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Title: GTF Ulysses, GTT Ulysses, GTD Ulysses, GTCv Ulysses, GTC Ulysses, ...
Post by: MrMittens on June 25, 2008, 12:52:04 pm
So here's the deal: Everything Terran that I have to shoot is a Ulysses. The wing of Hercs has become Ulysses, the wing of Loki's have become Ulysses. It goes on. Why? This happened right after I started a new pilot, strangely. (Or to me, at least.) Whatup?
Title: Re: GTF Ulysses, GTT Ulysses, GTD Ulysses, GTCv Ulysses, GTC Ulysses, ...
Post by: Wanderer on June 25, 2008, 12:54:54 pm
Most probable cause is that ships defined in the mission files are not found from the currently used set of table files. This results in them being replaced by the default ship class which happens to be GTF Ulysses (on normal setup). In other words... Make sure your mission files and tables files are meant to work together.
Title: Re: GTF Ulysses, GTT Ulysses, GTD Ulysses, GTCv Ulysses, GTC Ulysses, ...
Post by: MrMittens on June 25, 2008, 01:01:32 pm
So I'm missing a table. . . Time to dig through my trash.
Title: Re: GTF Ulysses, GTT Ulysses, GTD Ulysses, GTCv Ulysses, GTC Ulysses, ...
Post by: Jeff Vader on June 25, 2008, 01:03:29 pm
Or you have an unwanted table file somewhere. Check any \data\tables folders for files. And make sure you don't have any extra vps in \freespace\. Or the mod folder you're using.
Title: Re: GTF Ulysses, GTT Ulysses, GTD Ulysses, GTCv Ulysses, GTC Ulysses, ...
Post by: blowfish on June 25, 2008, 01:04:11 pm
That's odd.  The default ships.tbl should be in root_fs2.vp.  Make sure you don't have any weird mods selected or anything...
Title: Re: GTF Ulysses, GTT Ulysses, GTD Ulysses, GTCv Ulysses, GTC Ulysses, ...
Post by: Swifty on June 25, 2008, 01:12:19 pm
In these situations, the best solution is to pretend that the GTVA and the NTF have gone into deficit spending and have cut their defense budgets accordingly.
Title: Re: GTF Ulysses, GTT Ulysses, GTD Ulysses, GTCv Ulysses, GTC Ulysses, ...
Post by: FreeSpaceFreak on June 25, 2008, 02:32:27 pm
:lol:
Title: Re: GTF Ulysses, GTT Ulysses, GTD Ulysses, GTCv Ulysses, GTC Ulysses, ...
Post by: terran_emperor on June 25, 2008, 04:11:38 pm
If you are playing TBP instead of Ulysses, you get the Aurora Starfury
Title: Re: GTF Ulysses, GTT Ulysses, GTD Ulysses, GTCv Ulysses, GTC Ulysses, ...
Post by: jr2 on June 25, 2008, 11:17:31 pm
So here's the deal: Everything Terran that I have to shoot is a Ulysses. The wing of Hercs has become Ulysses, the wing of Loki's have become Ulysses. It goes on. Why? This happened right after I started a new pilot, strangely. (Or to me, at least.) Whatup?

Perhaps you have a campaign selected that's not for the current mod.  e.g., perhaps you have FreeSpace 2 campaign selected whilst playing FSPort MOD?
Title: Re: GTF Ulysses, GTT Ulysses, GTD Ulysses, GTCv Ulysses, GTC Ulysses, ...
Post by: terran_emperor on June 26, 2008, 12:17:25 am
Or Inferno R1
Title: Re: GTF Ulysses, GTT Ulysses, GTD Ulysses, GTCv Ulysses, GTC Ulysses, ...
Post by: Droid803 on June 26, 2008, 12:39:02 am
No, if its InfernoR1, it wouldn't be a Ulysses. It would be a Vesuvius. There are no Ulysses in Inferno. The tbl was purged.
Or do you mean trying to play INFR1 with no mod selected...somehow...
Title: Re: GTF Ulysses, GTT Ulysses, GTD Ulysses, GTCv Ulysses, GTC Ulysses, ...
Post by: foolfromhell on June 26, 2008, 02:01:11 am
No, if its InfernoR1, it wouldn't be a Ulysses. It would be a Vesuvius. There are no Ulysses in Inferno. The tbl was purged.
Or do you mean trying to play INFR1 with no mod selected...somehow...

No. I remember my first time installing Inferno and all the corvettes in the beginning were turned into Ulysses.

Maybe this was an older build or something, but that's the way it was.
Title: Re: GTF Ulysses, GTT Ulysses, GTD Ulysses, GTCv Ulysses, GTC Ulysses, ...
Post by: S-99 on June 26, 2008, 02:23:10 am
So what happens when a ulysses playing the part of a destroyer tries to fire it's once existing beams?
Title: Re: GTF Ulysses, GTT Ulysses, GTD Ulysses, GTCv Ulysses, GTC Ulysses, ...
Post by: karajorma on June 26, 2008, 05:16:23 am
Won't happen. Either the game has already crashed because  the fire-beam SEXP referred to a non-existent subsystem or if beam-free-all'd the code notices the ship has no beams and ignores it.
Title: Re: GTF Ulysses, GTT Ulysses, GTD Ulysses, GTCv Ulysses, GTC Ulysses, ...
Post by: Stormkeeper on June 26, 2008, 06:12:27 am
In these situations, the best solution is to pretend that the GTVA and the NTF have gone into deficit spending and have cut their defense budgets accordingly.
:lol:

I remember once a helluva long time ago, I tried to play a mission, and the destroyer came in as an Ulyssess.
Title: Re: GTF Ulysses, GTT Ulysses, GTD Ulysses, GTCv Ulysses, GTC Ulysses, ...
Post by: S-99 on June 26, 2008, 11:28:18 am
You know, talk about an easy way to beat the game. It really is an easy way to beat it.
Title: Re: GTF Ulysses, GTT Ulysses, GTD Ulysses, GTCv Ulysses, GTC Ulysses, ...
Post by: Jeff Vader on June 26, 2008, 11:36:36 am
You know, talk about an easy way to beat the game. It really is an easy way to beat it.
The old, malfunctioning Destiny of Peace was at least. Even though there was some challenge in trying to tackle Ulysseses with an Ursa.
Title: Re: GTF Ulysses, GTT Ulysses, GTD Ulysses, GTCv Ulysses, GTC Ulysses, ...
Post by: Droid803 on June 26, 2008, 11:45:53 am
Ulysses are not easy to kill.
They're annoying, second to SF Dragons.

Or maybe, I just never figured out how to do it.
Title: Re: GTF Ulysses, GTT Ulysses, GTD Ulysses, GTCv Ulysses, GTC Ulysses, ...
Post by: Mobius on June 26, 2008, 11:50:43 am
Depends on their AI level. Set the max one and Ulysses fighters are more than annoying.
Title: Re: GTF Ulysses, GTT Ulysses, GTD Ulysses, GTCv Ulysses, GTC Ulysses, ...
Post by: foolfromhell on June 26, 2008, 12:10:37 pm
You know, talk about an easy way to beat the game. It really is an easy way to beat it.

Until, of course, you need to escort a Ulysses that was supposed to be an Orion or Deimos...
Title: Re: GTF Ulysses, GTT Ulysses, GTD Ulysses, GTCv Ulysses, GTC Ulysses, ...
Post by: Mobius on June 26, 2008, 12:16:21 pm
Yep, an Orion...I've experienced that with the Bastion(not in Clash of the Titans II).
Title: Re: GTF Ulysses, GTT Ulysses, GTD Ulysses, GTCv Ulysses, GTC Ulysses, ...
Post by: Stormkeeper on June 26, 2008, 12:16:47 pm
Until, of course, you need to escort a Ulysses that was supposed to be an Orion or Deimos...
That's actually what the Ulysses jumped in as. It was supposed to be a Warlock, iirc ... Oh, I remember now. It was a Inferno mission, but I somehow managed to start it out in normal FS2. So my Vesuvius(sp?) became an Ulysses.
Title: Re: GTF Ulysses, GTT Ulysses, GTD Ulysses, GTCv Ulysses, GTC Ulysses, ...
Post by: MrMittens on June 26, 2008, 01:04:28 pm
Oh, wow! Didn't think people would keep posting here. My bad! Fixed the problem. Found the right ships.tbl in my trash.