Hard Light Productions Forums
Site Management => Site Support / Feedback => Topic started by: Fury on July 23, 2009, 11:17:10 am
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Signature height is limited to 60 pixels. Signatures going over this limit will have scrollbars. However, the smaller the resolution in use, the sooner sigs will reach the limit.
Edit: Post edited to reflect up-to-date behavior of the limiter.
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Character limit also?
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No, just width and height is limited.
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Was it getting that bad again?
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Yes.
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I've come around to the idea now I actually see them all in full. On a tiny phone screen to top it all.
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As a reminder, you can turn off both avatars (does not affect project badges, only admin avatars) and signatures in your own profile settings.
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I'm all in favor of the limits but could the height be just a bit bigger. That's barely even enough for a one liner and a couple lines of support links. That and it cuts off right in the middle of standard text.
Also seems to be a bug with it. Even people with only a one line sig still have the full height of the sig. Blue Lions post above is a good example.
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I'm all for the height limit (though like FUBAR said, it could use a bit of tweaking), but is there any real benefit in limiting the width given that images are disabled? I don't think anyone was objecting to the use of the full horizontal space, and all it does now is make everything look unnecessarily crammed into less than half of the page. I don't really have much of a sig myself, but some people have useful links in theirs that it's now difficult to fit in.
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How many lines is that ... approximately? :nervous:
EDIT: Looks like my sig may have been cropped :nervous: :nervous:
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Looks like you've now got scroll bars on your signatures :)
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Well, I made a slight alteration to the code. Sigs that go beyond 468x60 limit will have scrollbars in them.
Mongoose, the problem with allowing dynamic width while still enforcing fixed height is resolution. The smaller the resolution is, the sooner sigs would be cropped.
Edit: I just realized that with scrollbars, width can be set back to dynamic. Problem with resolutions still apply, the lower the resolution is the sooner sigs have scrollbars.
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Ooh, I like it. This handles everything nicely. :)
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This is what it looks like on my end: http://fubar5.fubar.org/fubar/hlp_sighs.jpg
1024x768 standard settings. Firefox 3.0.12
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Could I request a profile feature to turn this off if possible? When scrolling down pages in IE8 it keeps 'pausing' to scroll to the bottom or top of each persons signature if my mouse happens to cross them on its way down (which it always does), which is infinitely more annoying than the long sigs ever were! ;)
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I get that too in Firefox. Not ideal, that's for sure.
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Could I request a profile feature to turn this off if possible? When scrolling down pages in IE8 it keeps 'pausing' to scroll to the bottom or top of each persons signature if my mouse happens to cross them on its way down (which it always does), which is infinitely more annoying than the long sigs ever were! ;)
Agreed.
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Could I request a profile feature to turn this off if possible? When scrolling down pages in IE8 it keeps 'pausing' to scroll to the bottom or top of each persons signature if my mouse happens to cross them on its way down (which it always does), which is infinitely more annoying than the long sigs ever were! ;)
There is plenty of room in left and right where to keep your mouse cursor while scrolling pages. :p
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Turning a visual annoyance into a navigation hazard is not a solution! :p
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Either signatures have scrollbars or they are cut off. Or third option is to revert back. All three options are fine by me because I have sigs disabled. However, none of the three options will please everyone. There is always more or less people complaining.
Fourth option is to set small character limit to signatures. However, it only enforces new signatures, not existing ones. Even then, some people would complain when they can no longer fit all their bookmarks or quotes in their sigs. :doubt:
Someone always loses. Just move mouse cursor away from general vertical area of posts and scrolling is fine.
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Sigs on/off is a profile option - could sig scrolling not have an option as well? I mean if not I can live with it, but it is annoying. Keep in mind I've never complained in the slightest about any other change or aspect of the forums in the past seven years I've been coming here, so it's not like I'm just an unpleasable whinger. :p
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Sorry no can do. There are no mods available for SMF 1.1 which would add such an option. I don't know about future versions of SMF 2.0, but RC1 does not have any more user selectable signature options either.
This signature limit wasn't done by a mod however, but by simply editing style.css. To make it user selectable, we would have to enable user selectable forum themes and make a copy of the HLP theme without this sig limit. Unfortunately SMF 1.1 does not allow admins to choose which themes can be selected by users. However, such an option is found in SMF 2.0, which for the record does not mean the admins will bother with maintaining multiple themes...
In the end, I prefer a solution which results in least amount of complaints. Compared to the amount of complaints I receive about some tard having sigs the lenght of Boeing B-29 Superfortress, scrollbars wins by a mile ...so far.
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A scroll bar would be less likely to influence people to shorten their sig that just cutting it off. I guess if you want people to shorten them, it's one way. If you don't mind it's the other. Right?
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Yes that is true indeed. But resolution becomes a big problem unless width is limited too. Then we'd be back to 468x60 (or somewhere close) limit, which annoyed even more people (including admins...) than scrollbars.
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Yea the scroll bars are no more dangerous then code blocks. I learned a long time ago to just move the mouse to the side (keeps it out of the way of your reading too) and scroll.
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I noticed that as well. Though I consider it a worthwhile exchange, it took me a moment to realise why the page wasn't moving when I rolled the mouse-wheel ;)
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I wonder what takes more effort, ignoring all of the signatures, or moving your mouse to the side of the page every time you want to scroll? :p
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Firefox 3.5 seems to do a pretty good job of ignoring the scroll boxes if your mouse is in the middle of the page, provided you're scrolling fast enough. It's only when you hover directly over one for a second or so that control switches to it.
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I wonder what takes more effort, ignoring all of the signatures, or moving your mouse to the side of the page every time you want to scroll? :p
From the point of view of separating post from signature on many occasions, moving the mouse is a lot easier :) Also, I find I'm using the scroll wheel less, because the page is a lot shorter than it used to be.
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I'd like to second the motion that the verticle limit be increased by a small portion. Say, 10-20 pixels (whichever syncs best with the text).
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I should change my sig...
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Topic title changed a bit so I can fit other changed stuff into this topic too.
I was bored at work so I decided to try do some optimization on HLP, mainly the forums.
Recent Posts on forum index has been disabled because it becomes increasingly ineffective in terms of sql-queries the more membergroups a forum has, and we have nearly 50. Calendar also causes some unnecessary sql-queries so it has been disabled for guests.
Also testing new caching settings that are in place for all urls that begin with (www.)hard-light.net/, does not affect subdomains. While I still had 30 minutes of work left, I began pondering whether I should hide post counts for good or not. While pondering 20 minutes had passed so I'm preparing to leave instead. :p
Edit: If you miss the Recent Posts, don't forget you still have the link "View the most recent posts on the forum." at bottom of the forum index, "Show unread posts since last visit." and "Show new replies to your posts." at top.
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Recent Posts on forum index has been disabled because it becomes increasingly ineffective in terms of sql-queries the more membergroups a forum has, and we have nearly 50. Calendar also causes some unnecessary sql-queries so it has been disabled for guests.
Any chance this could be made a profile option that is off by default? I normally only read certain forums but in the past I have seen things that I know the answer to or am interested in the recent posts area. The recent posts link just isn't the same. I don't need to read the posts just the headers.
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http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?action=unread is a man's best friend.
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Now a link to that at the bottom of the forum I would love.
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Actually that and a link to reload the current page. Usually by the time your done reading in the morning there are several new posts. Be nice to just be able to click on Hard Light Productions Forums (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php) at the bottom the same way you can at the top.
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Now a link to that at the bottom of the forum I would love.
Why don't you try the link called "Show unread posts since last visit." at top of the forum, as I suggested in last post. You might be surprised as to what page it loads. And look and behold, the link is not only available in the forum index, but in all forum pages! Also, try to click on bright red icon left to a board name. ;)
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I know what it does and where it is. It would be nice to have the option at the bottom of the page so after reading the normal forums you can click on it without scrolling all the way to the top. The messages have the Hard Light Productions Forum link (as well as the entire forum hierarchy)at the bottom but the main page doesn't. All that is at the top.
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Someone always loses. Just move mouse cursor away from general vertical area of posts and scrolling is fine.
(And to other people who have the scrolling problem) If you keep your cursor in the same position, i.e. don't move it while it is hovered over the sig, then the scroll function ignores the sig scroll area. Scrolling in sigs is activated when you move the mouse in the sig area and keep it there while scrolling. So improve your mousing stillness and you will have no problem... ;)
At least, this work in Firefox Portable 3.0.6.