NOOOOOO!!!!! i deleted all my effing MediaVPs only to find out that the files are in .rar format! DAMMIT!
NOOOOOO!!!!! i deleted all my effing MediaVPs only to find out that the files are in .rar format! DAMMIT!
Seriously Titan, will you tell your parents that Winzip is not free and 7-zip is? I mean if you haven't paid for Winzip, you're technically violating their license after 30 days or whatever, but 7-zip is completely free.
Not to mention Linux *shrug*Seriously Titan, will you tell your parents that Winzip is not free and 7-zip is? I mean if you haven't paid for Winzip, you're technically violating their license after 30 days or whatever, but 7-zip is completely free.
But dem uvver prograyums, dey gawt VAHRUSES in them! Da 5:00 news sez so!
That, I think, is the most likely problem with his parents. They probably think that 7zip and other programs were created by "hackers" out to destroy people's computers.
NOOOOOO!!!!! i deleted all my effing MediaVPs only to find out that the files are in .rar format! DAMMIT!
P.S. you can't win this argument guys, you know that? nothing in the world will make my parents get 7-zip or winRAR, so stop freakin out about this.
P.S. you can't win this argument guys, you know that? nothing in the world will make my parents get 7-zip or winRAR, so stop freakin out about this.It's not about us winning this argument. It's about you taking a stand at home and explaining the joys and wonders of open source to your folks. Your dad can't be sceptic of 7-Zip if he can take a look at the source code and determine exactly what the program does.
but i would still like the new mediavps...Easy. Download them. And use the archive program of your choice to extract them. There are many options to choose from: 7-Zip, WinRAR, Ultimatezip (dang, I had almost forgotten this even existed)...
P.S. you can't win this argument guys, you know that? nothing in the world will make my parents get 7-zip or winRAR, so stop freakin out about this.It's not about us winning this argument. It's about you taking a stand at home and explaining the joys and wonders of open source to your folks. Your dad can't be sceptic of 7-Zip if he can take a look at the source code and determine exactly what the program does.
And what kind of a computer genius is he if he only uses Winzip?
Edit:but i would still like the new mediavps...Easy. Download them. And use the archive program of your choice to extract them. There are many options to choose from: 7-Zip, WinRAR, Ultimatezip (dang, I had almost forgotten this even existed)...
He's not gonna do it. :POh, but he must. It is the only way.
This is getting off topic. I split the thread to avoid cluttering up the media VP one.Good idea, but now most of the replys have crooked subjects and this thread is also stickied.
This is getting off topic. I split the thread to avoid cluttering up the media VP one.Good idea, but now most of the replys have crooked subjects and this thread is also stickied.
File size: 1.1MB (download), 2.1Mb (installed)Shoud fit with ease.
(remember when i had that problem transferring the inferno installer because i was 3 megabites short? i still don't have it, come to thinkUm, dude. Cole politely cut the installer down to bits and posted links to an Inferno thread. Why, with the power of the Death Star, have you not ****ing downloaded it yet?
And i think that my parents don't trust the internet because... well, you know how most parents are letting their kids play call of duty and stuff by age 8? My parents are just starting to let me play teen games now, and i'm 12. That's the kind of parents they are. They just don't want anything to happen to me, and (more importantly) by extension, them. Besides, they don't know you guys like i do. If my dad was, like, an active member of the community (THAT'S A RETORICAL SUGGESTION PEOPLE!) then this probably wouldn't be happening.
His dad's a programmer. He would know in 5 seconds.
Are you being sarcastic? I suck at sarcasm on the internet.
Or he walks in "I DON'T NOTICE ANYTHING OUT OF THE ORDINARY!!!!!".Are you being sarcastic? I suck at sarcasm on the internet.
Okay fine I was being stupid (woopsies).
Put it this way: Titan installs 7zip. His dad walks in. "RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWRRRRR!!!!" :D
i didn't exactly ask them about any of the campaigns i've gotten recently, but installing a program on the comp is a little harder to cover up. and how big is the portable 7-zip, cuz my memory stick is only about 132 megabites. (remember when i had that problem transferring the inferno installer because i was 3 megabites short? i still don't have it, come to think)
my dad is a senior test engineer, he programs devices and stuff for GE. and i doubt he's ever heard of winRAR. he doesn't care about that stuff.Seriously. He does programming but doesn't know about open source? I mean, dude. Are you serious that he doesn't know about open source or thinks that open source = viruses? Not caring about stuff is one thing. I, for example, don't care about cordless mice. But he should still know at least something about archive programs. And open source. And it shouldn't take too long for him to understand that Winzip = payments/poor archive type support and 7-Zip = free/good archive type support.
my dad is a senior test engineer, he programs devices and stuff for GE. and i doubt he's ever heard of winRAR. he doesn't care about that stuff.Seriously. He does programming but doesn't know about open source? I mean, dude. Are you serious that he doesn't know about open source or thinks that open source = viruses? Not caring about stuff is one thing. I, for example, don't care about cordless mice. But he should still know at least something about archive programs. And open source. And it shouldn't take too long for him to understand that Winzip = payments/poor archive type support and 7-Zip = free/good archive type support.
Seriously. He does programming but doesn't know about open source? I mean, dude.
:eek2: Is that the original?!?!Seriously. He does programming but doesn't know about open source? I mean, dude.
(http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/1287/09f911029d74e35bd84156czd8.jpg)
Seriously. He does programming but doesn't know about open source? I mean, dude.
(http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/1287/09f911029d74e35bd84156czd8.jpg)
(http://omglol.kerrolisaa.com/1/8779.jpg)Seriously. He does programming but doesn't know about open source? I mean, dude.
(http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/1287/09f911029d74e35bd84156czd8.jpg)
The strip itself is a meme,Shh, don't say that out loud or the officials will come and beat us all up. Right, I gogoled it myself and found the same thing.the code has something to do with HD-DVDs.
ok, i'm gonna ask my dad, but if he says no, i'm not getting it. and i' gonna ask aabout winRAR, 'cuz that's from microsoft and he trust them... i hope :DWinRAR isn't from M$. Neither is WinZIP. The only M$ unzipper is the zipped folder thingy.
And I do find Titan's predicament rather amusing (no offense), because from the time our family first bought a Windows 95 machine, my parents understood very little about its inner workings. I pretty much had free rein over our family's systems from the beginning; in fact, I feel certain their current machine would have died years ago had I not.
Actually, yes, say it's from Microsoft or any other company he likes. From the description of him you've given, there is no way he will be able to tell. :pMy dad thinks he is, but I surpassed him a few months ago.QuoteAnd I do find Titan's predicament rather amusing (no offense), because from the time our family first bought a Windows 95 machine, my parents understood very little about its inner workings. I pretty much had free rein over our family's systems from the beginning; in fact, I feel certain their current machine would have died years ago had I not.
I'm also the computer guy around the family and never had trouble with anything like this. I would think our situation is much more common.
I always get a :wtf: whenever I talk to any member of my family about anything more complex than 'optical mouse'. And it has been like that for many years.I'm also the computer guy around the family and never had trouble with anything like this. I would think our situation is much more common.My dad thinks he is, but I surpassed him a few months ago.
You people are cruel.We are :D
Use the portable version.I think he misunderstood the proper procedure since he still tried to fit the Inf installer in his stick and failed. Then his dad sold his laptop. Fail.
Quote from: colecampbell666Use the portable version.I think he misunderstood the proper procedure since he still tried to fit the Inf installer in his stick and failed. Then his dad sold his laptop. Fail.
I think he misunderstood the proper procedure since he still tried to fit the Inf installer in his stick and failed. Then his dad sold his laptop. Fail.
Ah, but surely he wouldn't approve that, unless the said nerd was using a Microsoft keyboard. *shrug*I think he misunderstood the proper procedure since he still tried to fit the Inf installer in his stick and failed. Then his dad sold his laptop. Fail.
A Dorito-encrusted Linux nerd with a neckbeard should break through Titan's father's window and slap him across the face with a keyboard for two hours straight.
:lol:Ah, but surely he wouldn't approve that, unless the said nerd was using a Microsoft keyboard. *shrug*I think he misunderstood the proper procedure since he still tried to fit the Inf installer in his stick and failed. Then his dad sold his laptop. Fail.
A Dorito-encrusted Linux nerd with a neckbeard should break through Titan's father's window and slap him across the face with a keyboard for two hours straight.
Life sucks and then you die.
Quote from: colecampbell666Use the portable version.I think he misunderstood the proper procedure since he still tried to fit the Inf installer in his stick and failed. Then his dad sold his laptop. Fail.
Exactly!
I think he knows this, but his dad doesn't.Quote from: colecampbell666Use the portable version.I think he misunderstood the proper procedure since he still tried to fit the Inf installer in his stick and failed. Then his dad sold his laptop. Fail.
Exactly!
Read this carefully.
1. Go here: http://portableapps.com/apps/utilities/7-zip_portable
2. Click Download Now.
3. Connect your USB key to the computer.
4. When it finishes downloading, double-click on 7-zip_portable_4.57.paf.exe
5. When it asks you where to extract to, set it to extract to your USB key.
6. When it has finished extracting, go into the USB key, find the 7-ZipPortable folder, and open 7ZipPortable.exe.
7. Now, click File -> Open.
8. Select any WinRAR or 7Zip format file ON YOUR LOCAL COMPUTER and open it.
9. Click Extract, and extract to your favorite FreeSpace folder (or other).
*The portable app is about 5 MB. It can easily fit on any USB key. Delete some porn if you have to.
*You DO NOT have to put the archive files on the USB key with the portable app. The application runs from the USB key but it can access files anywhere on the computer.
*Portable applications DO NOT install shortcuts or registry files, and all application data goes onto the USB key. It doesn't touch the local computer, at all.
Finally, WinZIP and WinRAR are not made by Microsoft. Both archiver's are made by proprietary companies and are frankly much more likely to have malware, spyware, or crap that will annoy you on your computer than an open-source application like 7Zip. Open-Source applications are tested by thousands of people who use them on a daily basis, have a huge programmer database, and are by definition unobtrusive (much of the momentum of open-source comes from users who hate the bloat and "features" companies like Microsoft build into their software).
So, use the portable application, or tell your Dad all of this. For reference, the US Department of Defence uses open-source file recovery software as a military grade application - I THINK that maybe, just maybe, it's safe to use on a home PC.
For reference, the US Department of Defence uses open-source file recovery software as a military grade application - I THINK that maybe, just maybe, it's safe to use on a home PC.
That's like saying "The US government uses Uranium in military-grade hardware, that must mean it's okay to use Uranium at home.":nervous: Wait... so you're saying it isn't?
QuoteFor reference, the US Department of Defence uses open-source file recovery software as a military grade application - I THINK that maybe, just maybe, it's safe to use on a home PC.
That's like saying "The US government uses Uranium in military-grade hardware, that must mean it's okay to use Uranium at home."
Got a new idea:
QuoteFor reference, the US Department of Defence uses open-source file recovery software as a military grade application - I THINK that maybe, just maybe, it's safe to use on a home PC.
That's like saying "The US government uses Uranium in military-grade hardware, that must mean it's okay to use Uranium at home."
Actually no, it isn't like that at all... but don't let context get in the way for you.
No... :wtf: He's trying to prove to Titan's dad that open source is safe and useful. If the US Government uses it, it must be good.QuoteFor reference, the US Department of Defence uses open-source file recovery software as a military grade application - I THINK that maybe, just maybe, it's safe to use on a home PC.
That's like saying "The US government uses Uranium in military-grade hardware, that must mean it's okay to use Uranium at home."
Actually no, it isn't like that at all... but don't let context get in the way for you.
You're basically saying that all open source software is be-all-end-all awesome, just because the US military uses an open source file recovery system. It doesn't even work in this situation, because 7-zip isn't that file recovery program.
No... :wtf: He's trying to prove to Titan's dad that open source is safe and useful. If the US Government uses it, it must be good.QuoteFor reference, the US Department of Defence uses open-source file recovery software as a military grade application - I THINK that maybe, just maybe, it's safe to use on a home PC.
That's like saying "The US government uses Uranium in military-grade hardware, that must mean it's okay to use Uranium at home."
Actually no, it isn't like that at all... but don't let context get in the way for you.
You're basically saying that all open source software is be-all-end-all awesome, just because the US military uses an open source file recovery system. It doesn't even work in this situation, because 7-zip isn't that file recovery program.
And is one file recovery program enough to represent open source programing in its entirety? I suppose for some people it might be, but any half-intelligent person wouldn't trust something based on a single example. And I can't quite say which group of people Titan's dad would belong to in this situation.
If it were me who didn't like open source, I would respond saying that just because one open source program is approved by the government doesn't mean that all of them are good. Plus they're all developed by as many different developing groups, some of which's team members are continents apart.
No; it's a single demonstration of one particular example of the trust afforded to open-source software. However, we can launch into several others too. Governments around the world have embraced Linux; Sun Java is the backing behind OpenOffice; the US military has actively promoted open-source development of file carvers.
The point is not that its one example of a particular type of open-source software; the point is the concept has been embraced by large organizations and millions of people around the world.
Don't let contextual relevance or big picture thinking get in the way of a good nitpick session though.
No... :wtf: He's trying to prove to Titan's dad that open source is safe and useful. If the US Government uses it, it must be good.Oh wait...
*The portable app is about 5 MB. It can easily fit on any USB key. Delete some porn if you have to.
*The portable app is about 5 MB. It can easily fit on any USB key. Delete some porn if you have to.
WTF?
No... :wtf: He's trying to prove to Titan's dad that open source is safe and useful. If the US Government uses it, it must be good.Oh wait...
Idk, maybe he thought there was mandatory hidden porn on there he had to delete in order to have room for 7-zip. And if there was a such thing as mandatory hidden porn on a thumb drive, it might be scary to think of what pictures the manufacturer put on there. If this were true yet again, people'd be paying more attention to the names such as A.S.S. (Assistive Secure Storage) and T.I.T.S (Teacher Instructional Technical Storage).
If you're dad works at a hardware companyFor future reference, it's "your".
Shut up. :pIf you're dad works at a hardware companyFor future reference, it's "your".
No one probably cares but I typed that in a decent caffeine high. Ah, fun times...Shut up. :pIf you're dad works at a hardware companyFor future reference, it's "your".
FWIW, I typed that at 12:30 after doing a huge homework assignment.
ok, i got winRAR. i asked mom if i could get an update for FS, then predtended that i hadn't known it was rar, asked her if i could get this little, free windows program to open it. she said yes. boo-ya! a whole new world is open to me!
winRAR, it has "win" in it. my parents will believe that.
winRAR, it has "win" in it. my parents will believe that.
*smacks forehead*
You didn't actually read anything any of us said about WinRAR or 7Zip, did you? :wtf:
He's saying that if it has "Win" in it, his parents will believe that it is from Micro$oft.
Just name it "Winzip" and tell 'em that it's a new version, with less emphasis on the graphical side.C'mon, how can this be taken seriously? A Micro$oft software with less emphasis on the graphical side? :lol:
Just name it "Winzip" and tell 'em that it's a new version, with less emphasis on the graphical side.
Mr. and Mrs. Titan can't be sure of that.Just name it "Winzip" and tell 'em that it's a new version, with less emphasis on the graphical side.C'mon, how can this be taken seriously? A Micro$oft software with less emphasis on the graphical side? :lol: