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Title: Survey: WIP TCs within the FreeSpace Universe...
Post by: Mobius on March 15, 2009, 06:32:12 am
How many TCs(i.e. big mods featuring many new ships, weapons and such) within the FreeSpace Universe are currently in development and might be released very soon? I know about Inferno's mods and Earth Defense...but what about the others?  :)
Title: Re: Survey: WIP TCs within the FreeSpace Universe...
Post by: ShadowGorrath on March 15, 2009, 06:40:59 am
Ancient-Shivan War first release
Title: Re: Survey: WIP TCs within the FreeSpace Universe...
Post by: Mobius on March 15, 2009, 07:45:38 am
Does it count as a TC? How many exclusive models are in there?
Title: Re: Survey: WIP TCs within the FreeSpace Universe...
Post by: ShadowGorrath on March 15, 2009, 12:59:05 pm
You're the one to ask.

And it's not merely models. The ammount of modding, stuff and effort going into ASW make it a TC.
Title: Re: Survey: WIP TCs within the FreeSpace Universe...
Post by: Commander Zane on March 15, 2009, 01:08:38 pm
I honestly don't see any coming out anytime soon, I'm most eager for WCS but every new post I see that appears once a month is merely an "AWSM MOD GUYZ!" comment.
Title: Re: Survey: WIP TCs within the FreeSpace Universe...
Post by: Polpolion on March 15, 2009, 01:13:30 pm
A total-conversion is mutually exclusive with "within the Freespace universe."

You're looking for things like Inferno, BWO, and BP, both of which take place within the Freespace Universe, but both of which feature many new ships as an integral part of the lineup.
Title: Re: Survey: WIP TCs within the FreeSpace Universe...
Post by: Ziame on March 15, 2009, 01:14:52 pm
Terran Vasudan War Project methinks.
Title: Re: Survey: WIP TCs within the FreeSpace Universe...
Post by: Snail on March 15, 2009, 01:18:01 pm
A total-conversion is mutually exclusive with "within the Freespace universe."
Err, no.

A Total-Conversion is a standalone project. There can be standalone projects within the FS universe.
Title: Re: Survey: WIP TCs within the FreeSpace Universe...
Post by: Mobius on March 15, 2009, 01:33:49 pm
You're looking for things like Inferno, BWO, and BP, both of which take place within the Freespace Universe, but both of which feature many new ships as an integral part of the lineup.

As far as I know BP doesn't use exclusive ships.

I was actually refering to dedicated projects featuring exclusive models, textures and music(like Inferno, TVWP and Earth Defense).
Title: Re: Survey: WIP TCs within the FreeSpace Universe...
Post by: Snail on March 15, 2009, 01:46:36 pm
As far as I know BP doesn't use exclusive ships.
WiH has a few. Namely the Solaris.
Title: Re: Survey: WIP TCs within the FreeSpace Universe...
Post by: Commander Zane on March 15, 2009, 01:48:06 pm
That's a ship --Steve-O-- made that pretty much never found its way into a release file unlike the fighters that went with it.
Title: Re: Survey: WIP TCs within the FreeSpace Universe...
Post by: ShadowGorrath on March 15, 2009, 03:04:02 pm
WiH has much more exclusive ships than you think.
Title: Re: Survey: WIP TCs within the FreeSpace Universe...
Post by: Mobius on March 15, 2009, 03:07:36 pm
Yet still, I don't think WiH can(or even should) be classified as a TC.
Title: Re: Survey: WIP TCs within the FreeSpace Universe...
Post by: Hellstryker on March 15, 2009, 03:10:33 pm
A TC cannot technicly be within the FS universe, but TotT will contain many new ships (Mostly Tiigran and Shivan, with some Terran and Vasudan stuff here and there)
Title: Re: Survey: WIP TCs within the FreeSpace Universe...
Post by: Snail on March 15, 2009, 03:19:44 pm
A TC cannot technicly be within the FS universe
What's the definition of a TC then?
Title: Re: Survey: WIP TCs within the FreeSpace Universe...
Post by: Commander Zane on March 15, 2009, 03:33:28 pm
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A total conversion is a mod of an existing game that (usually) replaces almost all of the artistic assets in the original game, and sometimes core aspects of gameplay, in some cases creating a game in a completely different genre from the original.
Title: Re: Survey: WIP TCs within the FreeSpace Universe...
Post by: Jadehawk on March 15, 2009, 04:18:58 pm
A TC cannot technicly be within the FS universe, but TotT will contain many new ships (Mostly Tiigran and Shivan, with some Terran and Vasudan stuff here and there)

This is true! :) While we use plenty of standard Terran and Shivan Ships, much more will be new and especially for the Tiigran-Merisst navy which will be completely new. While we just released the Demo earlier to give fans a taste of what's to come, I can say it's only the tip of the iceberg of what's to come.  ;7
Title: Re: Survey: WIP TCs within the FreeSpace Universe...
Post by: captain-custard on March 15, 2009, 04:34:24 pm
for my self a tc is a total conversion , totaly converted so i take that to mean i wont see any of the models or story lines or links to present past or futurs within the freeespace universe

for me a tc is TBP or fate of the galaxy etc etc as this is truly totaly converted it also has the secondary aspect of not needing the core files and there for is standalone but hey as long as ppl keep making stuff i will be eternaly grateful




except to ppl who write in blue ink ;7

Title: Re: Survey: WIP TCs within the FreeSpace Universe...
Post by: Hellstryker on March 15, 2009, 04:38:28 pm
A TC cannot technicly be within the FS universe

I take that back. Were you to replace all existing ships, then sure I guess you could call it one, but I don't think any of those exist.
Title: Re: Survey: WIP TCs within the FreeSpace Universe...
Post by: Commander Zane on March 15, 2009, 04:43:12 pm
Inferno is by like 96%. :D
Title: Re: Survey: WIP TCs within the FreeSpace Universe...
Post by: BengalTiger on March 15, 2009, 06:11:28 pm
So if Inferno was a 96% total conversion, TotT would be around 40-50%. We're actually going to have to kick like a dozen ships out of the .tbl for the chapter in T-M space, so there will be some conversion to it.


BTW- any part time FREDders out there with too much time on their hands?
Title: Re: Survey: WIP TCs within the FreeSpace Universe...
Post by: Polpolion on March 15, 2009, 06:38:44 pm
A total-conversion is mutually exclusive with "within the Freespace universe."
Err, no.

A Total-Conversion is a standalone project. There can be standalone projects within the FS universe.

What? A total-conversion is a total conversion. If you retain the same universe, then you're not totally converting the game. More like partial conversion. :p
Title: Re: Survey: WIP TCs within the FreeSpace Universe...
Post by: Rhymes on March 15, 2009, 06:49:15 pm

If you retain the same universe, then you're not totally converting the game. More like partial conversion. :p

Read: MOD.  :nod:
Title: Re: Survey: WIP TCs within the FreeSpace Universe...
Post by: captain-custard on March 15, 2009, 07:36:13 pm
Inferno is by like 96%. :D

INFERNO IS A MOD,,,,,,  with a chang to the sourc cod to allow it to have more ships.......A war with old friends, the return of old enemies. But can either be stopped in time to save humanity?

so this is not a total conversion

So if Inferno was a 96% total conversion, TotT would be around 40-50%. We're actually going to have to kick like a dozen ships out of the .tbl for the chapter in T-M space, so there will be some conversion to it.


BTW- any part time FREDders out there with too much time on their hands?


as long as your campaign rsts in the fso universe it is a mod a camaign not a total convrsion


this is not an arguement this is a statment of fact

mobious's question is wrong , in its presentation , he is asking what mods are in wip and not what tc's are in wip


too much blue ink fuddles th mind


Title: Re: Survey: WIP TCs within the FreeSpace Universe...
Post by: Mobius on March 16, 2009, 04:50:19 pm
Inferno is by like 96%. :D

INFERNO IS A MOD,,,,,,  with a chang to the sourc cod to allow it to have more ships.......A war with old friends, the return of old enemies. But can either be stopped in time to save humanity?

so this is not a total conversion

:wtf:

So, according to your logic, TCs aren't supposed to be mods...?
Title: Re: Survey: WIP TCs within the FreeSpace Universe...
Post by: Spoon on March 16, 2009, 06:10:46 pm
TCs are mods
Not all mods are TCs
Title: Re: Survey: WIP TCs within the FreeSpace Universe...
Post by: TopAce on March 19, 2009, 12:38:30 pm
I thought total conversions were the ones like the WCS or TBP when no FreeSpace ships are ever used, because it's a separate universe.

I wouldn't qualify BP as a total conversion, because it's still FreeSpace.
Title: Re: Survey: WIP TCs within the FreeSpace Universe...
Post by: Commander Zane on March 19, 2009, 01:11:23 pm
They still use FreeSpace style interfaces. WCS is working on changing that though.
Title: Re: Survey: WIP TCs within the FreeSpace Universe...
Post by: Darius on March 20, 2009, 03:18:21 am
BP is a campaign using mods from Stratcomm, Aldo and a few others. That's pretty much it :)