goes anyway). :D
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Post by: Mobius on August 25, 2007, 06:57:10 am
so noted. no wonder i never liked tolkien, the bad guys werent evil enough (as far as vocabulary goes anyway). :D

Have you ever read all of his works...?
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Post by: Snail on August 25, 2007, 07:11:01 am
I've read a few of them.
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Post by: Mobius on August 25, 2007, 07:12:42 am
I was talking with Nuke. Ah...yeah..."you" is both singular and plural. So primitive. :doubt:

If you take in consideration Melkor/Morgoth and you continue to claim that Tolkien's bad guys aren't evil enough...well... :rolleyes:
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Post by: Snail on August 25, 2007, 07:13:34 am
English sucks. Speak Shivan.
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Post by: Mobius on August 25, 2007, 07:16:40 am
I know that English sucks. But I can't speak Shivan. :P
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Post by: Snail on August 25, 2007, 07:17:32 am
What? Quantum pulses too hard to learn? :doubt:
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Post by: Mobius on August 25, 2007, 07:21:58 am
I'm Terran, remember.
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Post by: Snail on August 25, 2007, 07:22:40 am
Yeah, well so am I. Watch:

<incoming transmission>
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Post by: TrashMan on August 25, 2007, 07:38:23 am
I was talking with Nuke. Ah...yeah..."you" is both singular and plural. So primitive. :doubt:

If you take in consideration Melkor/Morgoth and you continue to claim that Tolkien's bad guys aren't evil enough...well... :rolleyes:


Morgoth is the true evil :drevil:
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Post by: Mobius on August 25, 2007, 07:47:43 am
:yes:

His name is somewhat connected to Sathanas...they both mean "enemy" or something similar, right?
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Post by: TrashMan on August 25, 2007, 07:53:38 am
Morgoth = dark enemy (of the world)

Alltough his true name was Melkor (something like Lucifer)
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Post by: Mobius on August 25, 2007, 07:57:39 am
Right! Melkor means something like... "the one who is capable of...". Not actually "bringer of light", but we're almost there :pimp:
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Post by: Snail on August 25, 2007, 08:10:05 am
Uhh... Doesn't Lucifer mean Light bearer?
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Post by: Mobius on August 25, 2007, 08:15:14 am
The verb "fero" is a very particular one. It means bringing, bearing and many other things.

Also, light is "lux, lucis". Luci+fero, bringer of light.
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Post by: TrashMan on August 25, 2007, 11:50:46 am
Melkor = the one who raises in power

His other names were:

Morgoth = dark Lord/Master
Bauglir = enemy

Just checked... ;7
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Post by: Mobius on August 25, 2007, 12:04:29 pm
Melkor = the one who raises in power

Right! :yes:

I wanted to use Bauglir and Morgoth for Shivan ships(I want to use the old Gigas in one of my campaigns).