[Titan]

NOOOOOO!!!!! i deleted all my effing MediaVPs only to find out that the files are in .rar format! DAMMIT!

[Herra Tohtori]

http://www.7-zip.org/

[Jeff Vader]

Won't help. His parents still think that any non-Winzip archive program is made by the Devil^TM himself.

[Flaser]

NOOOOOO!!!!! i deleted all my effing MediaVPs only to find out that the files are in .rar format! DAMMIT!

Download and burn an Ubuntu Live CD/DVD.
Not only will you be able to handle such files without installing anything on your comp, you'd also learn Linux which is a good thing nowadays.

[Cobra]

NOOOOOO!!!!! i deleted all my effing MediaVPs only to find out that the files are in .rar format! DAMMIT!

I'm sorry, but I can't resist.

That is pathetic.

[chief1983]

Seriously Titan, will you tell your parents that Winzip is not free and 7-zip is?  I mean if you haven't paid for Winzip, you're technically violating their license after 30 days or whatever, but 7-zip is completely free.

[Woolie Wool]

Seriously Titan, will you tell your parents that Winzip is not free and 7-zip is?  I mean if you haven't paid for Winzip, you're technically violating their license after 30 days or whatever, but 7-zip is completely free.

But dem uvver prograyums, dey gawt VAHRUSES in them! Da 5:00 news sez so!

That, I think, is the most likely problem with his parents. They probably think that 7zip and other programs were created by "hackers" out to destroy people's computers.

[Jeff Vader]

Seriously Titan, will you tell your parents that Winzip is not free and 7-zip is?  I mean if you haven't paid for Winzip, you're technically violating their license after 30 days or whatever, but 7-zip is completely free.

But dem uvver prograyums, dey gawt VAHRUSES in them! Da 5:00 news sez so!

That, I think, is the most likely problem with his parents. They probably think that 7zip and other programs were created by "hackers" out to destroy people's computers.

Not to mention Linux *shrug*

[Titan]

NOOOOOO!!!!! i deleted all my effing MediaVPs only to find out that the files are in .rar format! DAMMIT!

ummm.... ok, i'm REALLY sorry about that, but i was having a really bad day, and the fact the i ruined my freespace stuff was sorta just an excuse to take that day's frustration out on someone.

And i think that my parents don't trust the internet because... well, you know how most parents are letting their kids play call of duty and stuff by age 8? My parents are just starting to let me play teen games now, and i'm 12. That's the kind of parents they are. They just don't want anything to happen to me, and (more importantly) by extension, them. Besides, they don't know you guys like i do. If my dad was, like, an active member of the community (THAT'S A RETORICAL SUGGESTION PEOPLE!) then this probably wouldn't be happening.

P.S. you can't win this argument guys, you know that? nothing in the world will make my parents get 7-zip or winRAR, so stop freakin out about this.

I'M SAVED!!!

I found the files for the old mediavps in my comp's recycle bin. but i would still like the new mediavps... plz

[Polpolion]

P.S. you can't win this argument guys, you know that? nothing in the world will make my parents get 7-zip or winRAR, so stop freakin out about this.

No matter how 1337 of a programmer your dad is, he will never be computer literate if he is scared of winrar.

[Jeff Vader]

P.S. you can't win this argument guys, you know that? nothing in the world will make my parents get 7-zip or winRAR, so stop freakin out about this.

It's not about us winning this argument. It's about you taking a stand at home and explaining the joys and wonders of open source to your folks. Your dad can't be sceptic of 7-Zip if he can take a look at the source code and determine exactly what the program does.

And what kind of a computer genius is he if he only uses Winzip?

Edit:

but i would still like the new mediavps...

Easy. Download them. And use the archive program of your choice to extract them. There are many options to choose from: 7-Zip, WinRAR, Ultimatezip (dang, I had almost forgotten this even existed)...

[CP5670]

This is getting off topic. I split the thread to avoid cluttering up the media VP one.

[edit] It seems that some glitch occurred with the post headers. Should be fixed now.

[Cobra]

P.S. you can't win this argument guys, you know that? nothing in the world will make my parents get 7-zip or winRAR, so stop freakin out about this.

It's not about us winning this argument. It's about you taking a stand at home and explaining the joys and wonders of open source to your folks. Your dad can't be sceptic of 7-Zip if he can take a look at the source code and determine exactly what the program does.

And what kind of a computer genius is he if he only uses Winzip?

Edit:

but i would still like the new mediavps...

Easy. Download them. And use the archive program of your choice to extract them. There are many options to choose from: 7-Zip, WinRAR, Ultimatezip (dang, I had almost forgotten this even existed)...

He'll be all "I'm gonna download this anyways!" Then his daddy finds about it and grounds him for a month.

[Jeff Vader]

He's not gonna do it.

Oh, but he must. It is the only way.

This is getting off topic. I split the thread to avoid cluttering up the media VP one.

Good idea, but now most of the replys have crooked subjects and this thread is also stickied.

[CP5670]

This is getting off topic. I split the thread to avoid cluttering up the media VP one.

Good idea, but now most of the replys have crooked subjects and this thread is also stickied.

It does that by default if the original topic was sticky. I set it back.

[Herra Tohtori]

Been there, done that... kinda. My parents weren't quite as restrictive as Titan's seem to be, but for a long long time they did tell me not to download and install any new stuff on their computer because it "works perfectly well as it is, thank you" (which, incidentally, wasn't and ISN'T true, but they just don't notice it).

I got bored of it and just started installing whatever it was that I needed. Got an occasional shouting of the "what've you been up to AGAIN" when ever their computer managed to jam itself up (which was always more related to the system's general screwed-upness and not individual programs wreaking havoc within it), but I pretty much just stopped caring at that point. I would have preferred my parents to just give me free hands with the proggies, but it worked out in the end... kinda. It does probably take a certain cloak-and-dagger mentality to keep a level face with them, but it's pretty easy to pull a wool over their eyes.

A non-intrusive method would be running portable applications, which I would've preferred had they existed back then in the proportions they do now. These programs are NOT INSTALLED on the system. They do no changes on the system. There are no registry entries to be tracked. They can be run from, say, USB stick drive, or a memory card or CD directly. Or, you can copy the working folder onto your personal files and use it from there, doesn't matter, makes no difference from the C:\WINDOWS / C:\Program Files point of view.

PortableApps.com

Includes, for example:

-Portable Firefox
-Portable 7-zip (we have a winner)
-Portable VLC Media Player
-Portable GIMP

and all kinds of things and gadgets you'll find very useful by the end of the day, like Notepad++ and other stuff like that.


Go there. Download. Install them somewhere on the system, any folder visible in the windows explorer will do - even those on USB keys or memory cards. Run the 7zip executable, extract what you need, and be done with it. Have clean conscience and whiter teeth, since you've done nothing to the system but have gotten where you wanted to be.

PortableApps is made of gold and win. Thus endeth the lesson.

[MP-Ryan]

Titan, do you own a USB key?

If so, go here:  http://portableapps.com/apps/utilities/7-zip_portable

Download the portable version of 7zip and install it on your USB key.  Then it doesn't even touch your parents computer, and your dad can't complain - if he is indeed a knowledgeable computer programmer, because he'll know that portable applications run from whichever location they're installed on, in this case your portable device. (EDIT: Herra beat me to it).

I find it rather amusing that they have no problem with you downloading mediaVPs created by a fan-base community but 7zip, an open-source archiver with huge backing is "untrustworthy.

Time to load up the website and introduce your father to open-source technology; he's missing out.

[jdjtcagle]

Cool!

[Jeff Vader]

Oh, that reminds me. I have to get that Firefox Portable since the hallway computers at the university have had only Infernal Exploder after the latest update/upgrade procedure.

[Titan]

i didn't exactly ask them about any of the campaigns i've gotten recently, but installing a program on the comp is a little harder to cover up. and how big is the portable 7-zip, cuz my memory stick is only about 132 megabites. (remember when i had that problem transferring the inferno installer because i was 3 megabites short? i still don't have it, come to think)