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Title: Relationships
Post by: Warp Shadow on July 23, 2008, 01:30:36 am
TL;DR WARNING! skip to the **

Being near the end of highschool, I've been through or at least been exposed to pretty much all that puberty has to throw at you. The only thing I really have remaining to face in my teen years is alcohol. So everyone can relate to me (well all over 113 guys here which is probably like 90% of the people here) when I talk about that subtle shift of girls from "annoying, noisy and strange" to "people" to "attractive". That's not what I'm talking about now. What I brought that up for was to say that happened several years ago and I'm basically at the point where you start contemplating relationships. Y'know, actual, lasting, more than just friends stuff. Past pubescent lust and into actual love. That's also not what I'm talking about. I know what you're thinking, I'm not asking for relationship advice in a ridiculously roundabout way. No, I have an 'abnormal' view I need to discuss.

See there was this girl I met a little while back. She was not really that much of a looker but was really smart and pretty fun to be around and so we started to be friends. Then as two years went by, she lost the braces, got contacts, her hair naturally changed to looking good rather than mousy and she ...filled out so shall we say >_>. Now I've known her for a while and it turns out we're into a lot of the same stuff and get along really well together and I started really being attracted to her. Like before we were just friends and now we started getting really close. At one point, everytime I saw her during the day, I would just lighten up and be in a good mood for the next 15 minutes. And I sorta realized eventually that I would be totally fine with being in a relationship with her. No apprehension, no worry, I feel so comfortable around her and I like her a lot and for the first time I actually felt like it would be awesome to be together. Way beyond usual crush crap.  And I was getting all sorts of signals from her too. I don't claim to be a playa but I am usually above average at telling what other people are thinking and feeling (more empathetic? is that the word) and it was starting to get pretty obvious. Eventually though we had to do dancing in gym and that's when things got weird.

You see, we got paired up randomly each time and every guy was terrified that they would get paired up with some ballet chick and **** up (especially since maybe 1/15 guys in that class danced) and we all just sort of got along in our inept, embarrassed teenager forced to do stuff and formed a sort of unsaid fellowship, with the common factor being that we were all being forced to perform 20 year out of date dances in front of a bunch of adults who thought we were "so adorable". Now eventually,a t the end, we all came in to a big empty room and the teachers just put on the music and said "dance". For the first 20 seconds, everybody just stood there with a WTF expression on their face. "Dance!" said the teachers! And so everyone waited for cues from someone else. The 3 or 4 leaders in the room bit the bullet to show everyone else what to do, took a girl and started dancing. I'm not really a leader, but I was proudly one of those few because I had right in mind who I wanted to dance with. I went straight up to her, asked her if she would dance, suddenly had a panic attack at the thought of "what if she says NO?!" and to my relief, after turning beet red and giggling a little she said yes. So far so good. Now we start on the first one and both being band kinds, we have pretty good rhythm so we simultaneously pick which of the dances we learned was the best for the beat! Sweet! First dance went really well and to my utter relief, it turns out I have rhythm and pretty good footwork (for a white boy >__>) and soon I no longer needed to focus on the steps and started looking around to see how everyone else was doing. I'd say 65% fell below me and 35% were doing better. Not too shabby! Then I turn to look at the person I'm dancing with, look her straight in the eyes and grinned a little at the thought of "wow, everyone makes such a big deal of asking a girl to dance but this is oddly easy!" and she looks back smiles blushes and wait for it....

Bows her head, covers her face and runs off to her friend.

WTF?!

Her friend (who she learned the dance steps together with because there were more girls than guys) was also dancing with a mild crush of hers and was feeling a bit embarrassed I suppose but liking it. And my partner asks her if she wants to dance jokingly but dead seriously. Girl b laughs yells "YEAH!" and they hold hands an heartily and energetically traipse away together, she seems totally relieved and is doing her best to ignore me, and seems a hell of a lot more at ease. Me and my fellow guy (who's an acquaintance of mine) just look at eachother and...well nothing. Nothing can be said to express what the hell just happened. I swear we could have been twins for that same look we both had on and no way in HELL are we dancing with eachother so I decide to be a buddy to him and give him an excuse not to. I open the gym door and leave. Teachers didn't notice, I was marked for attendance, no foul.

Now I see her the next day and she seems perfectly fine again, totally relaxed in the hallway and we talk like normal but now for some reason, I feel absolutely nothing. Not betrayed, not infatuated, no heart attack or gut spasm, no hate or bitterness, just professional politeness. I honestly felt the exact same way about her as you would your moms friend or something. And I'm still getting giggles and winks and desk moving but I can't bring myself to do anything more than just smile back and go back to work. It's weird. It's like I just I completely fell OUT of love with her. No harm done, no bad feelings just a return to square one. I can't, no matter how I try, evoke and feelings for her or imagine us together.

**
Not only that, but it happened to EVERY ****ING GIRL I SORT OF LIKED! I just lost interest in love completely! Snap! Like a switch. It took me a while to realize this but now, this is the clincher "I honestly don't care If I ever find someone". Like I could go through my entire life without a significant other and I would be totally fine. It scares me because I honestly believe that company isn't worth two ****s. I haven't gotten anymore independent. I still love to hang out and talk with my friends, it's just that, short of naked, women no longer hold any special interest for me. All I feel is a strange sense of freedom. A weird release from the pressure of having to find a girl, having to constantly work out and buy them stuff to make sure you keep their conditional love, the guilt and fear of being unattractive, the scary thoughts of all that stuff that happens after the first date, or even the pressure of dating at all. it's like an entire segment of human behaviour has been surgically removed from my soul and I can see clearly now that it's out and it looks like a bad kidney stone. Seriously, I am at the same time scared ****less, and approaching a state of contented zen.

Does ANYONE have any idea or like experience relating to this?

Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Mars on July 23, 2008, 01:47:04 am
High School relationships suck. Don't touch them, they always bite.

In my particular life, I've just graduated from High School. A woman in my life would complicate things beyond where they already are; right now I just need to get a job, go to college, and move out.

Until I have a (relatively) stable life of my own choosing, any relationship would be atrocious.

In High School, unless you're a very unusual person, your life is almost certainly not of your own choosing, and it almost certainly isn't stable. I've known many couples who believed their relationships would continue beyond High School, but two months later I know one couple who's still together, and they both basically know it's going to be over in November, when they move to opposite ends of the country.

**** buddies be damned, any real relationship is doomed in High School, don't worry about it, just accept it. Don't think about "lasting relationships" unless you have a very large cause to.
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Mefustae on July 23, 2008, 03:39:26 am
Remember children: If you're going to sleep with a girl and her mother, be sure not to mix up their phone numbers. I can't stress that strongly enough. Learn from my mistakes and you will prosper.
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: blackhole on July 23, 2008, 03:59:40 am
I have absolutely no idea what your going through, because I have never fallen in love with any girl, ever. No, I'm not gay. However, I tend to miss out on extremely large chunks of normal human experience and I can't honestly tell you that I think its a bad thing. What 99% of the world's teenagers seem to think is that unless they are acting like everyone else and doing what everyone does and experiencing what everyone else does, they're deprived and their life will suck.

Ooooook? People are different. If your not romantically interested in any girls right now, be thankful you don't have AIDS, and wait 'till collage; you'll probably end up getting AIDS anyway, but hey, thats collage. My point being, its not the end of the world. The end of the world is when a wormhole sucks up the entire planet into nullspace (god, that was such a bad movie).
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Mefustae on July 23, 2008, 04:20:24 am
Ooooook? People are different. If your not romantically interested in any girls right now, be thankful you don't have AIDS, and wait 'till collage; you'll probably end up getting AIDS anyway, but hey, thats collage. My point being, its not the end of the world. The end of the world is when a wormhole sucks up the entire planet into nullspace (god, that was such a bad movie).
Getting AIDS from a collage? Well, looks like somebody's a little peeved they failed kindergarten art class.
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: MP-Ryan on July 23, 2008, 04:23:27 am
You're a hormonal teenager.  Things are just bizarre at that age, get used to it.

Once you hit your mid-20s the girls will start to act like decent human beings and your mental state will be much more prepared to deal with the times when they aren't.

Don't sweat the small stuff.  I worried about relationships too back then; hell, I worried about them all through University too (I had this horrible habit of getting with crazy, "broken" girls and thinking I could fix their issues... FYI for any of you doing that:  you can't).  Then I met the right one and we're engaged.

If you want it to happen to you it will happen eventually and you'll just know its right.  Until then... have fun.
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Colonol Dekker on July 23, 2008, 04:26:42 am
^_^ Teen years, i don't miss em, but youth is wasted on the young.....
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on July 23, 2008, 04:29:05 am
It's called "impulse". Learn it. ;)

I've gotten myself infatuated with...
/me counts the number of girls he has been infatuated with since age 12.

...three girls since Grade Six (is that what it's called outside Singapore?), and I'm pleased to announce that I'm no longer so.

The media likes to get things all wrong...especially something called "anime".
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Black Wolf on July 23, 2008, 04:43:23 am
Sounds like you're overreacting a bit. Flat out ask her out or something. Get a yea or a nay.
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Mars on July 23, 2008, 04:47:17 am
Once you hit your mid-20s the girls will start to act like decent human beings and your mental state will be much more prepared to deal with the times when they aren't.
...

If you want it to happen to you it will happen eventually and you'll just know its right. 

The divorce rate would seem to contradict you slightly in that department.
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Mefustae on July 23, 2008, 04:52:23 am
(I had this horrible habit of getting with crazy, "broken" girls and thinking I could fix their issues... FYI for any of you doing that:  you can't).
Ach, ****. We'll see.
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Al Tarket on July 23, 2008, 05:57:43 am
i suggest you put that whole episode out of your mind, remember that you have about 80 years of life and who knows what could happen in that time. school girls are typically confused of what a relationship is, a boy on the other hand only wants 1 thing (guess but dont say it). however, i never went to school my parents never had the money to get me into school. everything i learned was by myself, and only 4 years ago i found that someone and we have been together for that time, however it's not without its dangers and their is a huge amount of pressure on you and your friend to do the right things, and it's not always easy. being in a friendship is one thing but a proper relationship is a whole new ball game.
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: karajorma on July 23, 2008, 06:06:51 am
Once you hit your mid-20s the girls will start to act like decent human beings and your mental state will be much more prepared to deal with the times when they aren't.
...

If you want it to happen to you it will happen eventually and you'll just know its right.

The divorce rate would seem to contradict you slightly in that department.

Or that people get married despite a nagging sensation that it isn't right.
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: General Battuta on July 23, 2008, 11:35:24 am
i suggest you put that whole episode out of your mind, remember that you have about 80 years of life and who knows what could happen in that time. school girls are typically confused of what a relationship is, a boy on the other hand only wants 1 thing (guess but dont say it). however, i never went to school my parents never had the money to get me into school. everything i learned was by myself, and only 4 years ago i found that someone and we have been together for that time, however it's not without its dangers and their is a huge amount of pressure on you and your friend to do the right things, and it's not always easy. being in a friendship is one thing but a proper relationship is a whole new ball game.

This guy is wrong. As often as not, it's the girls that are after sex and the guys who want an emotional attachment -- it can go either way.

You're a teenager. Hormones do weird things. Just ride it out -- everybody has a miserable time -- and trust that you'll become more comfortable with relationships in a while.

And you should talk to your friend and say 'hey, did I make you uncomfortable with the dancing thing? I just thought it might be fun, since it would've been awkward to dance with someone who wasn't my friend...' After all, she might have been really shy since she's crushing on you. You never know!

Huge, dramatic emotional shifts (which later disappear) are characteristic of adolescence. Don't sweat it.
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: MP-Ryan on July 23, 2008, 02:40:33 pm
The divorce rate would seem to contradict you slightly in that department.

Or that people get married despite a nagging sensation that it isn't right.

Bingo.

Or sometimes circumstances change and life with them.  I view an increasing divorce rate as a sign that people are less willing to stay in a bad marriage now than they ever were before, rather than a sign of impending social apocalypse.  The trick is to get people to recognize a bad relationship BEFORE they get married.
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Ford Prefect on July 23, 2008, 03:37:58 pm
I think you should go see The Dark Knight. I'm not totally clear on how that will help, but right now this is basically my advice for everything.
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Turambar on July 23, 2008, 04:03:00 pm
I think you should go see The Dark Knight. I'm not totally clear on how that will help, but right now this is basically my advice for everything.

agreed. 
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: BlackDove on July 23, 2008, 05:18:30 pm
TL;DR WARNING! skip to the **

Man that was some delicious copypasta. And if it wasn't, it damn well should be.

In fact, I think I'll add it to the library. It's missing something though...

Not only that, but it happened to EVERY ****ING GIRL I SORT OF LIKED! I just lost interest in love completely! Snap! Like a switch. It took me a while to realize this but now, this is the clincher "I honestly don't care If I ever find someone". Like I could go through my entire life without a significant other and I would be totally fine. It scares me because I honestly believe that company isn't worth two ****s. I haven't gotten anymore independent. I still love to hang out and talk with my friends, it's just that, short of naked, women no longer hold any special interest for me. All I feel is a strange sense of freedom. A weird release from the pressure of having to find a girl, having to constantly work out and buy them stuff to make sure you keep their conditional love, the guilt and fear of being unattractive, the scary thoughts of all that stuff that happens after the first date, or even the pressure of dating at all. it's like an entire segment of human behaviour has been surgically removed from my soul and my mom got scared and said, "You're movin' with your auntie and uncle in Bel-Air."I whistled for a cab and when it came near The license plate said fresh and it had dice in the mirror If anything I could say that this cab was rare But I thought, "Nah, forget it. Yo home to Bel-Air!" I pulled up to the house about 7 or 8and I yelled to the cabby yo holmes smell ya later Looked at my kingdom I was finally there To sit on my throne as the prince of Bel-Air.

Now I think it's perfect.


** The only new thing in this world is the history you don't know. "ANYONE" had plenty of experiences like this. You'll get over it.
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Mika on July 23, 2008, 05:36:57 pm
Quote
I view an increasing divorce rate as a sign that people are less willing to stay in a bad marriage now than they ever were before, rather than a sign of impending social apocalypse.  The trick is to get people to recognize a bad relationship BEFORE they get married.

It could be a sign of selfishness and impending social apocalypse. Could be about people getting married since they are afraid to be left alone. Or people not knowing what love is. Could be media affecting adults.

HellifIknew

Mika
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Warp Shadow on July 23, 2008, 06:58:01 pm
TL;DR WARNING! skip to the **

Man that was some delicious copypasta. And if it wasn't, it damn well should be.

In fact, I think I'll add it to the library. It's missing something though...

Not only that, but it happened to EVERY ****ING GIRL I SORT OF LIKED! I just lost interest in love completely! Snap! Like a switch. It took me a while to realize this but now, this is the clincher "I honestly don't care If I ever find someone". Like I could go through my entire life without a significant other and I would be totally fine. It scares me because I honestly believe that company isn't worth two ****s. I haven't gotten anymore independent. I still love to hang out and talk with my friends, it's just that, short of naked, women no longer hold any special interest for me. All I feel is a strange sense of freedom. A weird release from the pressure of having to find a girl, having to constantly work out and buy them stuff to make sure you keep their conditional love, the guilt and fear of being unattractive, the scary thoughts of all that stuff that happens after the first date, or even the pressure of dating at all. it's like an entire segment of human behaviour has been surgically removed from my soul and my mom got scared and said, "You're movin' with your auntie and uncle in Bel-Air."I whistled for a cab and when it came near The license plate said fresh and it had dice in the mirror If anything I could say that this cab was rare But I thought, "Nah, forget it. Yo home to Bel-Air!" I pulled up to the house about 7 or 8and I yelled to the cabby yo holmes smell ya later Looked at my kingdom I was finally there To sit on my throne as the prince of Bel-Air.

Now I think it's perfect.


** The only new thing in this world is the history you don't know. "ANYONE" had plenty of experiences like this. You'll get over it.

Dude. Whatever your on, would you mind passing it?

EDIT: Oh the hypocrisy
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: SPARTAN-367 on July 23, 2008, 07:18:15 pm
I've never been in a relationship, I'm 22, girls are still immature at my age.
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: achtung on July 23, 2008, 08:07:22 pm
*snip*

Dude. Whatever your on, would you mind passing it?

EDIT: Oh the hypocrisy

lern2internet
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Colonol Dekker on July 23, 2008, 08:16:58 pm
I've never been in a relationship, I'm 22, girls are still immature at my age.

Thats why you aim higher, go get some City Cougar / Sugar Mummy / Milf action.. :yes: :yes: :yes:
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: SPARTAN-367 on July 23, 2008, 09:15:56 pm
I've never been in a relationship, I'm 22, girls are still immature at my age.

Thats why you aim higher, go get some City Cougar / Sugar Mummy / Milf action.. :yes: :yes: :yes:

That actually scares me lol
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Colonol Dekker on July 23, 2008, 09:36:27 pm
Come on Spartan, Man up and go claim some in the name of the NSCDF !!
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Hellstryker on July 24, 2008, 06:14:25 am
I'm only 14, and have never been in a relationship, but from what i've observed with my mom and around 90% of her friends... I can't say I see the point in a relationship at all at this point  :shaking:
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Hippo on July 24, 2008, 06:44:00 am
you will when you're older



it all comes with time
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Wobble73 on July 24, 2008, 07:45:39 am
Quote
I view an increasing divorce rate as a sign that people are less willing to stay in a bad marriage now than they ever were before, rather than a sign of impending social apocalypse.  The trick is to get people to recognize a bad relationship BEFORE they get married.

It could be a sign of selfishness and impending social apocalypse. Could be about people getting married since they are afraid to be left alone. Or people not knowing what love is. Could be media affecting adults.

HellifIknew

Mika


And here I thought that the divorce rate was going down due to the fact that the number of marriages were decreasing?  :nervous:
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Mars on July 24, 2008, 07:57:43 am
But of the marriages that do occur, over half end in divorce. (In the US anyway)
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Stormkeeper on July 24, 2008, 08:02:27 am
*snip*
Looks like I was late to the Bel-Airing.

Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: vyper on July 24, 2008, 10:19:05 am
Without reading the rest of this thread, I can surmise she's trying to regain control of the situation by ****ing with your head.

Don't fall for it.
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: General Battuta on July 24, 2008, 11:03:27 am
I've never been in a relationship, I'm 22, girls are still immature at my age.

Thats why you aim higher, go get some City Cougar / Sugar Mummy / Milf action.. :yes: :yes: :yes:

Dekker, you're a unique phenomenon. I applaud.
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Fearless Leader on July 24, 2008, 11:08:21 am
SPARTAN-367

Girls age 18 till about 23 are retarded as s***, they dont know a good guy or relationship from a bad one, because usually dont have the experience to tell. Because they get away from something that they thought was bad thinking they know everything about relationships and end up in a worse one. Thats why older guys pick up on them.  ****ing dumb as s***

I'm only 14, and have never been in a relationship, but from what i've observed with my mom and around 90% of her friends... I can't say I see the point in a relationship at all at this point  :shaking:

Man, you are 14. Just watch and learn from the mistakes around you. And remember, you will only ever stay in contact with %5 of the people you go to school with.
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Mars on July 24, 2008, 11:27:33 am
I think that most people in general are confused about the difference between a good and bad relationship, not just women between the ages of 18 to 23.
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: General Battuta on July 24, 2008, 11:42:19 am
SPARTAN-367

Girls age 18 till about 23 are retarded as s***, they dont know a good guy or relationship from a bad one, because usually dont have the experience to tell. Because they get away from something that they thought was bad thinking they know everything about relationships and end up in a worse one. Thats why older guys pick up on them.  ****ing dumb as s***

You could replace 'girls' with 'guys' everywhere in that paragraph and still have a true statement. There's no need to get sexist just because we haven't seen things from the other side
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Janos on July 24, 2008, 12:56:21 pm
I've never been in a relationship, I'm 22, girls are still immature at my age.

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Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: vyper on July 24, 2008, 01:05:33 pm
You keep forgetting that :lol: code don't you?
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: NGTM-1R on July 24, 2008, 03:35:21 pm
I'm only 14, and have never been in a relationship, but from what i've observed with my mom and around 90% of her friends... I can't say I see the point in a relationship at all at this point  :shaking:

I thought that until I was about 18, since I was single and felt good about it, then quite suddenly the point of it grabbed me by the collar, smacked me across the face a few times, and screamed "YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT GOOD IS" in my face.
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Colonol Dekker on July 24, 2008, 04:08:18 pm
I've never been in a relationship, I'm 22, girls are still immature at my age.

Thats why you aim higher, go get some City Cougar / Sugar Mummy / Milf action.. :yes: :yes: :yes:

Dekker, you're a unique phenomenon. I applaud.

You're quite welcome, It's true though. Go for your mates older sister (If any)
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: SPARTAN-367 on July 24, 2008, 09:31:47 pm
haha,

At this point I don't know if I should feel sad or good about myself from the different stuff you guys said about me haha.

What I got out of it is laughter though, I guess thats a good thing.

Well I try every day on nice girls.

Anyways I'm busy with my University, Work, Ahtletics (Decathlon) for now... Not letting my dreams tumble due to some retarded girls.

I know it nice to have one, but I can't just bag em and make them like me! :lol:
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: NGTM-1R on July 24, 2008, 09:42:36 pm
City Cougar

I find this hilarous for reasons I will not explain.

But which Kara can probably figure out. :P
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Colonol Dekker on July 24, 2008, 09:48:19 pm
You're taking about Cougar i take it?  ;7
Spartan, don't worry about trying to bag a bit of skirt. Just play it cool make em laugh and build "the trust".
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: NGTM-1R on July 24, 2008, 10:05:24 pm
You're taking about Cougar i take it?  ;7

Yes, but not in the way you think.








Rowrrrrrl?
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: General Battuta on July 25, 2008, 12:36:13 am

...I try every day on nice girls...

...not letting my dreams tumble due to some retarded girls...

I know it nice to have one, but I can't just bag em and make them like me! :lol:

You're sending some mixed signals here, dude. Unless nice = retarded in your book.

Your problem is that you're trying. See, you can't show you're interested. Except enough to make them make the first move. But not too much, y'hear?

Like Dekker said, play it cool.
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Rian on July 25, 2008, 01:23:39 am
What if she’s expecting him to make the first move? Do they just exchange meaningful looks and ambiguous compliments until someone loses interest? Dropping hints and expecting the other person to speak up first is a recipe for frustration.

There’s nothing wrong with making your feelings clear, as long as you’re not too pushy about it.
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: NGTM-1R on July 25, 2008, 02:59:34 am
Your problem is that you're trying. See, you can't show you're interested. Except enough to make them make the first move. But not too much, y'hear?

Like Dekker said, play it cool.

I used to think that way. Perhaps I grew bitter over lost chances and failures. Perhaps I grew cynical about relying too much on the intelligence and perceptiveness of others. Or perhaps it was the long-delayed understanding that the first time out I had been betrayed, the death of some kind of innocence.

I wasn't able to eliminate the gentleman from me, and in real sense I don't really want to try. He has his place, and it's important. But the timidity that accompanied him, the method you describe, won me nothing and cost me much. Too many chances slipped through my fingers. So I changed my tune.

"This is what I think. You're interested, you know where to find me." I just say it. I do nothing else, go back to my own whatever afterwards, but say it, no hesitation, directly. After that nothing more comes of it unless I get a response. I'm told I come across as having complete self-confidence. This isn't true. It's recklessness. I don't expect most people would be able to handle that approach; I've suffered enough that I no longer care if I do so again. I've been there and done that and I'll live. Better to fail through action then inaction.

And you know, it's worked more than once. What comes after, that's another matter. But it got me where I am today, thinking about giving someone a ring, so I think it's worked pretty well.
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: karajorma on July 25, 2008, 03:41:26 am
There’s nothing wrong with making your feelings clear, as long as you’re not too pushy about it.

I know you're looking at this from the other side of the fence from me Rian but that's really bad advice. You do not EVER tell a woman exactly how you feel about her in the first few months. And certainly not before you even start dating. You're riding the fast train to dumpsville with about 95% of women if you do that.

A man however should make the first move if he interested in a woman but it has to be light and casual as if he just thought about it. You never say that you've been interested in a girl for months and haven't asked her out cause that instantly shows her you have no confidence.

NGTM-1R's suggestion is actually pretty good. What  you don't say that you should date cause you've been friends for months and you think you're falling in love with her and you'd be great together and all that crap. No! Just shut the **** up after you've asked her out. It won't help you the slightest bit if she isn't interested in you and even if she is you can't force intimacy to happen simply cause you blurted it all out.

That stuff stays inside at least until she says she loves you. As far as I'm concerned as long as I'm expected to make the first move asking a woman out she can't complain if I expect her to make the first move saying the L word. :D
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Aardwolf on July 25, 2008, 04:47:51 am
Maybe I missed something, but who said anything about number of months since you started liking her or talking to her or whatever?
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: karajorma on July 25, 2008, 04:53:18 am
The subject seems to be about relationships with people you already know rather than picking up women in bars. :)
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Colonol Dekker on July 25, 2008, 05:01:13 am
I was exactly the same when i was younger, (slightly underconfident, unsure) then i realised just focus on having fun and don't worry. Be like Packie from greek just don't be to blaz'e. Sp?
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Wobble73 on July 25, 2008, 05:12:30 am
I was exactly the same when i was younger, (slightly underconfident, unsure) then i realised just focus on having fun and don't worry. Be like Packie from greek just don't be to blaz'e. Sp?

Blase (with an accent over the e)

Anyway, I'm still underconfident. Not that it matters, I've already bagged a missus!  :P
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: SPARTAN-367 on July 25, 2008, 06:35:39 am
shouldn't said try... I actually ask for phone number... 5 times never worked...

Had a 6th one happen on Monday... and I'm working on it lol...

she's likes gymnastics... hmm sports = good... common interest :)
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: neo_hermes on July 25, 2008, 06:52:43 am
Don't sweat the small stuff.  I worried about relationships too back then; hell, I worried about them all through University too (I had this horrible habit of getting with crazy, "broken" girls and thinking I could fix their issues... FYI for any of you doing that:  you can't).  Then I met the right one and we're engaged.

i never knew anyone could yell for so long over a phone till i heard my ex-gf's father... just wow.
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on July 25, 2008, 08:04:53 am
I'm 17 and single. Is that a good thing? :nervous:
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Mars on July 25, 2008, 08:16:06 am
Depends on a lot of things.
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: SPARTAN-367 on July 25, 2008, 12:44:43 pm
Can't teach an old dog new tricks.
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: General Battuta on July 25, 2008, 12:46:19 pm
It's fine. I didn't start dating until I was seventeen (and that one relationship is still ongoing, so it worked out very well.)
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Rian on July 25, 2008, 01:23:38 pm
NGTM-1R's suggestion is actually pretty good. What  you don't say that you should date cause you've been friends for months and you think you're falling in love with her and you'd be great together and all that crap. No! Just shut the **** up after you've asked her out. It won't help you the slightest bit if she isn't interested in you and even if she is you can't force intimacy to happen simply cause you blurted it all out.

See, that’s the distinction I was talking about between being forthright and being pushy. And if you’re already friends with someone, it’s somewhat more difficult to make the jump from “just being friendly” to “might be interested” unless you do something more than just drop hints and expect him/her to get it.

Spilling your guts right away is a poor move, I agree. Mostly just because it’s awkward. But if you always expect the other person to say something first, then there’s a significant chance it won’t happen at all.

Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: karajorma on July 25, 2008, 02:17:59 pm
Yeah, but I'm telling guys to be even more tight lipped than you are. Even if you know the girl wants you back you shouldn't do more than just ask her out. :)

Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Colonol Dekker on July 25, 2008, 04:22:21 pm
Be the carrot on the stick. Don't beat her with it first though.
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: NGTM-1R on July 25, 2008, 04:40:35 pm
Be the carrot on the stick. Don't beat her with it first though.

But afterwards beat her all she wants? :P
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Colonol Dekker on July 25, 2008, 10:29:51 pm
For all we know she might be the dominant one. :shaking:
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: NGTM-1R on July 25, 2008, 10:32:04 pm
For all we know she might be the dominant one. :shaking:

Fortunately, I have a high pain tolerance. (Also fortunately, from my point of view, I don't get anything out of it.)

And as one previous girlfriend can attest, a good way of teaching people just where the limit is.
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Stealth on July 28, 2008, 01:37:31 am
you're all sick.
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: NGTM-1R on July 28, 2008, 01:55:24 am
you're all sick.

You amuse me.
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Aardwolf on July 28, 2008, 03:04:46 am
Relationships are like antifungal foot cream.
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: WMCoolmon on July 28, 2008, 04:50:44 am
I wouldn't really call this advice, but I'm bored and figure I would offer some thoughts here. :D

Well, I would offer one bit of advice - people who offer you advice and say you have to do this, or give some other restrictive explanation of the situation, are usually giving you an incomplete explanation. Oftentimes there are exceptions or loopholes. Oftentimes it's more hopeful than many people will think or portray it as.

Anyway, on to my explanation/conclusion -

My comment is that a lot of this is a load of crap. Most people on the internet don't go around charming girls for the sake of charming girls. If they did, they wouldn't be on the internet (or they wouldn't be on this forum - there isn't a whole lot to interest the really social type.) So most people who talk are offering advice based on their experience, based on their tastes, and based on their situation/looks/personality. As a consequence you get a lot of wildly different opinions.

Also, the "sample size" and preconceptions has a lot to do with advice. If someone asks out 3-4 people a year they have less to go on than somebody who asks out 10-15 people a year. However that first person may simply be more observant and the latter person keeps asking out the same group/type of people. Etc etc.

So in general, unless you're really good with people, there is no "rule". If you're really good with people - say approaching car-salesman good with people - then you have a repertoire of things that you can use to influence a variety of personality types. EG you look at somebody and you know that this person is going to respect confidence; this person is going to be drawn in by charm; this person is going to look for someone shrewd, and you know how to act around them.

So when it comes down to asking girls out the biggest thing is to have fun. More than likely you're going to get turned down, and maybe not even because the girl has any particular opinion. It may be the way you asked or it may be the day or it may be because they're thinking about somebody else, but they're not quite sure, or because they're concerned of how it might look or because they have plans and they actually do want to go out with you, but you misunderstood what they said. Or maybe they say yes but they're just playing around with you, and then act as if they thought you were joking. Or maybe they say yes but change their mind later for any number of reasons.

Maybe they think you smell.

So rather than stress out over whether you're hot or not, you just come up with something to make it fun. You're going to feel humiliated, rejected, or (if you're lucky enough) nothing at all, so why not do something silly and take a chance? Of course, if you do something crazy, then people may get creeped out and run away - that's a little too extreme. But if you do something funky then maybe, maybe, it'll increase your chances a little. And if it doesn't, at least you have that fun thing to go back on.

The other thing I would say is that there is no such thing as a 'normal' relationship and somebody who claims to have The Answer is not telling the truth. I have heard of all kinds of relationships and it's very enjoyable to think that there's a considerable variety out there, even if most people don't ever get to see it firsthand...

The other thing I would add is that I'm always bugged by rules, eg this => confidence, you must do this, girl must do this, this on the nth date means this, etc etc. All it seems to do is limit people to a small group of people who understand the rules and cut them off from having some kind of unusual experience that they would learn a lot more from. Still, a lot of people buy into it, and it does work for finding someone you're compatible with, at least to some extent, because presumably you're operating on the same wavelength if you can get through the initial gauntlets.

However, I should bookend this by saying that I have yet to find a girl who actually has something resembling this opinion. A lot of girls will say that they are openminded or otherwise accepting of differences, but actually have some set of rules that they use that isn't immediately obvious or identical to the ones I mentioned earlier. They just don't admit to it (or may not even understand the pattern of their behavior). So it's not something I'd recommend to anyone looking for a guaranteed way to get laid. That's what bars & nightclubs are for.
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: General Battuta on July 28, 2008, 11:23:26 am
crap. Most people on the internet don't go around charming girls for the sake of charming girls. If they did, they wouldn't be on the internet (or they wouldn't be on this forum - there isn't a whole lot to interest the really social type.)

I do the random-charming thing (hrm, hrm, not to toot my own horn) and I am quite effective!

...however, I will say that Coolmon's post is quite correct, in my opinion. There are no rules.
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: [DW]-Hunter on July 28, 2008, 01:10:50 pm
No offense dude, but you came to an online forum for social help. Do you see what you did wrong?
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: karajorma on July 28, 2008, 02:11:52 pm
...however, I will say that Coolmon's post is quite correct, in my opinion. There are no rules.

No rules. Plenty of guidelines though. :)
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: SPARTAN-367 on July 28, 2008, 02:44:08 pm
If you ain't having fun... it ain't worth it... thats what I stick too and so far no girl knows me as someone who enjoys having a good time... than so be it. I'll wait more time.
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: WMCoolmon on July 29, 2008, 04:38:08 am
I just saw the latest Snuggle commercial.

My God. That little bear has chicks chasing after him like a pack of flies after yesterday's meal. I guess this means only one thing.

It's time to buy me a bear suit to pick up chicks with.
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: neo_hermes on July 29, 2008, 04:56:47 am
Lol do it and get pics!
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: NGTM-1R on July 29, 2008, 11:17:21 am
I won't make the obvious pedobear reference here. :P

No, seriously. I won't. Honest.

Instead you get pedodog! :P

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h61/Miklosa/pedodog.jpg)
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: General Battuta on July 29, 2008, 12:08:16 pm
...however, I will say that Coolmon's post is quite correct, in my opinion. There are no rules.

No rules. Plenty of guidelines though. :)

Naturally! No hard-and-fast rules, I should say.
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: neo_hermes on July 29, 2008, 04:29:58 pm
I won't make the obvious pedobear reference here. :P

No, seriously. I won't. Honest.

Instead you get pedodog! :P

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h61/Miklosa/pedodog.jpg)

is that a real person?
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Colonol Dekker on July 29, 2008, 06:18:39 pm
It's time to buy me a bear suit to pick up chicks with.

Maybe he didn't have enough £££ for a bear size?

J/K :warp:
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Mika on July 29, 2008, 07:10:14 pm
[Beer induced philosophy]

What the hell is wrong with women?

I haven't met many men who could change themselves by their will (implying change by logic only). I have met far few women who could understand that.

[Cynicism]
Generally, before 25 it is men chasing all the sexiest women.

After the age of 25 roles are pretty much reversed. Then you have single women trying to catch last possible available men, or divorced women (most likely those who used to be the sexiest) trying to find those better-class men, usually ending up with a worse partner. Single men at that age, though, are still chasing the sexiest women.

The general rule of life is that the women and men that would otherwise make a good pair simply hate each other at first sight. Rule number two is that you have to choose two of the following three: available, beatiful, smart.

The above applies only to the Western countries.
[/Cynicism]

[/Beer induced philosophy] (We should really add drunken tags here)

Mika
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: NGTM-1R on July 29, 2008, 09:29:33 pm
is that a real person?

I have no reason to assume otherwise.
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on July 29, 2008, 09:40:25 pm
I'm still a chick repellant, for whatever reason. All the girls I like aren't very beautiful, but their conduct is definitely way beyond what I usually see from most girls my age. :blah:
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Colonol Dekker on July 30, 2008, 05:22:40 am
Watched kettles never boil.
 
Don't chase/dwell on it or it WILL drive you mental. Focus on partying.
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on July 30, 2008, 06:01:42 am
Watched kettles never boil.
 
Don't chase/dwell on it or it WILL drive you mental. Focus on partying.

A correction, Colonel. Your proverb is correct. As long as you don't think about it, it will come.

And, uhh, I don't drink.
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Colonol Dekker on July 30, 2008, 09:33:23 am
Everyone drinks. . .you're either Tea or Coffee.
Comfortable shoes or trainers. Good with a spanner(wrench) or good with wallpaper.
:)
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Wobble73 on July 30, 2008, 09:38:58 am
Watched kettles never boil.
 
Don't chase/dwell on it or it WILL drive you mental. Focus on partying.

A correction, Colonel. Your proverb is correct. As long as you don't think about it, it will come.

And, uhh, I don't drink.

It's Colonol to you Sonny Jim!  :lol: Also, he never mentioned drinking, only partying!

P...A...R...T....Why? Because I Gotta!  ;7



Spoiler:
Don't worry Androgeos Exeunt, I've spelt it wrong in the past too!
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Colonol Dekker on July 30, 2008, 09:44:27 am
Cheers Wobble i spelt it wrong at the registration phase many years back so technically everyone else is right and i'm wrong :nervous:
 
 It's all good in the hood
though :yes: metaphorically i'm a bit thirsty, might try to find a "swift half" ;7 i believe my old schoolmate "Liz" is back in town.
I better go ummm. . .find some teabags :lol:
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Wobble73 on July 30, 2008, 09:49:04 am
Liz eh! You old dog you!  :lol:

Whatever happened to the waitress from the first HLP London?
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Colonol Dekker on July 30, 2008, 09:52:57 am
:rolleyes: i've dropped by for another excellent Burger since but she wasn't on shift and i couldn't (be bothered to remember) her name.
 So nothing came of it . . .yet.
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: karajorma on July 30, 2008, 10:50:33 am
:rolleyes: i've dropped by for another excellent Burger

You.....you....cheated on me! Sob.....


*kara runs off crying*


:p
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Colonol Dekker on July 30, 2008, 10:54:12 am
*CD is exhibiting genuine LMAO symptoms.
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: WMCoolmon on July 30, 2008, 11:33:47 pm
Her: Is that for here, or to go?

Him: I'd like the meal for here, and I'd like you to go...out with me tonight.

- or -

Her: Would you like that super sized?

Him: It already is.

- or -

Her: Can I take your order?

Him: Yes, but you'll have to close your eyes. I can never keep my eyes off a thing of beauty.
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Colonol Dekker on July 31, 2008, 01:44:01 am

Quote
Her: Can I take your order?

Him: Yes, but you'll have to close your eyes. I can never keep my eyes off a thing of beauty.

(http://1.2.3.12/bmi/atypically.net/smilies/vomit.gif)
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on July 31, 2008, 01:58:20 am
:rolleyes: i've dropped by for another excellent Burger

You.....you....cheated on me! Sob.....


*kara runs off crying*


:p

You're a GIRL, karajorma? :eek2:
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: karajorma on July 31, 2008, 02:18:49 am
No. I'm upset he had burgers without me. :D
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: WMCoolmon on July 31, 2008, 02:51:33 am
Hmm, I always did kind of group vegitarianism with celibacy.
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on July 31, 2008, 03:03:44 am
No. I'm upset he had burgers without me. :D

Oh, you live in London, then. ;)

I'd like to see how big burgers are in Europe. :)

In any case, we're off-topic.
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: S-99 on July 31, 2008, 04:28:05 am
Great thread. If you want to  know how to handle exe's, that's what i'm here for :yes:
I've never had any great relationships in my life. It all started pretty   much when i was 16. I started going out with this chick who was my age at the time. Went on one date, then asked her to prom, she started seeing some other older dude right after the date. It was so funny because she was so bad at being sneaky. Then at prom her friends came up to me and broke her up for her. Extremely cheesy. Made me very angry. Never have been naive since then.

All i could do was watch other people in there relationships and learn. I learned a lot. During highschool i had 8 meaningless go no where relationships. I was a player. And i made sure i wasn't getting passed around like a peace pipe either. The only good relationship i've had was when i was 20, i ****ed that up big time. Ever since then i hardly date any more. It doesn't really matter. Just tired of the fact that beautiful chicks with some major problems get attracted to me. I don't try to fix their problems, i try to help them out with them in the least. The alcoholic girl by far is the dumbest girl i've ever dated. I nearly went to jail with her escorting her back to her place on foot. The fact that she drank half a bottle of vodka without me knowing before we left my place, and the fact that she'll go to jail for drinking anyway. The cop went easy on her and didn't put her in jail, and said i would have gone in with her had he made the decision. It definitely left me with the "WTF? i'm being a good samaritan getting her back to her place because my room mates didn't want her at mine".

The whole experience left better understanding guilt by association a little bit. Heck, no cops would have showed up at all if she weren't drunk like i thought she wasn't when we left my place and then she wouldn't have caused a disturbance. She kept on all yelling outside when it was -20F windchill last winter and refused to go back inside, i had to grab my friends to help me get her back in. Bad escort situation to worse.

Anyway, **** goes to hell. If that one chick described in the very first post was dancing with me and had done what was said she had done. My interest in her would have disappeared just like that. Then move onto brighter planes. All my relationships then again have left me bitter and angry, even the good relationship i had that i screwed up when i was 20. I'm still friends with the girl, but i detect awkwardness around her whenever i see her. Like as if she can't get over the fact of what happened years ago that i tried so dearly to make ammends with and fix the situation. If she doesn't want to be my friend any more then she should just not be my friend or even acquaintance any more. Turns out after a couple of years later i found out that she just doesn't know me any more. I think she just didn't really know me in the first place or at least can't tell that i've made a turn for the better when i accidentally stabbed 3 of my friends in the back way then.

Whatever, i guess to say there's some questions she needs to ask me that she doesn't know she needs to ask. Of course like always, i'll have to initiate that conversation since she's not akin to what's bothering me everytime i see her.
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Wobble73 on July 31, 2008, 04:32:39 am
Great thread. If you want to  know how to handle exe's, that's what i'm here for :yes:
:lol:

Sorry, I just thought that typo was hilarious! If only ex-gf's were like executables, order them to run and off they go!  :lol:
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: SPARTAN-367 on July 31, 2008, 07:09:36 am
Great thread. If you want to  know how to handle exe's, that's what i'm here for :yes:
:lol:

Sorry, I just thought that typo was hilarious! If only ex-gf's were like executables, order them to run and off they go!  :lol:

 :lol:
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Stormkeeper on July 31, 2008, 07:22:04 am
Great thread. If you want to  know how to handle exe's, that's what i'm here for :yes:
:lol:

Sorry, I just thought that typo was hilarious! If only ex-gf's were like executables, order them to run and off they go!  :lol:
:wakka:

But tbh, that would make dating kinda predictable ...
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on July 31, 2008, 08:22:57 am
Great thread. If you want to  know how to handle exe's, that's what i'm here for :yes:
:lol:

Sorry, I just thought that typo was hilarious! If only ex-gf's were like executables, order them to run and off they go!  :lol:
:wakka:

But tbh, that would make dating kinda predictable ...

And boring too.

I generated a slight liking for the primary school girl sitting beside me when I was twelve. That ended the moment I hit secondary one.

Two years ago, I got myself infatuated with the top scorer in my Secondary Three class. That died out last year.

Last year, I started liking a very quiet girl in the same class. She went off with one of my schoolmates two months ago.

The only girl I keep in touch with now (who's not a family member) is the quiet girl's friend, who so happened to have been sorted into the same polytechnic as I am. We meet up regularly on Tuesdays to take the shuttle bus, but so far, our relationship is mutual.
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Stormkeeper on July 31, 2008, 08:47:45 am
I've had the same liking of the same girl for the past 3 years.  Nothing's come of it yet, tho.
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on July 31, 2008, 09:16:34 am
It takes time; thirty years, I think.

It takes three years to be good, three decades to initiate a successful relationship, three centuries for a structure to become a tourist attraction.

...I'm not too sure about the last bit. :nervous:
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: karajorma on July 31, 2008, 09:21:09 am
I've had the same liking of the same girl for the past 3 years.  Nothing's come of it yet, tho.

Have you actually done something about it?
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Flipside on July 31, 2008, 09:54:49 am
The first words I ever said to my partner of the last 8 years...

'Word-wrap in a three-word sentence? Methinks you need a smaller font.'
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Wobble73 on July 31, 2008, 10:01:37 am
The first words I ever said to my partner of the last 8 years...

'Word-wrap in a three-word sentence? Methinks you need a smaller font.'

Methinks? Do people still talk like that? Or were you playing an RPG at the time?
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Stormkeeper on July 31, 2008, 10:18:18 am
Have you actually done something about it?
Yep. Lots.

On the bright side, now I can more or less anticipate what she'll say or do in certain situations, and vice versa.
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Flipside on July 31, 2008, 10:46:47 am
The first words I ever said to my partner of the last 8 years...

'Word-wrap in a three-word sentence? Methinks you need a smaller font.'

Methinks? Do people still talk like that? Or were you playing an RPG at the time?

I tend to use that word a lot, I've even been known to use the word nary, as in 'nary a whisper from them'. Blame it partly on having an English teacher for a Grandmother, and partly on reading too much Feist when I was younger ;)
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on July 31, 2008, 10:50:31 am
Yep. Lots.

On the bright side, now I can more or less anticipate what she'll say or do in certain situations, and vice versa.

That's great. Kudos. :nod:
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Colonol Dekker on July 31, 2008, 11:47:03 am
Methinks? Do people still talk like that? Or were you playing an RPG at the time?

Type Methinks into the HLP search box....... :nervous:
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Stormkeeper on July 31, 2008, 12:47:20 pm
Type Methinks into the HLP search box....... :nervous:

... Wow.

Actually, I do use 'methinks' once in a while too.
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: NGTM-1R on July 31, 2008, 02:29:16 pm
Yep. Lots.

On the bright side, now I can more or less anticipate what she'll say or do in certain situations, and vice versa.

Stop having girls you know be similar to Alessia's relationship to myself, it's creeping me out.

We've essentially reached the point where we can't lie to each other; it's immediately obvious.
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: S-99 on July 31, 2008, 03:50:12 pm
Reminds me of when i was younger. It was like the beginning of the year for 7th grade for me. Then out of  no where i started looking at chick's bootay's. Then it was like a year later when i realized damn some of these bootay's look really nice.
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Colonol Dekker on July 31, 2008, 03:59:25 pm
How long til you stop saying "Bootay"? ;) :p

Regarding infantile "girls smell" attitude, i didn't really lose mine... It just wore off. ;7 :lol:


Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: S-99 on July 31, 2008, 05:06:17 pm
I lost my infantile girls smell attitude at around 7th grade.
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Mars on July 31, 2008, 05:30:55 pm
I never really had one  :nervous:
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: NGTM-1R on July 31, 2008, 05:48:42 pm
I never really had one  :nervous:

Ditto. :p
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Stormkeeper on July 31, 2008, 08:42:19 pm
Me neither.
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on July 31, 2008, 11:06:17 pm
Here and there, I still note that most, if not all girls, smell nice.

I don't understand why that might be offensive, though.
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Colonol Dekker on August 01, 2008, 06:07:48 am
I was just remembering nursery / primary school gender social divisions. (Not a school where you use primary weapons but British junior equivalent)
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Stormkeeper on August 01, 2008, 06:09:14 am
My friend was telling me how when she was in nursery, she agreed to marry a boy for a sweet.
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Colonol Dekker on August 01, 2008, 06:14:31 am
Slag. . . :lol: i should try asking girls now.
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Stormkeeper on August 01, 2008, 06:17:02 am
In general, girls have a nice smell about them, but I think there's something voyeuristic about sniffing every girl that goes past you...

Slag. . . :lol: i should try asking girls now.
Go ahead. I think she was offered a Fruitbix. If you up the ante to a Fererro Roche, well. You've got it made!
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Colonol Dekker on August 01, 2008, 06:19:31 am
:nervous: I'm not proposing to kids. I'm happily un-married. I'm aiming for something a little less . . . . . . "committed" might use a twix.
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Stormkeeper on August 01, 2008, 06:23:22 am
A mentos might work just as well.
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Snail on August 01, 2008, 07:40:29 am
A mentos might work just as well.
With or without Coke?
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Stormkeeper on August 01, 2008, 07:55:11 am
With out.
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on August 01, 2008, 10:33:20 am
The biggest thing I've done for a girl I liked was to give her a birthday present filled with sweets, marshmallows and chocolates. It cost me S$8.88.
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: neo_hermes on August 01, 2008, 01:23:16 pm
i bought a girl lingerie...was money well spent.
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Stormkeeper on August 01, 2008, 01:53:12 pm
Biggest thing I've done for a girl is arrange a surprise birthday party and succeeding in securing the aid of her parents and close friends, all without her knowledge, and also succeeding in acting like I've forgot her birthday. The things I do for my sister.
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: SPARTAN-367 on August 01, 2008, 03:19:02 pm
i bought a girl lingerie...was money well spent.

hehe.
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Mars on August 01, 2008, 03:44:00 pm
Biggest thing I've done for a girl is arrange a surprise birthday party and succeeding in securing the aid of her parents and close friends, all without her knowledge, and also succeeding in acting like I've forgot her birthday. The things I do for my sister.

awww

I have 5 siblings, and none of us can keep each others birthdays straight.
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on August 02, 2008, 01:28:47 am
My sister has problems remembering everyone's birthday except her own. :nervous:
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: S-99 on August 02, 2008, 06:25:23 am
What's funny is how many people want to fit in all of a sudden here saying "i never had the girls smell attitude ever, girls smell fine". Girls generally smell great, but that wasn't the reference for me. The infantile girls smell attitude goes back to when i was a little kid back to a different time of prepubescence where boys and girls were enemies. Back in the days of preschool  and elementary grades where the boys picked on the girls and girls picked on the boys.
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Mars on August 02, 2008, 06:53:33 am
I understood what you meant. I just honestly never had that problem... I went to a tiny elementary school and the girls and boys interacted pretty civilly, plus I had two sisters and my mom babysat a girl my age.
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on August 02, 2008, 06:56:09 am
I understood what you meant. I just honestly never had that problem... I went to a tiny elementary school and the girls and boys interacted pretty civilly, plus I had two sisters and my mom babysat a girl my age.

I had just about the same experience in preschool too. No war at all. ;)
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Stormkeeper on August 02, 2008, 07:08:07 am
The infantile girls smell attitude goes back to when i was a little kid back to a different time of prepubescence where boys and girls were enemies. Back in the days of preschool  and elementary grades where the boys picked on the girls and girls picked on the boys.
I remember those days. But I never really liked picking on girls, so the girls were pretty okay with me. It comes from reading a lot of King Arthur and knight-related stuff, so in my nursery days I went round being a 'knight' protecting all the girls from 'bullies'
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on August 02, 2008, 08:46:06 am
Really? I was as curious as a cat last time. That, I think, got me into some hiccups with my classmates.
Title: Re: Relationships
Post by: SPARTAN-367 on August 02, 2008, 12:42:54 pm
The infantile girls smell attitude goes back to when i was a little kid back to a different time of prepubescence where boys and girls were enemies. Back in the days of preschool  and elementary grades where the boys picked on the girls and girls picked on the boys.
I remember those days. But I never really liked picking on girls, so the girls were pretty okay with me. It comes from reading a lot of King Arthur and knight-related stuff, so in my nursery days I went round being a 'knight' protecting all the girls from 'bullies'

lol