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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Nuclear1 on June 14, 2008, 11:21:03 pm

Title: Ha! Beat you malware ****!
Post by: Nuclear1 on June 14, 2008, 11:21:03 pm
There seems to be some nasty new malware creeping around the web now. If you haven't recently and are running Windows, check your computer for a folder called NetProject: this is malware.

I ran Malwarebytes' program and got it taken care of but only three hours of BSOD.
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Post by: achtung on June 15, 2008, 01:49:07 am
I love Fedora.
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Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on June 15, 2008, 01:56:00 am
I'm using a Mac. Should I care?
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Post by: Nuclear1 on June 15, 2008, 02:00:32 am
No you shouldn't.
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Post by: Ashrak on June 15, 2008, 04:10:42 am
trend micro kicks ass.....
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Post by: Scuddie on June 15, 2008, 10:24:09 pm
You know what kicks even more ass?  Wearing an e-condom while dicking around on the internet.
What's better than that?  Not dicking around on the internet in the first place.

Remember kids:  If you get an infection, it's your own god damned fault.
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Post by: BloodEagle on June 15, 2008, 10:27:19 pm
Remember kids:  If you get an infection, it's your own god damned fault.

That's going in my list of quotes.  :lol:
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Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on June 15, 2008, 11:53:12 pm
You know what kicks even more ass?  Wearing an e-condom while dicking around on the internet.
What's better than that?  Not dicking around on the internet in the first place.

Remember kids:  If you get an infection, it's your own god damned fault.

Forget doing it online. Some weeks back, while I was sitting on the train, I saw and advertisement for a 0.03mm condom. They wrap that, along with a 0.06mm one, around a banana. :eek:
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Post by: nubbles526 on June 16, 2008, 09:33:38 am
Forget doing it online. Some weeks back, while I was sitting on the train, I saw and advertisement for a 0.03mm condom. They wrap that, along with a 0.06mm one, around a banana. :eek:

That is wrong...

Since we are talking about malware, wasn't there a post about a superbug that will kill all PCs in the world?
Title: Re: Ha! Beat you malware ****!
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on June 16, 2008, 10:50:03 am
Then switch over to a Mac.
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Post by: Scuddie on June 16, 2008, 12:19:19 pm
Ah, the response of one who doesn't understand the differences between a PC and a Mac.

i.e. a maccie.
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Post by: Bob-san on June 16, 2008, 01:42:18 pm
No instability over here. Most spyware is aimed for the majority of internet users--the computer-illiterate. Ya know, the scorn of network admins &c.
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Post by: jdjtcagle on June 16, 2008, 02:25:10 pm
Ah, the response of one who doesn't understand the differences between a PC and a Mac.

i.e. a maccie.

I'm with Androgeos Exeunt on this, being on a PC all my life I love my Mac.  I'd admit that there are a few hardware differences tied into price but the OS is simply wonderful. 
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Post by: Scuddie on June 16, 2008, 02:47:05 pm
There are no hardware differences.  The hardware is identical.  The only thing tied into price is the sleek, hipster look and the OS, which is essentially BSD that doesn't allow you access to kernel mode or real mode layers of the OS.

This may be convenient for those who want it to 'just work', but it's horrible for people who want it to work a certain way.
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Post by: jdjtcagle on June 16, 2008, 02:56:29 pm
Not only does it just work but it works well, very well even with inferior hardware (say 1 gig ram on Mac runs better than 2 on pc) The hardware differences I was talking about was the price - I worded it wrong.
Title: Re: Ha! Beat you malware ****!
Post by: Ghostavo on June 16, 2008, 03:13:36 pm
Not only does it just work but it works well, very well even with inferior hardware (say 1 gig ram on Mac runs better than 2 on pc)


You realise that since a Mac IS a PC, that statement doesn't make sense.
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Post by: jdjtcagle on June 16, 2008, 03:27:46 pm
Calling me out on not being "politically correct" about whether or not a Mac is a PC is rhetoric.  The OS of a Mac utilizes the hardware more efficiently than that of Windows.

PC (personal computer) is culturally accepted as Windows, you understood the context but felt the need to be condescending. 

i.e. - Most people call "all" cotton swabs "Q tips" which is a brand of cotton swabs.
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Post by: Ghostavo on June 16, 2008, 03:45:16 pm
Calling me out on not being "politically correct" about whether or not a Mac is a PC is rhetoric.  The OS of a Mac utilizes the hardware more efficiently than that of Windows.

PC (personal computer) is culturally accepted as Windows, you understood the context but felt the need to be condescending. 

i.e. - Most people call "all" cotton swabs "Q tips" which is a brand of cotton swabs.

I don't care what a PC's OS is culturally accepted as. If you are prejudiced towards hardware that's more expensive based on what it's culturally accepted then that is retarded. Independent from what OS it runs, the better the hardware, the better a computer runs. You cannot contest that. Nothing stops you from buying whatever OS Apple sells and install it on a better machine than those overpriced machines they sell.

On that note, since people are so fond of repeatedly stating "My OS is better than your OS!" so I assume I can too play at that game. So without further ado, "My OS (http://www.gentoo.org/) runs better on a PC of similar components than Mac OS or whatever it's name is."

i.e. - I call cotton swabs "cotonetes" :p and yes, I'm taking the piss semi-seriously.

P.S.
But I don't seem to be the only one refering to Macs as PC's it seems. (http://www.apple.com/getamac/)  :rolleyes:
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Post by: achtung on June 16, 2008, 04:51:30 pm
I actually need to make myself sit down and go through a full Gentoo install some day.  I've heard it's a learning experience.  :p
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Post by: Mars on June 16, 2008, 05:01:11 pm
Mac, like all Unix, tends to use graphics cards really poorly.

In Kubuntu Linux I find my CPU seems faster and my graphics card seems slower.
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Post by: jdjtcagle on June 16, 2008, 05:02:19 pm
The only argument you have brought up is the price which I agree with you on.  The fact that Mac is a PC is not the argument and thus is only used to discredit me (i.e. rhetoric) 

I don't know anything about Linux or (Gentoo?) so cannot vouch for them.

Yes, the better the hardware the better the machine.  However Windows OS puts so much crap in memory as-well as buggy software that it doesn't do the hardware much justice.  Still for a "quality machine" IMHO it is wiser to buy a Mac purely because the cheapest macs around 700-1,000 (Mac Mini's and Macbooks) are way better machines than the more expensive Windows comps available today.

My job doing graphics design work, I get around so much easier on a Mac and 10 times more productive than a Windows.  Just the filing system, the flexible ram, and just the way you could switch between programs saves me alot of time.
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Post by: Ghostavo on June 16, 2008, 05:22:39 pm
Yes, the better the hardware the better the machine.  However Windows OS puts so much crap in memory as-well as buggy software that it doesn't do the hardware much justice.  Still for a "quality machine" IMHO it is wiser to buy a Mac purely because the cheapest macs around 700-1,000 (Mac Mini's and Macbooks) are way better machines than the more expensive Windows comps available today.

For the last time, PC's that aren't bought from Apple do not have to have Windows. Are you that thick? If you don't want to mess around with the OS, you still have alternatives like Ubuntu, Fedora, etc... which are just as easy to install. And if you want to mess around with it you have a whole lot of them (of which Gentoo is just one).

Regardless of this OS business, when I buy a hardware, I buy regardless of what the public opinion is. Afterall, most users couldn't tell their root from their ass. So in the end, Apple is just a company which is overly preocuppied with making outlandish claims about everything they make and not enough making sure that their products have the prices they should have.

I actually need to make myself sit down and go through a full Gentoo install some day.  I've heard it's a learning experience.  :p

It's an adventure!!
Title: Re: Ha! Beat you malware ****!
Post by: jdjtcagle on June 16, 2008, 05:43:51 pm
Yes, the better the hardware the better the machine.  However Windows OS puts so much crap in memory as-well as buggy software that it doesn't do the hardware much justice.  Still for a "quality machine" IMHO it is wiser to buy a Mac purely because the cheapest macs around 700-1,000 (Mac Mini's and Macbooks) are way better machines than the more expensive Windows comps available today.

For the last time, PC's that aren't bought from Apple do not have to have Windows. Are you that thick? If you don't want to mess around with the OS, you still have alternatives like Ubuntu, Fedora, etc... which are just as easy to install. And if you want to mess around with it you have a whole lot of them (of which Gentoo is just one).


Could be pretty thick because my range (experience) goes no further than Apple and Windows.  Of which I was arguing, not any other OS.
I thought that was made pretty clear.

I don't have the money to go blow on a computer, the computer I own was given to me.  The only OS's that I ever see around here are Windows and Mac, so I'll go for what I'm familiar with and a Mac does the job without the hassle of Windows.  Which I was what I'm talking about.
Title: Re: Ha! Beat you malware ****!
Post by: Ghostavo on June 16, 2008, 05:47:11 pm
Could be pretty thick because my range (experience) goes no further than Apple and Windows.  Of which I was arguing, not any other OS.
I thought that was made pretty clear.

I don't have the money to go blow on a computer, the computer I own was given to me.  The only OS's that I ever see around here are Windows and Mac, so I'll go for what I'm familiar with and a Mac does the job without the hassle of Windows.  Which I was what I'm talking about.

I apologise for being rude then. Still, my argument about the hardware still stands. Anyway, you could always try someday one of those OS I've refered to.
Title: Re: Ha! Beat you malware ****!
Post by: jdjtcagle on June 16, 2008, 07:45:07 pm
Could be pretty thick because my range (experience) goes no further than Apple and Windows.  Of which I was arguing, not any other OS.
I thought that was made pretty clear.

I don't have the money to go blow on a computer, the computer I own was given to me.  The only OS's that I ever see around here are Windows and Mac, so I'll go for what I'm familiar with and a Mac does the job without the hassle of Windows.  Which I was what I'm talking about.

I apologise for being rude then. Still, my argument about the hardware still stands. Anyway, you could always try someday one of those OS I've refered to.

No worries, I would like to try them if I'm ever in the market.  :)
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Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on June 16, 2008, 10:57:52 pm
Could be pretty thick because my range (experience) goes no further than Apple and Windows.  Of which I was arguing, not any other OS.
I thought that was made pretty clear.

I don't have the money to go blow on a computer, the computer I own was given to me.  The only OS's that I ever see around here are Windows and Mac, so I'll go for what I'm familiar with and a Mac does the job without the hassle of Windows.  Which I was what I'm talking about.

The problem with using a Mac is that there are few applications which run on it. The MacBook is even more problematic because it uses up a huge amount of battery power. If you were to set the sound and graphics on a MacBook to the lowest possible and run some program which causes the hard disk to start whirring, the battery will run out in two hours.
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Post by: Scuddie on June 17, 2008, 12:30:35 am
I won't go into detail why I hate MacOS with a passion, considering I'll sound just like a maccee if I do.

But to summarize:  For each their own...  ...And an OS that don't let me control, define, or customize anything about how it interfaces with the hardware is not for me.  I prefer 'Burn CD in Mode 1, DAO/96' and not just 'Burn CD', tyvm.
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Post by: Mars on June 17, 2008, 12:58:37 am
My friend was going to get a macbook for college...

I told him to save his money and get a Thinkpad

I remember somone posted a mac monitor for sale, and the exact same monitor, distributed by LG for $500 cheaper.
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Post by: jr2 on June 17, 2008, 01:55:45 am
There are ways of making Mac OS run on anything... ;)  Not legal of course (ty very much, Apple), but if you own Mac OS 10.5 I'd say screw them just do it.  You bought it.  I do what I want with what I buy.  eg Windows XP Pro.  I bought it... no, thank you, I don't want to activate it.  So I got another copy, identical except no activation.  Sweet.  :yes:  Pirated software FTW (if you own it legally, of course.  :lol: )

Although... has anyone noticed how much XP costs, and then though that this OS came out in like 2001??  :wtf:  Although since every service pack is like a new OS, perhaps not.  But every service pack is based on the same code, just patched and optimized.  Hmm.  Thoughts?
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Post by: Solatar on June 17, 2008, 02:06:42 am
XP is keeping my away from Vista...
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Post by: jr2 on June 17, 2008, 02:08:01 am
XP is keeping my away from Vista...

If you wanna do Vista, dual-boot it.  Use GParted Live CD (google it) to shrink your NTFS partition, and install Vista to the second partition.  It will detect XP and give it a boot menu entry.  ;)
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Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on June 17, 2008, 02:36:12 am
Alternatively, do things like messing around with application data and the PREFETCH folder. If you mess around with those correctly, your Windows OS should work at a much faster speed. I was fortunate, because my sister befriended a guy who eventually learned how to mess with Windows XP such that it runs much faster. He did his magic on my 256 MB computer, which has FS2_Open installed, and it worked. Before he came messing around, that computer took ten minutes to boot up. Now, it takes only five minutes to boot, probably less.
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Post by: jr2 on June 17, 2008, 03:44:03 am
www.nliteos.com < for messing with XP
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Post by: Ghostavo on June 17, 2008, 03:53:02 am
I remember somone posted a mac monitor for sale, and the exact same monitor, distributed by LG for $500 cheaper.

* raises hand *

It was worse than that. If I got it right, they were both made by LG and then one of them was put into a diferent frame (aka rebranded).