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Modding, Mission Design, and Coding => The FRED Workshop => Topic started by: PKDecatur on November 13, 2007, 06:04:50 pm
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I quite liked this thread (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,44958.0.html)... it gave me some good ideas. (This goes both for names of ship classes, as well as individuals ships.)
Personally, Terran ships are a grab bage of names from Earth's history and myth (usually appropriately Western-Eurocentric, of course). Could stand to use more names from Asian, African, and Latin American names, of course, even if it's just for the characters (Governor M'Kembe, you say?) And I think that Vasudan ships could be named after Mesoamerican mythology. After all, the Aztecs built pyramids too, didn't they?
But I want to focus this thread on Shivan ships. I kind of like how Volition named them in FS2. You have a lot of the more cryptic examples of Judeo-Christian demonology (Sathanas? The only other reference to that online would be death metal albums), without having to leech off too many names from games that already focus on that, like Diablo 2 or In Nomine. I also liked how there were some random ones that didn't fit that scheme, like Thanatos, Ravana, and the minimalist SD Demon. Good stuff.
I guess a similar schema of focusing mainly on Old Testament lore, and tossing in a few other ones would be the names of the Tyranid Hive Fleets in Warhammer 40,000- Behemoth, Leviathan, and... Kraken. Though you wouldn't want to necessarily do too many "ancient giant monsters", because those are the name of the Broods of Starcraft. But good ideas, all.
I'd personally toss in a few names from more modern legends in. No SD Saurons or Vaders, but I'd make a ship designated Cthulhu. Why not? In the actual Mythos, Cthulhu isn't the omnipotent evil deity, merely a very powerful one who happens to live on Earth. And it'll be amusing to have a ship named Cthulhu while all the other ones are named after Biblical/Talmudic demons. Perhaps there should be more Shivan ships named after the Kaballah and Jewish mysticism as well?
So what do you think?
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Leviathan is already a Terran cruiser.
There is a modded ship called the Behemoth... I don't know where it is or what it looks like though.
One campaign featured a Ravana-class called the Kraken (Shadows of the Kraken).
I think (not sure) that Derelict had a ship named the Cthulhu... or am I just thinking of the Cthon?
Oh, yeah, and:
:welcomered:
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No, I'm pretty sure that Derelict had a Cthulhu.
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No, I'm pretty sure that Derelict had a Cthulhu.
I'm very sure (http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/3851/screen0064zl1.png) Derelict had both (http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/9864/screen0065uf0.png).
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im pretty sure that homesick had a cthulu as well :wtf:
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I use Latin or Greek translations of the role of a ship in the particular campaign--if it's just an insignifigant little ship that'll not have a huge role, I'll translate the role or an aspect of it and find the coolest translation. That, or I'll go off and look up the history of an ancient culture and find names there. It's quite interesting, really--you can translate basically any word and make it relevant and cool-sounding.
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im pretty sure that homesick had a cthulu as well :wtf:
I think you're right. Blaise Russel made both Homesick and Derelict SCP. He might like the name.
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Blaise Russel only converted Derelict to SCP; he didn't design the original missions.
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*snip*
So what do you think?
It would be nice to see some more variety in the ship's names, specially Terran ones, I mean, GTD Raynor? C'mon. :rolleyes: I think that Hindu and some arabic names would go really well with Shivan ships, not just demon names but others as well.
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Some old Japanese names are also quite interesting.
Ama-Terasu, for example makes an excellent destroyer name (in my opinion).
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What of the Kusanagi or the oft heard of Masamune?
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Shinigami? :p
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I'm straying a bit from the topic since these names would better suit Terran destroyers or other capital ships. At least if you ask me. But, to continue with the Japanese theme, I'd say Matsumoto, Nagumo, Myoko, Shinya.
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Shinigami? :p
Haha, nice. :D
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Shinigami? :p
:lol:
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Shinigami? :p
Why not just make the SCv Renji , SD Byakuga and the SD Kenpachi too :lol:
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Well there's the EAD Ryujin in Inferno...
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Video game references work well too--many a moon I have thought about calling something the GTC Raijin,GTC Fujin, GTD Heartily, NTD Leonheart, and other vague video-game references. Sorry--I'm thinking about FF8 right now.
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GTD Heartily sounds plain stupid...
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Oh well--that's not the point. It's a video game reference. Now, in all truth, I've never knowingly named a ship after a video game or anime---it's just that Ryujin made me think about Rajin and Fujin, who made me think about Squall Leonhart and Rinao Heartily. Saying that, it makes me think of Zell who make me think of this kid Jesse that I met over summer who looks just like Zell in FF8. Anyways--forget I said anything. I'm just saying that some video-game references can't hurt (can they?)
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:welcomesilver:
Welcome to the HLPBB, PKDecatur! :D
Bob, add the GTSJ Bahamut to the list :lol:
And it's Heartilly, with two ls ;)
Well there's the EAD Ryujin in Inferno...
And the EACv Raiden ;)
It would be nice to see some more variety in the ship's names, specially Terran ones, I mean, GTD Raynor? C'mon. :rolleyes: I think that Hindu and some arabic names would go really well with Shivan ships, not just demon names but others as well.
I don't like so much names like Raynor and Baranec(Dave will not read this thread, right? :nervous:).
Shivan ships/wings already have names coming from the Hindu religion(most of which have nothing to do with demons). As for the Arabic names...you can use Kjata(Kujata?) and Bahamut(please use this one for a massive and powerful ship or you will probably taste my rage! :P).
There is a modded ship called the Behemoth... I don't know where it is or what it looks like though.
We already have the SC Behemoth in the main campaign(strange, its name should have been "Rakshasa"...maybe that principle is valid for destroyer class ships and above). In the demo of FreeSpace, the Juggernauts were called "behemots".
I'd personally toss in a few names from more modern legends in. No SD Saurons or Vaders, but I'd make a ship designated Cthulhu. Why not? In the actual Mythos, Cthulhu isn't the omnipotent evil deity, merely a very powerful one who happens to live on Earth. And it'll be amusing to have a ship named Cthulhu while all the other ones are named after Biblical/Talmudic demons. Perhaps there should be more Shivan ships named after the Kaballah and Jewish mysticism as well?
So what do you think?
Frankly I don't know why we should forbid names like "Sauron", "Morgoth"& Co. and allow "Chtulhu", "Chton" & Co.
Names created by Tolkien are better, Lovecraft's stuff makes my eyes bleed. Tolkien's languages have been influenced from Gaelic, Finnish and other languages I don't remember at the moment. They make more sense than the others. The Elvish "Heru" is so damn close to the Finnish "Herra".
I wonder if Lovecraft's names are equally interesting. And Tolkien is only reletively recent. The films are recent, the world imagined by Tolkien is not.
Oh, by the way, why don't you use Latin names like "Malor" or Greek ones like "Thanatos"? :P
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I think there already is a ship named Thanatos. It's Shivan I think and was in FS2 main.
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Yes, it's in Apocalypse.
And there also is a Cain names "Malor" in the Nebula.
My point is that Latin and Greek names are therefore canon :P
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GTC Kusari? Lol@Freelancer
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Aren't there any Viking names we can borrow from? I'm just trying to continue the conversation.
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Shinigami? :p
Why not just make the SCv Renji , SD Byakuga and the SD Kenpachi too :lol:
Excuse me but i believe its ByakuYa no? :p
EDIT: SJ Toushiro? :nod:
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i Dunno, bt i like the sound of the SJ Zangetsu.
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I don't like so much names like Raynor and Baranec(Dave will not read this thread, right? :nervous:).
Shivan ships/wings already have names coming from the Hindu religion(most of which have nothing to do with demons). As for the Arabic names...you can use Kjata(Kujata?) and Bahamut(please use this one for a massive and powerful ship or you will probably taste my rage! :P).
Dave who? Bahamut is used way too much like Hyperion, perhaps something like SD Th'uban, arabic for dragon, it's quite fitting for a ravana or demon IMO. A couple of Kushan names are really great too for capital ships like Vasudeva, it fits well for a vasudan corvette.
Aren't there any Viking names we can borrow from? I'm just trying to continue the conversation.
Vikings are interesting too, unfortunately I dont know much about them (name wise).
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Viking names are already in there ( GTF Loki ) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loki)
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I use a random eclectic bunch of things which are regarded as evil, but are not "mainstream" enough to sound stupid. E.G. I will never name a ship "SD Satan" or "SD Sauron"; however, "SD Hezrou" is perfectly valid as far as I'm concerned.
I occasionally also make up names, such as "SC Mekaisu". (It just sounds right somehow.)
And of course, every campaign needs at least one SC Parvati. (Or in Warzone's case, two.) :P
Though destructive forces in general seem to be valid names as well. Anyone remember the SC Thunder and SC Lightning from FS1?
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SC Lightning, SC Thunder? Wow.. ooh. SC Hurricane? Hurricane and Typhoon sound like valid names. Armageddon sounds even better.
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Oh god, you've sealed your fate >_< here comes the name spam..
SC Noreaster, SC Blizzard, SC Eruption, SC Quake, SC Apocalypse, SC Hale (however you spell it), SC Cyclone, SC Magma, SC Lava, SC Tornado, SC Ragnarok, SC Storm, SC Gale, SC Maelstrom, SC Bermuda Triangle, SC Tsunami. Ok, Now lets translate that into latin ;)
SC Noreaster SC Blizzard SC Erumpo SC Contremisco SC Apocalypse SC Vigoratus SC Cyclone SC Magma SC Lava SC Turbo SC Ragnarok SC Tempestas SC Procella SC Maelstrom SC Bermuda Triangle SC Tsunami. Several are quite interesting eh? i like the SC Vigoratis and SC Tempestas myself.
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Frankly I don't know why we should forbid names like "Sauron", "Morgoth"& Co. and allow "Chtulhu", "Chton" & Co.
Names created by Tolkien are better, Lovecraft's stuff makes my eyes bleed..
You're now my sworn enemy.
But more seriously - the problem with Tolkien's names is that generally speaking they sound familiar at best, generic at worst. Sauron in particular doesn't work well as a ship name because it's just too recognisable, whereas Cthulhu hasn't pierced the public consciousness with quite the same fervency. That, and it's just far more appropriate - Sauron was the Dark Lord of Mordor, whereas Cthulhu was an ancient, colossal alien. Which sounds more like the Shivans?
Tolkien's languages have been influenced from Gaelic, Finnish and other languages I don't remember at the moment. They make more sense than the others. The Elvish "Heru" is so damn close to the Finnish "Herra".
I wonder if Lovecraft's names are equally interesting.
Lovecraft's names have little to do with language. The names of his creatures generally aren't the 'proper' spelling: they're simply the closest imitation the human tongue can make of completely alien syllables.
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I knew your name was familiar. Hooray! The creator of Transcend!
Anyway,Oh god, you've sealed your fate >_< here comes the name spam..
. . . SC Eruption . . . SC Bermuda Triangle . . . SC Noreaster.
Interesting names but the SC Bermuda Triangle? Sounds a tad bit long.
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SC Bush?
SC Osama?
There both evil people...
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SC Bush?
SC Osama?
There both evil people...
:nervous:
Look everyone, he's trying to be funny and failing miserably at it!
:lol:
(no offense)
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You could always shorten it to Bermuda :doubt:
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SC Bush?
SC Osama?
There both evil people...
:nervous:
Look everyone, he's trying to be funny and failing miserably at it!
:lol:
(no offense)
I wasn't trying to be funny, I am serous.
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I wasn't trying to be funny, I am serous.
Serous? That you definitely were. :p
;)
[joke mode - off]
Now, really, Bush and Osama are awfull names, even more so for warships.
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Now, really, Bush and Osama are awfull names, even more so for warships.
What about for a supercarrier (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_George_H._W._Bush_%28CVN-77%29)?
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What about for a supercarrier (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_George_H._W._Bush_%28CVN-77%29)?
It's still a bad name but this is only my opinion, of course.
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Dead presidents as ship names are common for the US Navy. I'd personally like to do that with GTVA warships, except for the fact that we don't know the names of basically every leader there is--and I don't think Snipes would ever be recognized as a public hero (despite the cockpit covered in duct-tape'd medals).
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(despite the cockpit covered in duct-tape'd medals).
That was Mackie of Derelict... not Snipes.
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Dead presidents as ship names are common for the US Navy. I'd personally like to do that with GTVA warships, except for the fact that we don't know the names of basically every leader there is--and I don't think Snipes would ever be recognized as a public hero (despite the cockpit covered in duct-tape'd medals).
With that in mind, there could be a GTD Petrarch.
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GTD Samsa (i THINK it was a samsa in charge of the bastion no?)
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GTD Samsa (i THINK it was a samsa in charge of the bastion no?)
No, it was a woman IIRC. Samsa was a squadron leader, dont know of which though.
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Samsa was squadron leader of the 107th Ravens on the Aquitaine.
The admiral on the Bastion was Admiral Shima.
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Arg i always get those two mixed up :hopping:
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Sarafan: I know, Hyperion is widely used, but I don't remember ships called "Bahamut"(without considering mine) :wtf:
Ransom: Lovecraft's names are famous. I have never read a book of H. L., but I know names like Chtulhu thanks to many RPGs. There have been many TV shows about the Necronomicon and The Call of Chtulhu...I don't remember a TV show about Tolkien.
Sauron became the Lord of Mordor in a second moment...you should know of the dark period passed with Morgoth...or what he did in Nùmenor. He rivalled with his Master!
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Ransom: Lovecraft's names are famous. I have never read a book of H. L., but I know names like Chtulhu thanks to many RPGs. There have been many TV shows about the Necronomicon and The Call of Chtulhu...I don't remember a TV show about Tolkien.
Sauron became the Lord of Mordor in a second moment...you should know of the dark period passed with Morgoth...or what he did in Nùmenor. He rivalled with his Master!
I didn't say they weren't famous. I said they weren't half as famous as Tolkien's. Most people have heard the name Lovecraft, but only a fraction of those know he was an author let alone anything more detailed.
The Call of Cthulhu has never been adapted for TV - in fact it's only recently the first movie based on that story came out. It's a black and white silent film which never screened in cinemas. People who aren't big fans of Lovecraft will never see it. The Necronomicon I'll give you, but that has really extended well beyond Lovecraft's universe - it was made famous because of how many things referenced it, to the point where people who have never even heard of Lovecraft can recognise the name. The Evil Dead movies are probably the best example of this.
There have only been a handful of TV shows based on Lovecraft works. There's a few films, but most of them are very loosely based on stories which don't involve Cthulhu and none of them are major. Where did you get the idea there were 'many' of them?
Lovecraft floats around in the public consciousness, but you simply cannot argue he is anywhere near as recognisable as Tolkien. Cthulhu and the Necronomicon are pretty much the only ones which are at all widely known, and Cthulhu isn't actually in that many of his stories.
Sauron makes a bad ship name because it's about as unsubtle as a reference can get. Cthulhu isn't much better, I'll agree. Derelict's use of Nyarlathotep on the other hand is actually quite appropriate given the role that name had in Lovecraft's stories, and it's suitably obscure. And the less recognisable of Tolkien's names - like, say, the Numenor you mentioned - that'd be decent ship name material. When you reference other fiction you have to strike a balance between clear enough that fans will recognise it, and subtle enough that people who aren't will not. Otherwise it's just obnoxious.
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Please note that "TV shows" doesn't necessarily mean films and stuff. I was refering to shows in which the themes of the books have been discussed.
I didn't mention Nùmenor as a good name for a ship, I mentioned it because it's connected to what Sauron did before LOTR. You call Sauron "Lord of Mordor"...that's the role he has in LOTR. In LOTR he's almost a spectral identity, in other works by Tolkien he's not.
The only well known Sauron is the Red Eye, not the Maia who rebelled and promoted pseudo-satanic rites. In LOTR Sauron isn't scary and doesn't appear as a powerful enemy: he's immobile, vulnerable and can only influence the others. In the Silmarillion he's completely different. That's why I consider Sauron a good name for a Shivan ship.
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Kindly give me some examples of these supposedly numerous TV shows, then.
A vast majority have never heard of the history you're talking about and so to them he'll always be the Lord of Mordor. I'll repeat myself: it's a completely unsubtle reference. You'd be better off naming the ship after one of Sauron's other names (which are far cooler anyway) if you absolutely must tie a ship to that character. It's like calling a ship Voldemort or something. It jumps out at the player far too much and breaks immersion.
But in any case it doesn't look like we're going to come to an agreement here.
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(despite the cockpit covered in duct-tape'd medals).
That was Mackie of Derelict... not Snipes.
I know that already--I was just saying that Snipes has a lot of rewards from the GTVI. I didn't want to say in his medals chest--it seems boring. :P
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Kindly give me some examples of these supposedly numerous TV shows, then.
What about "we live in two different countries and watch different TV programs"? :P
Lovecraft has been discussed in many TV shows here. I have also read many articles about him. The most recent one has been published about one month ago.
A vast majority have never heard of the history you're talking about and so to them he'll always be the Lord of Mordor. I'll repeat myself: it's a completely unsubtle reference. You'd be better off naming the ship after one of Sauron's other names (which are far cooler anyway) if you absolutely must tie a ship to that character. It's like calling a ship Voldemort or something. It jumps out at the player far too much and breaks immersion.
That's the point, people know the films based on LOTR and know nothing of the rest(even the original plot of the books has been slightly changed). I think that in a special environment the name Sauron can be used without problems. I'm thinking of a group of Shivan ships named after Tolkien's evil creatures. One of them is Sauron. In such an environment the player will reckognize one name but will know nothing of the others. "Looks like I missed something...".
But in any case it doesn't look like we're going to come to an agreement here.
:yes:
Wrong! :P
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Sarafan: I know, Hyperion is widely used, but I don't remember ships called "Bahamut"(without considering mine) :wtf:
IIRC the airship you get in FF8 is Bahamut too but it's mostly because it's a too widely used name, people already know that something called Bahamut is going to be the badass ship/monster/etc. It's a cliche, in other words.
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Uh? In Final Fantasy VIII the ship si called Ragnarock(and Lagunarock in the Italian version). Bahamut is a Guardian Force.
Are you refering to Final Fantasy XII? The fight against the last boss is aboard a warship named Bahamut. ;)
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Uh? In Final Fantasy VIII the ship si called Ragnarock(and Lagunarock in the Italian version). Bahamut is a Guardian Force.
Are you refering to Final Fantasy XII? The fight against the last boss is aboard a warship named Bahamut. ;)
No, I was wrong, it was the Ragnarock, that's why I said IIRC. But I didnt knew about that one in FF9.
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Eh? FFVIII is FF8, not FF9! :blah:
Stop confusing me! :P
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FF XII is 12... :wtf:
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Good Lord...
In Final Fantasy VIII or 8, there's a ship called Ragnarock/Lagunarock and a Guardian Force called Bahamut;
In Final Fantasy IX or 9, there's a ship called Invincible and an Eidolon called Bahamut;
In Final Fantasy XII or 12, there's a ship called Bahamut;
Enough!
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Interesting thing I started here. :lol:
Anyways--Aramaic words & names for ship names works quite well, as most people already know. I actually like some African references.
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I suggest the Enclyclopaedia Mythica, Woomeister uses it :)
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This is probably straying off topic, but I'm more concerned with the naming of Shivan wings rather than ships. The name "Shivans" makes sense, since they're the great destroyers and all. But I hated how in the original FS, the majority of the wings were named after reincarnations of the Hindu God, which led to directives like "Destroy Rama". (Yes, I'm Hindu, but the game was just too addicting for me to stop playing...)
I know they got rid of that in FS2 by using the zodiac for all enemies, but I've seen the old trend cropping up in a handful of campaigns. It's probably less common today; I don't have a working version of the SCP, so I haven't played most of the campaigns out there. Still, I was hoping there could be some kind of general consensus to avoid the old trend.
Sorry, I just had to put that out there... Anyway, back on topic. As an FF8 fan, I think a name like the GTD Lionheart or GTD Alexander would be great, but I can't see anything from that game appearing as a Shivan ship-- SD Doomtrain just sounds lame. Though that sparks my memory... wasn't there an SC Sephiroth somewhere in the main FS2 campaign? Or am I just imagining that?
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There are Seraphim-class bombers, but I don't recall a Sephiroth...
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Sephiroth would be an interesting name. Subtle, no but recognizable, yes. It has a certain ring to it.
Ah, since I just watched End of Evangelion, I can't help but keep on thinking of random religious references. That movie was crazy..
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Sephiroth would be an interesting name. Subtle, no but recognizable, yes. It has a certain ring to it.
Ah, since I just watched End of Evangelion, I can't help but keep on thinking of random religious references. That movie was crazy..
Bah! Try watching the real ending! Eps. 25/26, see if you can understand that! :D
(actually its quite possible and easy and its a better ending than that silly movie)
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I saw those two episodes before seeing the movie. It . . augh, makes no sense.
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I saw those two episodes before seeing the movie. It . . augh, makes no sense.
Then watch them till they make sense!!! :drevil:
:p
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Haha, fine then! I was planning on it someday anyway.
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Going way off topic here...
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I saw those two episodes before seeing the movie. It . . augh, makes no sense.
Then watch them till they make sense!!! :drevil:
:p
There is a 99,9% chance that a normal human being will become insane long before that happens.
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wasn't there an SC Sephiroth somewhere in the main FS2 campaign? Or am I just imagining that?
yes there was... it was in one of the nebular missions, though which one i cant remember
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Pretty sure it was when you discovered the second knossos
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Ah well, there's no rule against reusing names for other campaigns. It might look bad but hey if it's relevant, It's all good.
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I would only reuse a name if the ship survived >_>
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I find it ironic that Seraphim is used for one of the Shivan bombers.
Here, we're mostly talking about evil names for evil, Shivan things, but the word "seraphim" actually refers to the highest order of angels in Christian angelic hierarchy. The same sort of thing applies for Lucifer as well (the word has obviously shifted from its original meaning, "light-bearer," and thus makes sense as a Shivan term).
About names, I think Norse mythology is a good source for all sorts, good and evil. The FF series actually borrows very heavily from this area; FFVII does the most. We talked about it briefly (vikings), and FS does have a couple, Loki as mentioned and Mjolnir.
Baldr, Delling (sounds Terran), Aegir, Skuld, Aurvandil, Kvasir...
And we haven't even gotten to the more popular ones like Odin, Thor, Fenrir, etc.
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Kindly give me some examples of these supposedly numerous TV shows, then.
A vast majority have never heard of the history you're talking about and so to them he'll always be the Lord of Mordor. I'll repeat myself: it's a completely unsubtle reference. You'd be better off naming the ship after one of Sauron's other names (which are far cooler anyway) if you absolutely must tie a ship to that character. It's like calling a ship Voldemort or something. It jumps out at the player far too much and breaks immersion.
But in any case it doesn't look like we're going to come to an agreement here.
Methinks using names like Morgoth (he's so much more badass than Sauron anyway) or his other, less known names, like Bauglir ("The one who forces").
Or Gothmog (the lord of Balrogs)
there are so many good names, like:
Umarth - the cursed one
Uruloki - the fire serpent
Valaraukar - mighty evil spirit (a.k.a. Balrog)
Thangorodrim - tyrants hills/mountains
rtc...
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Now that actually sounds like a good idea. Use some of the more obscure names from Tolkien.
Norse mythology has always gotten my interest. I just haven't had the chance to learn much of it.
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I agree with Asuko, a name like Thangorodrim sound perfect for a slow moving warship.
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I agree with Asuko, a name like Thangorodrim sound perfect for a slow moving warship.
To be worthy of the name, a ship like that would have to be one-of-a-kind, ultra-slow, about the size of two Orions stacked on top of each other, and have lots of little turrets and pointy parts sticking out of the surface.
And be lit from behind by a red sun. ALL THE TIME.
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More like the size of two collosuses :eek2: :jaw:
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Heh, sounds like fun. The Silmarillion is a good place to look for more of the obscure Tolkien names.
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Well, I believe Volition classed each species with an Empire, or nation, to give them all a connection. I BELIEVE it goes like this:
Terrans : Greek mythology - Myrmidon, Hercules, and Terran is derived from 'Terra' , which is... Greek? It may be Latin, for earth.
Vasudans : Egyptian mythology - Anubis, and, they are all very intrested in Egypian culture.
Shivans : Indian (like, from India) mythology - Scorpio, and just the word 'Shivan' is derived from 'Shiva' The Indian (?) goddess of Creation and rebirth
I think I got it right. I have been playing Freespace for several years. My dad got it from his friend, and I was about... 6. He burned the game to CDs, and I just played the campaign OVER , and OVER. (Playing Judas scared me. All alone, surrounded by Shivans...) And I heard about a sequel. I jumped in the air, and yelled, goody goody! I bought it over E-Bay a few days later. Then, while looking for mods/campaigns, I found Hard-Light, and the wonders it holds.
P.S. Thanks Goob! :D
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You're welcome. :)
...for what? :nervous:
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To be worthy of the name, a ship like that would have to be one-of-a-kind, ultra-slow, about the size of two Orions stacked on top of each other, and have lots of little turrets and pointy parts sticking out of the surface.
And be lit from behind by a red sun. ALL THE TIME.
Wasn't Thangorodrim Morgoths fortress carved into the mountain (actually, it was MADE from the mountains or something) with lots of spikes resembling a crown?
Making a ship as frightening and big as that would be wicked....hmmm....
Heh, sounds like fun. The Silmarillion is a good place to look for more of the obscure Tolkien names.
Very good one. I just opened the dictionary randomly at the end of the book and picked up a few more menacing sounding names from the two pages. There's a lot more pages to go, and a lot more names.One can even forge his own names with relative ease.
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Well, I believe Volition classed each species with an Empire, or nation, to give them all a connection. I BELIEVE it goes like this:
Terrans : Greek mythology - Myrmidon, Hercules, and Terran is derived from 'Terra' , which is... Greek? It may be Latin, for earth.
Vasudans : Egyptian mythology - Anubis, and, they are all very intrested in Egypian culture.
Shivans : Indian (like, from India) mythology - Scorpio, and just the word 'Shivan' is derived from 'Shiva' The Indian (?) goddess of Creation and rebirth
That's all true. Terra is most likely from Latin though. Greek mythos used Gaea, or Gaia depending on the translation.
The Silmarillion rocks in general. It plods on but since all the stories are loosely related to each other, it's not a solid block of paper that you would have to read.
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Terran uses a jumbled collection of norse, greek, and latin :p
Vasudans use egyptian names.
And SHIVANS use Indian, biblical, and... celtic? *cough*Taranis*cough*
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Taranis is celtic? Wow, it is but where was Taranis used?
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Taranis is celtic? Wow, it is but where was Taranis used?
In FS1. It was a Cain that the GTA captured.
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Ohh, that ship. Forgot about it.
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Terra is Latin...and Italian ;7
Methinks using names like Morgoth (he's so much more badass than Sauron anyway) or his other, less known names, like Bauglir ("The one who forces").
Or Gothmog (the lord of Balrogs)
there are so many good names, like:
Umarth - the cursed one
Uruloki - the fire serpent
Valaraukar - mighty evil spirit (a.k.a. Balrog)
Thangorodrim - tyrants hills/mountains
rtc...
Well...
1) Gothmog was the lord of the balrogs, not Morgoth. An Orc general of the third era(the one seen in LOTR: RotK) was named after him;
2) Uruloki, fire serpent, basically stands for "dragon"(not winged dragons, there's another word for them);
3) Valaraukar is plural. It should be Valarauko. It's just the Quenya equivalent of the Sindarin Balrog.
Ohh, that ship. Forgot about it.
There always is the FreeSpace Wiki for quick references :)
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Meh, this be a Freespace noob anyway. :P
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1000th post in reply. Anyways--I thought of using the Kama Sutra once too. That would ahve proved fatal though.
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Well...
1) Gothmog was the lord of the balrogs, not Morgoth. An Orc general of the third era(the one seen in LOTR: RotK) was named after him;
2) Uruloki, fire serpent, basically stands for "dragon"(not winged dragons, there's another word for them);
3) Valaraukar is plural. It should be Valarauko. It's just the Quenya equivalent of the Sindarin Balrog.
You question my knowledge of Tolkien? :eek2:
Heresy! :hopping:
*btw - read what I wrote about Gothmog a bit better. I never wrote Morgoth was the lord og Barlogs (alltough in a way he was, he was the uber ultimate bad guy compared to which Sauron looks like my little pony)
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Heresy? :wtf:
I proved you wrong. Karajorma does it, too :P
There's a difference between Morgoth, Lord of Balrogs and The Balrog Gothmog, Lord of of Balrogs.
The plural of Balrog shouldn't even be Balrogs, but I have never studied Sindarin, I find it too Germanic(unlike Quenya, that is Italian-Latin like ;7).
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Hooray orcing! No, stop it completely.
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Japanese names of historical ships, this could keep you going a looooong time on GTVA craft.
http://www.combinedfleet.com/cvlist.htm (carriers)
http://www.combinedfleet.com/lancers.htm (destroyers)
http://www.combinedfleet.com//Junyokan.htm (cruisers)
http://www.combinedfleet.com/senkan.htm (battleships)
http://www.combinedfleet.com/Tokusetsu%20Kansen!.htm (http://www.combinedfleet.com/Tokusetsu%20Kansen!.htm) (auxiliaries and smaller combatants)
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Haha, there's also the list of WWII ships on Wikipedia. That was fun to peruse in school.
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Heresy? :wtf:
I proved you wrong. Karajorma does it, too :P
There's a difference between Morgoth, Lord of Balrogs and The Balrog Gothmog, Lord of of Balrogs.
The plural of Balrog shouldn't even be Balrogs, but I have never studied Sindarin, I find it too Germanic(unlike Quenya, that is Italian-Latin like ;7).
No you havn't.
I never mixed up Morgoth and Gothmog. Learn how to read.
And I'm not writing the sentance in elvish, I'm writing it in english, thus it IS Barlogs.
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No you havn't.
I never mixed up Morgoth and Gothmog. Learn how to read.
And I'm not writing the sentance in elvish, I'm writing it in english, thus it IS Barlogs.
:rolleyes:
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WEll, I can see why you think I mixed it up. I was talking of Morgoth and then continued to list other good sounding names Tolkien tought of:
Methinks using names like Morgoth (he's so much more badass than Sauron anyway) or his other, less known names, like Bauglir ("The one who forces").
Or Gothmog (the lord of Balrogs)
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Ok, ok...but Valaraukar is plural :rolleyes:
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Not sure about that one. I got it from Silmarillions dictionary on the back..so I'd assume it's singular as dictionaries always are.
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Singular: Valarauko
Plural: Valaraukar
:rolleyes: