The Orion is the capital ship of the GTA. Measuring a frightening 2.1 kilometers in length, the cost to build one of these far outweighs the cost of paying the crew of this ship for 3 years. There is no more important symbol of Terran Pride than a ship like the Galatea or the Intrepid cruising past a colonized planet, patrolling the system and ensuring safety. In the course of the 14 year war, very few of these have ever been lost, making the destruction of an Orion a truly horrible defeat.
The Bastion had the most pitiful death.
TENMINUTESESCORTINGITTOAGODDAMNNODETOSEEITBLOWUPBECAUSEOFSOMEF RAKKINGSHIVANJUGGERNAUT!
The FS1 campaign really went out of its way to attach the player to the Galatea. It's the player's first introduction to the huge FreeSpace destroyers, and honestly had the most memorable death of all the destroyers.
I think people don't care about the Psamtik because, let's face it, the player had seen a lot of big things get blown up before in FS2, and they had much more memorable deaths.
True. The GTD Repulse's destruction was, IMO, the most memorable death in FS2 because the player's contribute was significant. It also featured a very cool dialogue.QFT
The Colossus' destruction was memorable, but...IMO it lacked immersion. Why? a) The warship was too far away when the Sathanas jumped in, b) the mission didn't focus on the Colossus and on its battle to hold the Shivans and c) the player's only influence was to destroy ships to turn into true the arrival cue of the Beast first and Sathanas 17 then.
Had the mission been centered on the Colossus and had the Colossus been very close to the main battle area "Their Finest Hour" would have easily owned any other friendly-capship death mission...that's why, ATM, the Galatea and the Repulse are a bit more memorable under most points of view. Also, the player was never based on the Colossus and we don't even know the CO's name, so the way to experience that event turned out to be a bit worse than expected.
PVD Hope :nervous:NON-CANON!!
Fine.
GTD Ignatius :nervous:
PVD Hope :nervous:That one made me all sad. :(
Surely you mean Derelict, not ItDoH?
Surely you mean Derelict, not ItDoH?Derelict. It's a joke, see, cause everyone tries to say Derelict is canon.
No offence i love all campaigns. Its just some of them have that extra something that another might not have. For example one might have a great story but not that much raw battle while the other may have massive battles but a shorter less in depth story. that is all i was attempting to say ! :D
Oh yeah for some reason most campaign focus on the GTVA warships getting blown to pieces.
Why not more shivan destroyers go up in smoke ??
No ElitismTM...:yes:
PVD Hope :nervous:NON-CANON!!
/me smacks Goob
QuoteAs for the Psamtic, well, what was she famous for? Blowing up a damaged corvette?
Come on, show me how can YOU take down a damaged corvette in one shot!
I think Goober was talking about how the PVD Hope...Spoiler:Kamikazes the Hades...in ST:R
I'm sure the PVD Hope featured in a FS1 mission where you had to protect it when it jumps in at 36%, if you protect it, it takes over from you guarding the Beta Aquilae Comms terminal. If it's lost, it's replaced by the PVD Pinnacle.
Its like thinking of the PVD Hope being destroyed by Hades beams before do the attack, it just... it misses something to be epic, there is nothing worse than a failed suicide attack.
Well, if they did spit out their entire compliment, it'd be a BoE.
It's most likely because most of a destroyer's squadrons are away flying other missions, and have only a few reserve wings on board for defense.
Why do these destroyers, when faced with certain death, only luanch 2 or 3 wings instead of every available fight/bomber? They should be pumping out 50 fighters when they are in a do or die situation.I was just thinking about this the other day while playing "Paving the Way".
Why not?In some cases, but not in all cases.
It has been canonically stated that the Krios was attacked while its compliment was away on a mission (in fact, you witness it).
Collussus
The Aquitaine, probably had its wings on other missions in Proving Grounds...though I kinda doubt this one... (Alpha One saved the day anyway, so no problem here). As noted, it was attacked by the SC Urobach while its wings were likely away on mission.
The Beleth had likely used up most of its squadrons assisting the Sathanas. After the destruction of the Ravana, you can assume that most of the fighters you faced came from the Sath or the Beleth.
Its easy with paired Helios.
Or with SSLs, or any other type of bomber-primary.
Well, I ran out of enemy wing names before running out of ship slots :(
Ended up having to go Aries A, Aquarius A :(
I thought he was refering to hostile wings. :nod:
And Aurora isn't a letter of the Greek alphabet... :nervous:
I find naming a hostile wing "Crux" offending since I'm devoted to that contellation. Heh, I prefer blowing hundreds of Scorpio wings but Crux? Hell no. :PYou realize that a Hindu would have serious qualms about playing FreeSpace: The Great War? "Destroy Rama" to them would equate to "Exterminate Baby Jesus" to us.
Has anyone mentioned the Lucifer yet. It's technically a destroyer, and it blows the hell out of any of the other deaths in the game.
Has anyone mentioned the Lucifer yet. It's technically a destroyer, and it blows the hell out of any of the other deaths in the game.
If you have a friend that does no know Freespace, then you it that mission and it will say... OK.. WTF? hahaha
You realize that a Hindu would have serious qualms about playing FreeSpace: The Great War? "Destroy Rama" to them would equate to "Exterminate Baby Jesus" to us.
You realize that a Hindu would have serious qualms about playing FreeSpace: The Great War? "Destroy Rama" to them would equate to "Exterminate Baby Jesus" to us.
"Pilots, we have detected two incoming Kitten warships, the KC Widow, and the KC Orphan. Destroy them immediately!"
Was the Psamtik mentioned?
Was the Psamtik mentioned?
Yeah, as a nonimportant one, since the arrival of the second Sathanas was more improtant to the player.
Was the Psamtik mentioned?
Yeah, as a nonimportant one, since the arrival of the second Sathanas was more improtant to the player.
I was pretty moved as a kid.
Was the Psamtik mentioned?
Yeah, as a nonimportant one, since the arrival of the second Sathanas was more improtant to the player.
I was pretty moved as a kid.
I never had a good feeling when I was with the Vasudans. They were arrogant (Impressive for a Terran etc.) and the briefings were soooo annoying...
All hail TVWP!
I never had a good feeling when I was with the Vasudans. They were arrogant (Impressive for a Terran etc.) and the briefings were soooo annoying...I felt like that too, feeling slightly isolated and kinda alien in the Vasudan part of the campaign. The weird alien music/frog mating calls in the mainhall added to the effect... Also, the fact that most of the Vasudan missions were set in the nebula, against teh 3vil Shivans, made me feel constantly edgy and nervous on the Psamtik.
I never had a good feeling when I was with the Vasudans.
Hard why? I had to use their crappy ships, all with light armor. Plus they died easy and fast. Tho their were alot of them. They do have pritty ships but... they all suck. Screw manuverability when u got heavy weapons and armor. Ares FTW!I liked their ships, they were an interesting change, but dying all the time got old after a while.
Was the Psamtik mentioned?
Yeah, as a nonimportant one, since the arrival of the second Sathanas was more improtant to the player.
I was pretty moved as a kid.
I never had a good feeling when I was with the Vasudans. They were arrogant (Impressive for a Terran etc.) and the briefings were soooo annoying...
All hail TVWP!
Oh, c'mon. Tell me your heart wasn't warmed the first time you heard 'You fight like a Vasudan!'
Was the Psamtik mentioned?
Yeah, as a nonimportant one, since the arrival of the second Sathanas was more improtant to the player.
I was pretty moved as a kid.
I never had a good feeling when I was with the Vasudans. They were arrogant (Impressive for a Terran etc.) and the briefings were soooo annoying...
All hail TVWP!
Oh, c'mon. Tell me your heart wasn't warmed the first time you heard 'You fight like a Vasudan!'
For me, it was an insult. Seriously. I might be racist (in FS), but a race having a rouge superstitious group and a sooooo hierarchic (according to FSWiki) language wasn't equal to humans.
Not much worse, but, let's just say, 0,875 compared to humans.
I respect you a little less now.
Aren't we equal, for God's sake?You are a conquered people, Terrans.
Woot. It's good to know :pAren't we equal, for God's sake?You are a conquered people, Terrans.
(by the way, your earlier comment means that you did (or do) respect me, so I am happy ^^Well, I ain't Vasudan. :P
I respect you a little less now.
Yeah, I felt when I ead back my comment that it didn't express what I wanted to give. I prefer the Vasudan culture much more than I dothe human (after playing STL), but I hate when "they" express that they're more of us. Arenm't we in an alliance? Aren't we equal, for God's sake?
I respect you a little less now.
Yeah, I felt when I ead back my comment that it didn't express what I wanted to give. I prefer the Vasudan culture much more than I dothe human (after playing STL), but I hate when "they" express that they're more of us. Arenm't we in an alliance? Aren't we equal, for God's sake?
Now I respect you more.
In a sense that every wingmate die in a horrible fashion due their stupidity as AI, then yes, they do :lol:
Was the Psamtik mentioned?
Yeah, as a nonimportant one, since the arrival of the second Sathanas was more improtant to the player.
I was pretty moved as a kid.
I never had a good feeling when I was with the Vasudans. They were arrogant (Impressive for a Terran etc.) and the briefings were soooo annoying...
All hail TVWP!
Oh, c'mon. Tell me your heart wasn't warmed the first time you heard 'You fight like a Vasudan!'
For me, it was an insult. Seriously. I might be racist (in FS), but a race having a rouge superstitious group and a sooooo hierarchic (according to FSWiki) language wasn't equal to humans.
Not much worse, but, let's just say, 0,875 compared to humans.
The wingmen don't actually seem all that stupid in general. I don't know where this odd prejudice comes from, except for people not playing on Insane.
The wingmen don't actually seem all that stupid in general. I don't know where this odd prejudice comes from, except for people not playing on Insane.
I don't play on insane for the sake of my sanity, it's not my idea of fun to be raging because of a game :mad: :p
AI wingmen still die on insane. They normally do bad.. thats where the predujice comes come alot.
The zogs are the alien trash of the galaxy(next to the Shivans anyways) who should have been treated as GTVA's pawns. Send the entire zog fleet into the nebula and let none return until all the Shivans are destroyed(good luck with that one). I got so tired of the condecending attitudes of the zogs, I'm glad the psamtik blew up instead of a Terran destroyer.
Go live with the zods if you love them so much.The zogs are the alien trash of the galaxy(next to the Shivans anyways) who should have been treated as GTVA's pawns. Send the entire zog fleet into the nebula and let none return until all the Shivans are destroyed(good luck with that one). I got so tired of the condecending attitudes of the zogs, I'm glad the psamtik blew up instead of a Terran destroyer.
I respect you less now.
Can we ban people for fictional racism? :nervous:
Go live with the zods if you love them so much.The zogs are the alien trash of the galaxy(next to the Shivans anyways) who should have been treated as GTVA's pawns. Send the entire zog fleet into the nebula and let none return until all the Shivans are destroyed(good luck with that one). I got so tired of the condecending attitudes of the zogs, I'm glad the psamtik blew up instead of a Terran destroyer.
I respect you less now.
Can we ban people for fictional racism? :nervous:
Technically there is no real racism, shouldn't it be called ethnicism or something like that. Vasudans are actually a different race as opposed to a different human ethnicity.
Can we ban people for fictional racism? :nervous:
Technically there is no real racism, shouldn't it be called ethnicism or something like that. Vasudans are actually a different race as opposed to a different human ethnicity.
Favorite destroyer death noncanon: Valhalla
Generation? What mod?
PSAMTIK I think.
The Memphis.
:lol:Yeah, GVD Chnum, multi mission.
Apart from the Memphis and Psamtik, are there any other canon Hatshepsut-class destroyers?
Didn't the Chnum get pwnt by the NTF?Yeah.