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General FreeSpace => FreeSpace Discussion => Topic started by: dragonsniper on December 02, 2008, 08:25:29 pm
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In one of the FS cutscenes, (the hallfight) one of the shivans gets shot to death, and it blows up, and doesn't appear to bleed. (But they may have done that to clamp down on the already tight "E" rating.) So thus the question, do you think that Shivan's bleed?
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In one of the FS cutscenes, (the hallfight) one of the shivans gets shot to death, and it blows up, and doesn't appear to bleed. (But they may have done that to clamp down on the already tight "E" rating.) So thus the question, do you think that Shivan's bleed?
No. Lazerz will cauterize their wounds before b0d1ly fluid can seep out.
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What if you kill them with a really big knife?
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"If it bleeds, we can kill it" - as the govenor of California put it
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They don't bleed. They explode.
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Well to paraphrase then - "If it explodes, we can kill it"
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Eh, its more of "If it explodes, we can explode it."
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They don't bleed. They explode.
Well is the explosion cause by their blood being exposed to the atmosphere and igniting? Is that still bleeding?
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Blood that explodes on contact with air? kinda defeats the purpose of blood...
For what ive seen, it looks like the shivans breath the same atmosphere as we do, just they can also survive in the vacuum of space...
For all we know, those shivans could have been marines, wearing the shivan version of body armour/spacesuits
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Well if shivans are cyborgs, those were Shivan marines, their suits are not necessarily interchangeable.
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Volition said that they were the real Shivans.
And we didn't see blood. For some reason, I like them bloodless more than with blood.
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Blood that ignites when in contact with an oxygen atmosphere should be possible. Think methane breathers.
Actually a suit full of methane could explain the explosion.
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Blood that ignites when in contact with an oxygen atmosphere should be possible. Think methane breathers.
Actually a suit full of methane could explain the explosion.
Halo Universe Grunts? :drevil:
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Blood that ignites when in contact with an oxygen atmosphere should be possible. Think methane breathers.
Actually a suit full of methane could explain the explosion.
maybe its just an air tight suit and the shivans fart alot
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As far as I care, they bleed. Just that laser weapons could cauterize wounds and stop bleeding.
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If they do not have blood, how can sugar and calories and etc. spread trough their bodies?
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If they do not have blood, how can sugar and calories and etc. spread trough their bodies?
because they have a different metabolic system to humanoids....... do they need sugar and calories , do they need oxygen , at the end of the day we can only speculate to there biological process's (if they are biological )
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Well, when the Shivan got shot up, it dropped out of sight after the explosion, so running blood wasnt seen. 'cant be certian.
As far as explosions, maybe their armor possesses some cybernetic capabilities. When the Terran Marines blasted them, that could have been what exploded. Im thinking we would need more evidence of either to know which is the truth.
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OK we need to find someone stupid enough to go into the air ducts with a big needle....... :nervous:
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i haven't seen carl in ages. think he escaped? :shaking: :nervous:
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No he's still there, he's just hidden deep in the bowels of HLP station, near the fusion reactor to hybernate for the next 32 years.
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just checked the members list. Its amazing how many members do "not compute".
Now if we are talking just "carl" who has over 1011 posts then he's been missing about a year. so he's got 31 years of hybernation left.
If we are talking "Carl-the-shivan" then he's been missing for 7 years, in which case he will return in 25 years...He only made 3 posts before vanishing.
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No - meant the actual shivan. normally he thumps around over there a lot looking for food or n00bs who don't know to feed him. i haven't heard him in a while though and there is a bit of a melting metal smell. or he could just be hibernating or sleeping. or he found a large meal and is still eating.
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fnie then, ignore my edit that mentions Carl and Carl The Shivan.
Carl our pet Shivan has deep into the ducts of HLP station to Hybernate. Shivan hybernation cycles last 32 years. Now since i dont know when he was last seen, i cant say how much of that time has elapse
1000th Post Yay
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ah ok. the melting metal must have just been someone playing with the subachs again.
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Well, this has surely degenerated...but :lol:
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BTW is that human or shivan years.
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Carl our pet Shivan has deep into the ducts of HLP station to Hybernate. Shivan hybernation cycles last 32 years. Now since i dont know when he was last seen, i cant say how much of that time has elapse
Really? I heard he gorged on too many n00bs and got fat. And then got stuck in the ventilation ducts and died there.
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What a "fun" death... I hope the he didn't eat anyone I know. :nervous:
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Shivans don't bleed because they don't have blood. They're suspended in a solution of Bosch beer and run on Duracell AA batteries :p
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that explains why they just keep coming and coming and coming and coming...
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:lol: Out of camera shot they wear little running shorts and vests too ;7
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:lol: Out of camera shot they wear little running shorts and vests too ;7
Wow! I've got a lot to learn. :nod:
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Shivans don't bleed because they don't have blood. They're suspended in a solution of Bosch beer and run on Duracell AA batteries :p
That's why they invaded - to corner the universal market on Bosch Beer and batteries!
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It's quite the industry. There only 1 kind of legit Bosch beer.
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It was a dark time for the Alliance. It appears they have designated the Iceni incorrectly. It was a Freighter, not a Frigate, designed to carry a shipment of Bosch Beer to the Shivans. Bosch, from research into GTI, knew of the Shivan's love for Bosch beer, and decided that he would bring them a massive shipment stowed onboard all of the NTF ships. Initially, the Shivans were just trying to steal some after finding some on board the NTC Trinity. When they heard the rest of the shipment (the NTF Fleet) got destroyed after Bosch contacted them, the Shivans essentially got real pissed and decided that blowing up a star and watching the resulting light show (reknowned for being very pretty to shivans) would be a good way of releasing the stress. So they blew up Capella. Some Shivans were mesmerized by the prettyness of the explosion and failed to jump out in their Sath before they got smoked. Others were more alert and managed to jump out.
As for Bosch, they assimilated him to learn the secrets of how to make more of this beer. Now that the Shivans are running low on ingredients, they are preparing to invade a third time...
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EDIT: Damn, that was retarded. It felt right when I was typing it :nervous:
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I think it's ok. :)
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Do shivans have their own years like cats and dogs?
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Do shivans have their own years like cats and dogs?
Cat/Dog years are just because they have a shorter lifespan. Seeing as Shivans most likelly ahve a different lifespan than us, then yes, I guess they would have thier own "years"
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so is that 32 human or shivan years?
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so is that 32 human or shivan years?
Thats how long they hybernate for - 32 Earth Years
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Perhaps Shivans have shorter lifespans than humans as they are technically space insects, and while insects have very short lifespans, their number make up for it.
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Perhaps the 32 years of the shivans are just a small nap they take once in a while. like we do when we get tired and neeed to sleep.
That is one way to explain the numbers.
If a small nap takes them 32 years in which time others breed and build ships.......well you get my point.
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If the Shivans reside in an exoskeleton, then I'm thinking of Darth Vader. :lol:
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Hmm you may have a point but im guessing they dont have the cool jedy powers stuff and the lighsabers and stuf. so jedy/darthvader >>>> shivans in exoskeletons
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Hmm you may have a point but im guessing they dont have the cool jedy powers stuff and the lighsabers and stuf. so jedy/darthvader >>>> shivans in exoskeletons
They do have that really cool power beam thing...
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welll errr............yeah they do have it but darth vader can totaly mess up theyr minds and make them wear pink err totous or whatever they are called that balerinas or something wear :D
So darth vader is much more sinister and has a way more sick sence of humour then the Shivans.
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am i the only one who sees a face where that shivan's gun is?
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am i the only one who sees a face where that shivan's gun is?
NO. ;)
I was wondering the exact same thing too. It seems that their personal beam cannons are mounted to the side of their head.
...and considering that Shivans look symmetrical, I'm now wondering if each of them have TWO. :shaking:
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thats it! its the friggin predator! It blowed up cuz it activated its arm band of destruction... oh geeze, no wonder the shivans keep giving us crap, were going about this the wrong way...
send in the Governator!!!! Only he can defeat the shivans in an epic 1 on 1 battle!
Well, either him or Danny Glover, but I prefer the Governator!
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:lol:
Nice - The shivans are Uber-Yautja. That means that the bigger picture referred to by :v: is the Xenomorphs.
And as for Earths fate...It was taken over by Weyland-Yuntai - The Company
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Han-Weyland-Ronald-Yutani thank you very much :lol:
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When did Han and Ronald come into it?
To be honest, the shivans make me think of a cross between the Yautja and Xenomorphs...and before anyone mentions it...I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE PRED-ALIEN
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I just thought of the word, "BOOOM!!!" said in a very silly manner at the same time while I was thinking of an exploding Shivan.
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You mean like on the 60's batman series?
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or like the boomers from gears of war?
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thats it! its the friggin predator! It blowed up cuz it activated its arm band of destruction... oh geeze, no wonder the shivans keep giving us crap, were going about this the wrong way...
send in the Governator!!!! Only he can defeat the shivans in an epic 1 on 1 battle!
Well, either him or Danny Glover, but I prefer the Governator!
Indeed. Our resident Kindergarten Cop /Terminator /super-commando /barbarian will pwn them.
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do we have one around or will we have to call for one?
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Predator or Shivan?
If Shivan, then yes, we have Carl. Unfortunatly he's disappeared into the bowels of HLP Station's duct system near the fusion reactor to hybernate.
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No what Trashman said. he said resident so i thought we might have one lying around somewhere. as for carl will he wake up if poked, sworn at, has food thrown at etc or is he hibernating for good? (just out of curiosity)
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I can see it now. The Shivans board a transport and start herding the passengers into a cargo bay and Schwartzenhoofer leaps from an air duct ready to fight the Shivans in hand to hand combat and screams "GET TO THE LIFE PODS NOW!! ARRRRRR!!"
Shivan body parts start flying every which way and our lovable body builder taunts the Shivans saying "Who is your daddy and what does he do?"
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No what Trashman said. he said resident so i thought we might have one lying around somewhere. as for carl will he wake up if poked, sworn at, has food thrown at etc or is he hibernating for good? (just out of curiosity)
Oh...Right...our resident Guvanator impersonator...No idea
As for Carl, well as far as i know about Shivan Biology, he'll hibernate for 32 years then comback with even bigger teeth. When he does DO NOT try talking to him for about a year.
Shivans are not morning-creatures. They don't like people trying to talk to them after they've just awakened. Last time someone did so, the shivans were so pissed off that they Nuked an entire star system just to tell us to leave them the f*** alone till they'd properly woken up.
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yes but i mean could you (hypothetically) wake him up?
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do shivans breathe oxygen?
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:wtf: No they breathe liquid cheese...
Actually i dont know what they breath. The Hallfight scene never mentions the Shivan atmosphere, and there is no reference anywhere else to what type of atmosphere they breathe. They are known to be able to survive in the vacuum of space though
The better question is "Do Shivans Breathe?
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Why do i do these things:lol:
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i wanna teach my phone stuff too :nod:
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:wtf: No they breathe liquid cheese...
Actually i dont know what they breath. The Hallfight scene never mentions the Shivan atmosphere, and there is no reference anywhere else to what type of atmosphere they breathe. They are known to be able to survive in the vacuum of space though
The better question is "Do Shivans Breathe?
I'm not sure if they breath, but I'm pretty sure there was some sort of atmosphere in their ships. In hallfight, IIRC the marines had skin exposed, and I don't think they would be doing that in a vacuum.
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do shivans breathe oxygen?
In the FS1 script there was an idea for a cutscene (that sadly wasn't thrown in) that would have possibly had Shivans jumping from their ship and floating through space till they reached the Terran ship. Whether they were holding their breath or not is something I don't know. Maybe they didn't throw that in though because the Shivan actors couldn't hold their breath that long... :wtf:
:wtf: No they breathe liquid cheese...
:wtf:
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do shivans breathe oxygen?
No. Or the Shivan Marine wouldn't have been able to ride the Thoth fighter rodeo style!
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That was a Thoth.
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do shivans breathe oxygen?
No. Or the Shivan Marine wouldn't have been able to ride the Seth fighter rodeo style!
I'm willing to bet that they have some kind of self-contained tank built in for these kinds of materials. Biologically, it would need something to break down materials into energy, assuming that it's a cell-based creature.
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Well I'd assume it was a sort of heavy exoskeleton-like insect.
Either that, or it's a sort of cyborg fusion thing that has no normal life processes.
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shivans are wierd
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shivans are wierd
:wakka:
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No Shivans are wired......................like a two year old on an orange juice high.
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Maybe they can hold their breath for a ridiculously long time, like a whale or a turtle.
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Maybe they can hold their breath for a ridiculously long time, like a whale or a turtle.
Or they use Energy (like electricity) for sustaining life.
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Perhaps. Remember the freighter cutscene in FS1 and the little script about the Tombaugh Installation scene in the FSRefBible? Shivans are supposedly capable of living in any kind of environment.
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But they are very poor at dealing with hi-gravitational fields. That's why they don't really land on Terran habitable planets right?
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Well, the only Shivan aims that are canon are to wipe us out. That generally means very little landing. :p
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they live in subspace dont they? the whole war started cuz we let our dogs poop on their grass :nervous: